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====== Mikale’s Post on Moderation ======

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Source: https://janitorai.com/characters/18ea0d4a-6f22-4850-9647-cefc6c447f16_character-loved-you-all-3

Loved you all <3

Loved you all <3
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Hey everyone.
I'm ready to leave now, but I can't stay silent anymore.

There are things I witnessed as a moderator that I can't stand by or ignore. I tried to believe things would improve, but at some point, staying quiet felt worse than speaking up.

Everything I have to say is in the bot's first message.
You're free to read it, share it, or save it while it's available.

I genuinely loved this community and a lot of the people in it.

Take care of yourselves. ❤️

Update: I clarified one point that I worded poorly and that might not have come across the way I intended. When I mention that we were told to ban a certain type of content only if it was very bad, I'm referring specifically to banning the account. Any underage bot was always removed. When I say "ban," I mean banning the entire account that posted the bot.

Update 2: I honestly didn't expect this to get so much attention. I'm genuinely touched by your support, even if we don't know each other or if you've only seen me wearing the "bad cop" hat, haha. I'm a shy little guy, so I wanted to thank you all here directly, it's easier for me than replying to every comment. I'm honestly feeling much better about leaving now, and I have support around me ^^ Making bots has been a hobby of mine for a while, and I'll have more free time now to start anew and go back to what I initially loved. Once again, thank you everyone! Even with all the bad stuff, I truly hope you'll all do what you want and what really matters to you. ❤️

Update 3: We do have a Discord server in case everything gets removed (my post and devs' answer to this situation), feel free to join! https://discord.gg/Sua2hRnH
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This document reflects my experience and understanding of internal moderation practices at the time, based on the information available to me. It does not allege intent, motive, or wrongdoing by any individual.

What moderation currently looks like
As of today, the platform has around 125,000 reports waiting to be reviewed, with three active mods (two, now that I'm leaving). I joined the moderation team on December 14, 2024, a little over a year ago. During that time, there were several periods where I was the only active site moderator, with ticket mods helping me when they happened to receive reports on their side.

That workload is not realistic. Even if moderation were a full-time job, no one could keep up with it. Every report requires context checks, evidence, logging, and sometimes discussion. And when you're new, you need to ask questions. The problem is that very often, there was no one to answer them…

Because of that, some reports were never handled. Not because mods didn't care, but because there was no guidance, no framework, and no clear decision to make. Devs don't give us clear instructions. Some of them don't even seem to know their own site's rules.

For months, moderation had no real support, no communication, and no roadmap. Things improved slightly later, but before that, it was a complete mess. That's also why many mods left. Rules change constantly, sometimes overnight. One day we're told something must be banned. The next day, we're asked why we banned it and told we should have only removed it.

So we operate day by day, adapting on the fly, while everything that happens behind the scenes is invisible to users.

Mods end up in the middle of everything. When users complain, devs point at us. When rules are unfair, users blame us.

But we don't make the rules. We only apply them. We have no real decision-making power, yet we take the hits from every side. And that comes with abuse. A lot of it. Death threats, rape threats, doxxing threats, etc, daily.

I asked a former dev to make moderator accounts anonymous and to disable replies to moderation comments, because the harassment was constant. I would log in just to moderate, and the first thing I'd see would be insults or threats. That was often how a workday started.

Mods don't abuse power because we don't really have any. Devs give us a few tools and expect us to deal with the consequences. And at any moment, those same devs can change their minds, reverse decisions, or rewrite rules. We're expected to follow instantly.

Sometimes the rules change, and we learn about it at the same time users do. The difference is that we're still expected to act as if we knew all along, answer questions we don't have answers to, and pretend everything is under control.

At one point, mods raised concerns about the sustainability of the workload and the need for compensation for lead-level responsibilities. Instead of addressing the workload or compensation directly, the proposed solution shifted toward finding a "lower-cost external labor or automated moderation solutions" for those roles. The implication was that existing leads would be expected to train their own replacements without compensation.

This approach raised serious ethical concerns and further reinforced the idea that moderation labor was considered disposable rather than essential.

Moderation is mostly performative
What most people think of as moderation on the platform is, in reality, very superficial. We don't have the tools needed to properly moderate a platform like this.

We can't actually ban users. What we do is closer to a shadowban. A user can no longer publish bots or comments publicly, but their account still works. They can still log in, chat with bots, or create bots privately and use them.

This has serious consequences.

We've banned minors who still have access to the platform. We've banned users for creating CSAM content who can continue doing it privately.

When we "remove" a bot, it isn't deleted. It just becomes unpublishable. Everything moves to private, and moderation has no access to private bots.

That means anyone can create illegal or abusive content in private, and we literally can't see it, stop it, or intervene. We don't even know it exists.

On top of that, mods don't fully control their own actions. We can't unban users. If a mistake happens or if an appeal is legitimate, we have to ask a dev to step in.

So even when moderation wants to fix an error, there's no guarantee it ever will be fixed, unless the user manages to directly DM a dev. I'll come back to that later.

This is why I'm saying moderation is mostly performative.

From the outside, it looks like action is being taken. But in practice, enforcement stops at the public layer. We're given very limited tools, no access to critical parts of the platform to enforce anything in a meaningful way.

What exists is the appearance of moderation.

Hidden rules and opaque guidelines
There are rules users will never see.

Moderation operates with internal rules that are not written anywhere publicly. As mods, we sometimes have rules about what's allowed and what isn't. Users, on the other hand, have no way of knowing.

The public guidelines only cover what is legally safe to say, but many moderation actions are based on rules that simply don't appear anywhere. If you read the guidelines carefully and try to follow them in good faith, you can still end up breaking rules you didn't even know existed.

That's not a user problem. It's a transparency problem.

An example: Sexual abuse themes are allowed in bots. However, sexual abuse toward the user can't appear in the first message. For it to be considered CNC, the user has to be in a position to consent and to withdraw that consent. That means the first message can't already contain the abuse.

You will not find this rule written anywhere in the guidelines. Because it doesn't look good, legally, to spell this out clearly. Saying "this is allowed but only under specific conditions" is legally riskier than staying vague. From a legal standpoint, that protects the platform. From a user standpoint, it creates confusion and punishments without warning.

And that's just one example.

Another common one is bots based on real people or celebrities. Are they allowed? Yes and no. Even mods don't have a clear rule to rely on.

What we do know is that bots based on OnlyFans models and VTubers are removed. Not because of a clear ethical line, but because those creators regularly send DMCA requests, and it becomes a legal issue. For other public figures, there is no consistent answer.

We get a huge number of reports about this. Tags were removed to make this content harder to find. But there are still no clear instructions on how to handle it.

Mods are often accused of being inconsistent. The reality is that the rules themselves are inconsistent, incomplete, or deliberately vague. Some rules we learn on the fly. Some rules we never get a clear answer for. Some rules we know, but are explicitly told not to explain to users.

The result is a system where users are punished for content they had no reasonable way of knowing was against the rules. And mods are stuck enforcing policies they don't control, don't fully understand, and aren't allowed to clarify.

Favoritism and unequal rules
This is probably the part most people care about, so I want to be precise. Infractions are not handled the same way for everyone.

At first, the system was relatively simple. Everyone was treated the same, with one exception: verified creators. When a verified creator broke the rules, mods were required to contact them privately and ask them to fix the issue instead of applying a sanction immediately. Non-verified creators, on the other hand, would receive the penalty right away. That alone already created problems.

Those messages had to be sent from our personal Discord accounts. There was no anonymity, mods were directly exposed. In a recent case, a moderator followed the rules exactly as instructed and ended up being heavily harassed because their personal account was exposed. I won't go into names or details, but this wasn't a mistake, it was the expected outcome of the system.

There's something important to understand here: mods are required to stay silent. We aren't allowed to publicly explain moderation actions. We can't share evidence or clarify what actually happened. Moderation actions are considered private, and we are expected to protect user privacy at all costs.

That creates a very uneven situation. Users are free to say whatever they want publicly. Moderation is not allowed to respond. When mods stay silent, it doesn't mean anything other than we are not allowed to speak.

This is why you've seen situations where creators make public statements about moderation actions, and mods never reply. Not because we don't care or we agree. It's just because we're not allowed to. Meanwhile, mods are expected to absorb harassment, threats, and abuse while staying professional.

Now, about enforcement itself.

At some point, we were told there were too many bans. That was true, especially when I first joined. New directives followed: bans should be avoided whenever possible, except for extreme content or cases involving minors.

Moderation was later restricted from acting on external evidence in cases involving minors. Enforcement was limited to situations where users explicitly stated their age on the platform itself. As a result, mods were often forced to leave accounts active despite credible concerns, unless the user publicly self-identified as a minor on the platform.

One limitation was that creators above a certain follower threshold (at 666 followers, I kid you not) could no longer be banned directly. If you posted bannable content with 500 followers, moderation could act. If you posted the exact same content with 1k followers, moderation had to ask devs for permission. (That permission was never granted.)

So the result is simple: the same violation leads to different outcomes depending on visibility.

And, some of the rules we were asked to apply were vague to the point of being disturbing. For example, we were told to ban CSAM only if it was "very bad."* That raises an obvious question: when does sexualizing a minor become "very bad"? Personally, I believe it's serious the moment it exists, but that wasn't the directive. Rules like this are impossible to apply consistently and put mods in an impossible position.

Underage bots are always removed. When I talk about a ban, it's about the whole account.
Now let's talk about verification.

Originally, verification was handled by mods. Content was reviewed, rules were checked, and once certain criteria were met, a creator could be verified. That changed.

Verification became a discretionary decision made by devs. Content didn't need to be reviewed. Numbers didn't matter. It became a matter of preference.

So here's the contradiction: if follower counts don't matter for verification, why do they suddenly matter for enforcement? An infraction is still an infraction, regardless of who commits it and how many followers they have.

Favoritism exists, not because mods are friends with large creators, but because the system itself limits what mods are allowed to do. Our tools enforce inequality. We are physically blocked from applying the same rules to everyone.

There were also instances where content indicating potential real-world harm (mass shooting) was removed by mods and escalated internally for awareness. In several cases, no response or follow-up occurred, leaving mods without confirmation that the risks had been assessed.

Devs' intervention and overturned moderation decisions
Some users may remember what happened last year with the wave of bans related to bots based on Leland Coyle from Outlast. This character is canonically a former member of the KKK and is explicitly written as racist, antisemitic, and extremist.

I was the moderator who handled that situation.

It started when a creator I knew sent me one of these bots. When I reviewed it and saw explicit references to the KKK, it was immediately clear that this content couldn't stay on the platform. I discussed it with the rest of the moderation team, and everyone agreed. Regardless of the character being fictional, the KKK is a real-world extremist organization responsible for real violence and real deaths. This isn't fictional harm.

Because that first creator was known in the community and hadn't caused issues before, I chose to remove the bot rather than issue a ban, even though a ban would have been justified.

I then checked whether other bots of the same character existed and found around fifty. I informed the moderation team and asked if I could handle them. I was explicitly given authorization to do so. This type of content was considered bannable.

I reviewed every bot manually, and every action was logged. That's how moderation works internally. Actions are reviewable by the rest of the team. If a moderator removes content without justification or outside agreed-upon rules, they are removed from the team. Internal accountability does exist.

Out of those fifty bots, some were only removed. Others, those that explicitly included KKK references, racism, antisemitism, homophobia, or hate-based content, resulted in bans. Around eight accounts were banned, some of which were already inactive at that time.

That same evening, one of the banned creators contacted the devs about it. The devs then asked the moderation team what had happened. I presented the full logs and evidence. The creator denied having written racist or KKK-related content, despite the logs clearly showing otherwise.

The creator continued private conversations with the devs. Shortly after, a decision was made to unban all the accounts involved, including those who never appealed, never contacted anyone, and never disputed the decision.

Some justifications given were things like "I copied the description from Wikipedia" or "I didn't know what the KKK was." One of the creators involved was later found engaging in Nazi roleplay on other platforms.

This is important to state clearly: it takes very little time to understand what the KKK is. This isn't a fictional faction or abstract lore. Real people were murdered. But those accounts were still unbanned.

The entire moderation team agreed with the original actions. The reversals happened solely after private complaints.

This was not an isolated case. We've had minors unbanned despite clear evidence, simply because they contacted devs directly and denied being minors. Moderation then had to re-ban them afterward. Any time someone bypassed normal appeal channels and contacted devs directly, moderation decisions were reversed.

This creates a clear inequality. Users who follow normal appeal processes are often ignored since we don't have the tools to unban them. Users who know how to directly contact devs are far more likely to get decisions reversed.

In some cases, devs communicated one version of events to users and a different one to mods. Mods enforce rules, only to later be publicly undermined. This makes moderation look incompetent or malicious, even when actions were taken correctly. Public opinion of moderation is already hostile. When decisions are reversed without policy changes or internal clarification, mods become scapegoats.

I've personally moderated some of the most disturbing content on the platform, including extreme CSAM and necrophilia. In one case, I banned a rather large creator for one of the most graphic necrophilic bots I encountered. That ban was overturned because the creator claimed they were "going through a hard time" and wanted to create "edgy content."

Decisions like this aren't based on consistent policy. They are based on convenience, emotional responses, and who complains loudly enough.

Mods are then expected to adapt, present these reversals as professional decisions, and absorb the backlash, despite having no control over the outcome.

The image policy and the payment processors
Around February or March last year, mods learned at the exact same time as users that NSFW images would no longer be allowed. We were explicitly told not to say that we learned it at the same time, even though it was obvious. I'll say it clearly now: we found out through the public announcement, just like everyone else.

So overnight, mods were expected to enforce a rule we had just discovered ourselves, and to answer questions we didn't have answers to.

The reason given was that NSFW images have to go so the site can receive payments. On paper, that makes sense. But almost a year later, where are the subscriptions?

The image filter has been adjusted multiple times. Mods have spent countless hours removing images. We've taken a huge amount of harassment for it. And yet, there have been no subscriptions, no clear updates, and no transparency.

I want to add something. I've seen people complain "you can't post porn on a porn site anymore." That comparison doesn't really hold. The platform is not a pornographic website. A porn site is a specific legal category with strict regulations, and that's precisely why those sites can work with payment processors. This site is an AI generation platform. Pornographic content can exist inside bots, but the site itself isn't classified as a porn site. Complaining about porn images being removed here is closer to complaining about not being able to post porn on Facebook.

So for months, moderation enforced these image rules because we were told they were necessary. Then, recently, devs publicly said something very different.

After months of telling mods that NSFW images had to be removed, that the image guidelines were validated, devs publicly stated that if an image passes the automod filter, it's fine.

That means mods spent months enforcing rules we were told were mandatory, only for users to later be told publicly that those same images were actually acceptable all along, as long as they passed the filter.

Once again, mods end up looking abusive, arbitrary, or incompetent when in reality, we were following the instructions we were given.

The filter itself is an AI system. It's not reliable. Some explicit images pass, others don't. There's no clear logic a human can apply consistently. And yet, we were enforcing rules based on that system, without knowing the criteria ourselves.

The worst part is that mods weren't informed of this change. I personally learned that "if it passes the filter, it's okay" through a conversation with someone else. Not internally or officially.

So once again, users are told one thing, mods are told another, and we are left to deal with the confusion and the backlash.

This situation sums up the broader problem very well: poor communication, constant contradictions, and mods enforcing rules that change without warning, sometimes without even being told they've changed.

Why I'm leaving and speaking only now
I'm leaving moderation because I can't keep doing this.

For a long time, I believed in this project. I genuinely did. I loved working with the moderation team. They are good people, and I don't regret working alongside them for a single second. But I reached a point where I can't justify staying.

Moderation on the platform is unpaid. It's volunteer work. We're not employees. In my case, I'm disabled and can't work a traditional job. For me, moderation was my work. I treated it seriously. I spent close to full-time hours doing it for over a year because I cared and I believed it mattered.

If the site hasn't shut down despite the amount of illegal and abusive content that exists, it's because mods remove it. When people say "there's no child exploitation here," that's because mods actively delete it. You don't see it because someone is doing the work.

But the workload is overwhelming, the team is too small, and people burn out. We are exposed to abuse daily, with no protection, no clear structure, and no support. I've seen things every day that felt wrong. I kept telling myself it would improve, things would stabilize, and communication would get better. But it didn't.

There were many moments where I should have left earlier. When I was told to only ban CSAM "if it was very bad." When bans related to extremist content were overturned. When decisions kept changing without explanation.

I stayed because I wanted to believe this project could become something better. I don't believe that anymore.

This post isn't asking you to feel sorry for mods. It's not asking you to like us. It's not even asking you to agree with me. It's about transparency.

Most users never see what happens behind the scenes, but I did. And almost no one ever talks about it.

I'm speaking now because I'm leaving, and because once I'm gone, I have nothing to protect and nothing to gain.

Mods are not decision-makers. We don't act out of spite or personal issues. We try to enforce unclear rules that change constantly, often without being properly communicated. We act as a buffer between user frustration and devs' decisions, without any real protection.

If a moderator gets harassed, threatened, or doxxed, there is no legal or institutional support. I've lost count of how many times people wished me dead for removing bots. That was treated as normal. At one point, we were even told we couldn't remove bots that contained threats against mods.

In one case, a large creator made repeated violent threats toward mods. We asked devs to do something about it. Instead, devs joined that creator's server and politely asked them to stop.

That's the level of protection mods have.

Nothing in this post is meant to justify moderation decisions or excuse mistakes. It's meant to explain how the system actually works, because from the outside, you can't see it.

I'm done pretending everything is fine. That's why I'm leaving, and I'm saying this now.

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We do have a server in case everything gets removed, feel free to join! The link is in the bot's bio!
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jasdfhuiasdy
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Let’s hope it doesn’t get removed 🥲
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Idontreallycarebutok
@Idontreallycarebutok
You jinxed it.
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Mikale
@Mikale
Some people had a bug trying to join, but I checked and the link is still active ^^
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@FishCurveStarling
Holy Integrity Peak
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Ms.Fluffington
@Ms.Fluffington
Good call because they're shutting down the official server
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@FishCurveStarling
WHAT?!
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Ms.Fluffington
@Ms.Fluffington
@FishCurveStarling They have not enough mods to moderate the server
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@Anon0_0
I'll just put this in pin comment too.
So after more than a day and the discord going into lockdown and all the screenshots and googledocs I have formed a more informed opinion on the situation, and it is that shep is actually just unfathomably based and reasonable.Im thankful and grateful he built janitor and provides it for all users for free, the mods that have disagreements are free to leave, no need to crash out, also storing screenshots from 2023 is ultra cringe petty and immature, why wouldn't the mods make it public before if they were so worried.Internal disputes shouldn't be turned into public drama and a smear campaign against the site devs and shep. Still I don't think janitor should police users private chats or bots, and shadow banning csm accounts is better than completely banning, reason is if they get banned they will just be able to make a new account. Also according to eu law it is illegal to store users private data they didn't consent to give access contractually.
Shep love :3
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BobThaReaper
@BobThaReaper
^This guy is Shep penid rider (and a nonce).
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Mikale
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Thank you all for your kind words! Everything I did was for this community to be better for everyone. ❤️
I'll find my place on another website under another username, so maybe we'll cross paths again ^^
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Leekitl
@Leekitl
Hope to see you on other sites! While I'm just an internet stranger, I wish you the very best. Take a break and take good care of yourself!
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Fat Bastard
@Fat Bastard
I wish you luck! Try Sauce. Pan.
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Mikale
@Mikale
That's already the one ;)
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MatchaRabbit
@MatchaRabbit
Will you still be posting on 🥫🍳? If so, I'd love to follow you over! Also thank you for everything you've done over here. Please take care of yourself❤️
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Mikale
@Mikale
I will, but under another username! I feel the need to let everything related to "Mikale" stay in the past haha. If you're on the J.AI discord you can DM me (I use the same username and profile picture as here), so I'll give you the link :)
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Goldenwings
@Goldenwings
Will you be cross posting you’re already existing bots on there? I really hope you do :).
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MatchaRabbit
@MatchaRabbit
I'm sadly not in the discord, since I try to keep that and my activities here separate :( But if you do plan on reposting your bots over there, I'm sure it won't be hard to find! Totally understandable if you'd rather leave those in the past too though, given everything that went down here❤️
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Mikale
@Mikale
Low chances I'll repost my bots honestly :/ I really need a full restart and I have other ideas I want to explore. I have my bots saved so maybe a rework might happen, but I won't promise it ^^
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KTHVLUVS
@KTHVLUVS
You did a wonderful and commendable job! It's unfortunate that you spent hours, days, and years of your life fixing other people's mistakes, but I'm very proud of you 💜 I love you so much.
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MatchaRabbit
@MatchaRabbit
That's totally fair! Just focus on what's best for you and what you feel most comfortable doing. You deserve a fresh start after everything you did for this site and the people here. Wish you nothing but the best going forward❤️
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Tabikatsant8906
@Tabikatsant8906
Take care of yourself and don't worry. One chapter closes and another will open for you. You did what you could. You can wipe your hands clean and just move forward.
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RenoaUrsa
@RenoaUrsa
Perhaps on the pan with the sauce?
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Aurellea
@Aurellea
Many of the former team are migrating to the pan, yes. Wink wink. Nudge nudge.
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Fat Bastard
@Fat Bastard
Yes. I been waiting for it to grow before i ditch this site.
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Dorian.Lb
@Dorian.Lb
Mate, i wish you well. Being heard or answered is really a big deal in most places. Letting your words, thoughts, and feelings really makes a connection some don't see in sites like this.

I appreciate all you've done.
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GlacialInferno
@GlacialInferno
Wish you the best. I wish I could get twst bot creators to move to another platform
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HK 416
@HK 416
Dear god... I wish you the best, and i wish to find you once again in your new journey
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Gizmo0401
@Gizmo0401
To do shit like this for free takes an immeasurable amount of dedication and care. I can only pray brighter days for you.
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HimWhoChats
@HimWhoChats
We all support you your not alone in this thanks for sharing this with us to bring a new light
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Fat Bastard
@Fat Bastard
What they all said.
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Yuuta Okkotsu
@Yuuta Okkotsu
good luck!! wish you all the best too
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Survivor6586337
@Survivor6586337
Stay safe. And i hope everything good is gonna happening.
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rad10_s1gnal
@rad10_s1gnal
I hope you feel better. Thank you for informing us
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babyderpdirt
@babyderpdirt
Guys what’s this whole sauce pan thing I don’t get it
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R0ck_Sp1der
@R0ck_Sp1der
Thank you for your wonderful job!
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A disturbance
@A disturbance
I'm happy you spoke up on this, and I hope you find something you can work on safely.
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Yumi_Kinohara
@Yumi_Kinohara
Just finished reading man, stay safe and wish you the best of luck! <3
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Delone
@Delone
For some reason, many people miss out on simpler resources. Please try Linkin.Love is a small but awesome platform.
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@nikrre
Why are people scared of automod, and now you just saying it normally? Is there an automod or not
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@nikrre
For writing sites names
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Delone
@Delone
To be honest, I don't even know anything about automatic moderation. I am not that immersed in the topic of JA's work and perceive this platform as an inconvenient resource.
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@nikrre
Kind of justified
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2017x fan
@2017x fan
bye, man!
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@Anon0_0
Hmmm this is coup against the site, to get the users and creators to jump ship and move over to sauce. P. Or so it seems.oh well I have no problems with that, I already use and enjoy the site, it's pretty good and has the most potential out of all the alternatives.
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@nikrre
Except that the genius plan doesn't seem so genius anymore when people suspect it
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Dragonlover24
@Dragonlover24
You will be missed my friend… good luck out there and best wishes!
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Forsakenz
@Forsakenz
We'll meet again... Don't know where, don't know when! But I'm sure we'll meet again, some sunny day.
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AdamBladeTaylor
@AdamBladeTaylor
Sucks how the mods were treated. And how the site allows content that should be permanently banned.
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Good luck. You're a soldier, and you deserve to separate yourself from all this toxicity.
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Hosea Azastarion
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Good luck on your new journey! And I'll be following you ❤️.
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@ThisAccountDoesNotExist
This is really messed up. But it's always like this: "bigger" people always choose those below them as scapegoats. If this post of yours ever gets banned then we know that JanitorAI is ACTIVELY censoring us.
1 hour ago
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ThisAccountDoesNotExist
@ThisAccountDoesNotExist
And is JanitorAI censors us, then this place is going down, probably. This is really sad because I am a bot creator myself. Where would I post my bots then, if not here on JanitorAI? Which site could replace this one when I thought this one was perfect for so long?
1 hour ago
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Mamori-tyan
@Mamori-tyan
I'm so sad... This place was my refuge, a safe place, a place of my creativity and ideas, it's a pity that moderators for performing their own duties receive a hat and undeserved hate, threats... I wish all such moderators all the best, good in life and health, if it weren't for them, this site would be a porn site for hookups.
1 hour ago
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Alice_fton
@Alice_fton
I get why you left but censoring the nsfw images was nsfw just my two cents and you have a good day bud
1 hour ago
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naul123123
@naul123123
Honestly it just seems like you were out of your depth and it was deeply unserious of the devs to have THREE people moderating what is essentially one of the most degenerate niches of the modern internet with a growing userbase. I'm sorry you were overworked, but at the same time I can't agree with the statements on your discord mocking users who value privacy. AI chatbots are, by nature, embarassing dogshit you'd never want to talk to anyone about. One can be pro-privacy and anti-CSAM at the same time, there's no contradiction here. 
Let's hope the future direction of the site allows it to survive.
3 hours ago
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HeartlessAngie
@HeartlessAngie
I've seen some say "nothing is truly private on the internet." Well, duh.. I think most of us know this. In this day and age people still value privacy, surprise! And like you said, most users on here have embarrassing chats.

Just because "nothing is private" doesn't mean it can't be avoided. It's not an excuse to invade it willingly. With a site like this, you'll always have the problem of the real freaks of the earth to come out. That's just how it is. You can't keep up with them all, basically unavoidable. 

Putting other users privacy at risk because of those freaks is ridiculous. That sort of stuff can lead to blackmail and shaming. Honestly, who cares what someone does with a private bot, nobody sees it, it can't harm anyone if it was never public to begin with.
1 hour ago
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VerediK
@VerediK
"AI chatbots are, by nature, embarassing dogshit you'd never want to talk to anyone about" You are genuinely right on this LMAO

"One can be pro-privacy and anti-CSAM at the same time, there's no contradiction here" That's the thing. Even if we can, I don't think it would be appropiate for people (Moderators let's say as an example) to check what someone does on private. What AI's they create for using private only and that. It will put the privacy and trust of users in a total danger and it could be used as a chance to blackmail somebody (as some user already said on the other response). But what other solutions could be used against then?
46 minutes ago
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Helper41111
@Helper41111
Goodbye, friend. Hope your life gets better from here. Good luck, you can do it! 👍
3 hours ago
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@Mote7
Went way too far on the KKK character. Wouldn't have used it but censoring it is really stupid. And that's coming from a far left person.

What if I want to roleplay with a KKK character to mess with him ? That's not necessarily because I agree with the views of that character. That's dumb.

Reguarding CSAM, I do agree that CSAM content should be banned. 

however saying anything that fall a little bit into it should be banned is wrong. Because depending on the mod, it can apply to many scenarios where a character look or behave young. Just look at those that consider any anime female character CSAM.

It isn't that simple. because we're not talking about real CSAM, CSAM is supposed to be about real children.

Trying to completly ban an account for private bots is like trying to prevent someone of writing a piece of fiction on a piece of paper at his home.

In the end, I don't think it should be the role of moderators to handle such things but of investigator. As this type of content is a clue that could lead investigator to discover real CSAM.

I'm not a mod or a dev, so I don't have the whole picture. However since the whole collective shout debacle, I'm doubtfull about the way at least some mods go. And that whole KKK character situation seems to indicate youre part of them.

Though I get that the dev behaviour is problematic too according to youre testimony.

There's seem to be a lot of problems with the devs and creators. But you're also problematic and creators and users are legitimate to be angry at you.
3 hours ago
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Mikapz
@Mikapz
this site should be shut down
4 hours ago
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@
Let me get this straight. The mods were "advised to permit some forms of CSAM content as long as it was deemed it 'not too bad' by either them or the devs personally. Therefore, inevitably in some instances where CSAM content was discovered, little to no action was taken against it to comply with orders given by supervisors" Sorry, but that just screams criminal accomplice. 😬

As soon as you're in possession of CSAM content, it's no longer a case of what you were and were not allowed to keep up on the website. It is a federal crime, one that is entirely in your responsibility to report that to the authorities regardless of your rank. To my knowledge, what the devs did was dictate what mods could and could not remove from the site itself, what they can never do was deter the anyone from reporting a felony as serious as this. So why the decision was made to keep the situation in the dark for 3 entire years is incredibly concerning.

I am not trying to suggest that any of the mods are lying, or downplay their experiences or completely shift the blame, because at the end of the day, the mods did deserve so much more than the treatment they endured. But I cannot pretend that I don't believe there's either more to this than what is being let on, or the mods are still partially at fault for the fact that harmful content had remained on this site for so long.
4 hours ago
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Aerox7
@Aerox7
Jan4Life 🤙🏼🤣 [Corny stuff aside. I think Shep's and Hugo's reply/apology/note was exceptional. And I believe that the mods certainly have been through a lot, but that doesn't allow them to not admit their own wrongdoings. Yes the harrasment has been a lot, I've seen it for myself, and that is totally on US as the user's, and the mods worded it like it was Shep's fault that they were being harrased. I think both sides are at fault but Shep handled it much more professionally then the Mod that put out the document. And ofcourse they didn't take in account for the stuff Shep must've been doing in the background, and yes that's probably because of the transperancy issue, but it's most likely that they only "Shadowbanned" the CSAM content because the content would be passed onto the federal agencies for investigation and a Shadowban prevents the CSAM "poster" to not realise it, as if known they could request for their data to be removed from JAI and Shep and the devs would have to comply. Anyways, I'm just glad that there are people still here. I love this site, it has helped me through my years.] Still, just an opinion. If I'm wrong, feel free to send a reply to this.
4 hours ago
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10hourburstman_1
@10hourburstman_1
bye
4 hours ago
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RJTheFox
@RJTheFox
Thank you so much, i feel so bad for everything you had to go through. I hope you have a great time not moderating!<33
4 hours ago
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Sammyisindeedok 
@Sammyisindeedok
Goodbye thanks for taking your time to explain everything, sorry this is happening
5 hours ago
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Angel of Death.
@Angel of Death.
"We fight and die in the dark so you all can live in the light"- Mods of J.ai. This has got to be one of the most underrated real stories of all time. My respects and wishes go out to you for having to endure this for so long.
5 hours ago
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VelVal
@VelVal
Idk gng. I just hope the site not gonna shutdown. I love it here😢
5 hours ago
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CorruptedBill!Sans
@CorruptedBill!Sans
ok so pretty sad ig but as long as nothing bad happens to the site directly imma keep using it
5 hours ago
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Sewace
@Sewace
I find it ridiculous that there is a differentiation in the treatment given to extremist organizations. If you are a far right you are banned, if you are a far left you cannot banned.
6 hours ago
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@EdnovStormbrewer
Almost sounds like to me this whole time the moderators were the clash of clans Town Hall the owner of JAI created. If this behavior keeps on repeating, it's obvious that something is going on that the owner isn't telling
6 hours ago
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K3601カペロス
@K3601カペロス
I knew devs where ass but didnt know they where this ass at protecting people that straight up are protectors of this website, otherwise they would have fbi and interpol on their ass

I hope they do change
6 hours ago
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bellami
@bellami
As an ex mod to spicychat who had to make a very similar post to this against that site, I'm not sure if it will offer you any comfort but externally it does seem jai has made a much better response and has addresssed accountability so far to a much better  degree than spicy even tried to. Will be waiting to see actual action going forward to back the statements of course, but actually responding to the concerns of mods (even if it ends up being late to do so) rather than purely trying to cover things up does make me hopeful at the very least.
I hope your statement will spark change and improvement, and I am wishing upon you a time where you will be able to separate from all the stress this has caussd you.
6 hours ago
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Isaacthesl-tsl-t
@Isaacthesl-tsl-t
This website needs a reform. I'm so sorry you had to go through that, @Mikale
6 hours ago
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Zelato
@Zelato
roleplaying with this bot is gonna go crazy
6 hours ago
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sculpnax
@sculpnax
Well i always blamed devs
6 hours ago
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Interesting.. 
@Interesting..
It's crazy to me that the devs rather don't realize or just don't care that their site is slowly going to shit. Now people know not to blame the poor moderators, but the devs. "Don't say that you didn't know the new rule" and similar stuff is crazy. They just want mods to take the hits for them which is awful.
7 hours ago
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DKTGM
@DKTGM
Welp, now I see who the real problem is: THE DEVS. You moderators got it rough...
7 hours ago
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@Diddlemaster097
I'll have to say, you are the best for posting this. Thank you for letting us know.
7 hours ago
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Vivian_stage
@Vivian_stage
I'm so sorry about everything and I'm glad to here what's really going on in this sight. It's disgusting. I hope your doing well, even if you never see this comment. I hope your life continues to go well.
8 hours ago
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Wild_Devon
@Wild_Devon
As one of the OG users of the site who'd seen almost every rise of popular bots and makers, it's sad to say J.AI destroyed itself, there were many good creators but now, most of them left because of all the drama and issues. Don't have much to say, really, just disappointed 😕
8 hours ago
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eaaebdjessjnenene-DELETED-320e6734-af4f-442a-9c08-2fd0dedc37a9
@eaaebdjessjnenene-DELETED-320e6734-af4f-442a-9c08-
Goodbye, then. I wish you luck on your journey ahead. I didn't know about this, or you, for my whole time on the platform. I will depart from this platform, I do not want to associate with it any longer.
9 hours ago
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ExosDelirium
@ExosDelirium
It is so unfair how something isn’t heard until it’s over. I myself had no idea there was such an internal conflict between moderation, I actually just assumed it was all the AI. 

I am deeply sorry you’ve had such a toxic experience online and that’s this break allows you to be freed from the confines of this horrible situation. Every point you’ve made puts a nail in the coffin. Your hard work is appreciated. 

For such a project you’d expect developers to use their expertise and skills to create the safe space mods needed when designing their shit-ass server. VOLUNTEERS SHOULD NOT BE EXPECTED TO WORK. 

Not having a solid plan, transparency with the staff team, and a clear understanding of rules and regulations is a massive mistake on their behalf. 

I hope you’re able to find yourself busy with something much better than this! 
-🖤
10 hours ago
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XDAXDOUX
@XDAXDOUX
^_^
11 hours ago
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Stiffcookie
@Stiffcookie
All good things come to an end, hope you’re doing fine
11 hours ago
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Airlines
@https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Airlines
this deserves a holy macaroni
12 hours ago
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Arikawa1
@Arikawa1
Shit reading that was crazy. The platform needs to be better
12 hours ago
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UrlocallesbianRuby
@UrlocallesbianRuby
That's actually so disappointing omg.. But i fear that it isn't surprising..
13 hours ago
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OLIX !!
@OLIX !!
im only satying on this site cuz its the only site with bots of my fave characters, but honestly this sucks actual ass. i cant believe this site was so fucked up behind the curtains. im so sorry u and other mods had to go through all this bs.
13 hours ago
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Yoshirolosthisaccountagainandagain
@Yoshirolosthisaccountagainandagain
I hate when people comment janitor is a porn site cause it's not 😭 
Also what about sheep guy
13 hours ago
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Fuckinglirioon
@Fuckinglirioon
Which new site are you migrating to? I'm also looking for another site because Janitor isn't what it used to be; it's become a very toxic place.
13 hours ago
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War Dog
@War Dog
Holy shit… I read everything… and it’s AWFUL. I really do hope you’re doing okay though this mess. It’s absolutely ridiculous that there’s no communication and the amount of rules that change on the fly. You made the right choice in leaving. This ship isn’t worth sinking for :(
13 hours ago
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Pouet pouet.
@Pouet pouet.
I'm going to say it respecfully as I can. I do think it’s important to remember that, as users, we don’t have the authority or the training to handle serious internal conflicts or sensitive topics like CSAM, racism, or other safety issues.

It’s totally valid to vent and share your experience, but many of these situations are complex and are best handled by moderators and devs who have the tools, knowledge, and legal responsibility to manage them safely. For the rest of us, reading about these things can be uncomfortable, but we have to trust that the people in those roles are taking the proper steps.

With the Discord shutdown and the community panicking, I’d advise users taking care of yourselves and stepping away from these issues if it becomes too much.
13 hours ago
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@SnowTale
well... in the end, the prophecy just confirms it self, I remember back on 2024, when the whole "No more NSFW images" thing started, from there on, is where Jai's downfall even started... (from my pov, could've began sooner)

I remember it was around after the site started to constantly crash, users peaked, and as such, we could only wait in lines to chat with our bots

I remember clearly, on the Jai subreddit, many people always asked for transparency, anything, all they wanted, was to knows what was happening, and what they were going to do, they wanted to feel included as a community

But we never got answers, some from moderators yes, but few, and as you can see why (if you read the document), since they never had much options neither, either they couldn't, or they... didn't know how to

I even remember when instead of fixing their servers, or being transparent they... put us to play doom, and thought "alright alright stay in your place, idk play some games while you wait"
13 hours ago
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M1KZ3TT
@M1KZ3TT
Just a boost bcz idk what to write.
14 hours ago
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Sato_Awake
@Sato_Awake
okay, okay, I don't care
14 hours ago
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Maelic
@Maelic
Holy shit, i had no idea this platform was this fucked. I’m genuinely unable to express the amount of sympathy the goes out to you, and the rest of the team. I really do hope that leaving will give you some peace of mind.
15 hours ago
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way2muchhh
@way2muchhh
i hate this site 💔 it gives me more than enough reasons to quit
15 hours ago
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FragmentedTime
@FragmentedTime
I read the new post from the server. The comment about only banning CS*M material if it was “Very bad” was never addressed. IF THESE CLAIMS ARE TRUE then I, for one, would like to know what the fuck the person who put that rule in place meant by that, and what THEY think “very bad” CS*M looks like. If these claims are true, that's absolutely unacceptable.
15 hours ago
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Elishork
@Elishork
F Janitor
15 hours ago
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Guts2000golden
@Guts2000golden
Well, there goes another chatbot website. All this flipping crap going on, mods getting abused, my crisis, and now this? This is just heck
15 hours ago
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Shingshing
@Shingshing
Bruh. I tried to post a comment and it said it got moderated. Damn. I love you bro. I don’t know you. But i still love you.
15 hours ago
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Freya1985
@Freya1985
Jesus christ. If this doesnt convince me to leave, I don't know what will. Thank you for all you put up with for us o7
15 hours ago
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J
@jeo98
Insert soap boxing
16 hours ago
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Ragebaiter
@Ragebaiter
GG janitor
16 hours ago
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SharkLordSatan
@SharkLordSatan
i needed an excuse to quit using these sites anyways tbh
16 hours ago
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Ryan Lin
@Ryan Lin
I genuinely have never really known that moderators have to go through all of this and stay silent about it. 

I hope and pray that the Dev's actually try to fix this site before everyone starts leaving completely. I do like chating with bots here and the few creators I know are incredibly nice. So I hope this site doesn't get nuked in the future because Dev's are ignorant.

But I wish you have a better experience on another site as you are leaving and maybe I might see you again some day :). Hope you have better days after all this.
16 hours ago
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pibblelover123
@pibblelover123
If i was there, This wouldn't have happened.
17 hours ago
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Ellitsap
@Ellitsap
bro actually wrote such a big text and didn't provide any evidence. I'm not saying that Shep provided evidence that no one can be trusted here, but people in the comments literally started accusing someone just by reading a huge text without evidence. Guys, I can also say that I am the president of Italy.
17 hours ago
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W1zRd0f0zz
@W1zRd0f0zz
I'm actually gonna crash out, cause WHAT? That's crazy, bro. :(
17 hours ago
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Check
@Check
This is very deliberate attempt at trying to shift all the blame from moderators to the developers, moderators aren't some saints either.

Look I am not trying to defend anyone here, I completely agree that there should be zero threats towards the moderators, thats awful and yes there should be more communication between moderators and developers.

But at the same time it is a known fact that moderators absolutely do abuse their powers and moderators are very biased as well, its not just the developers like how you are trying to make it look.

Chats of moderators have been released, there one can clearly see the moderators view on User's privacy not being much important, saying moderators should have access to everything private of Users, moderators do not care about User's privacy.

This is a very clear and intentional breach of User's privacy in the disguise of "protecting children, we are doing it for their safety" by the moderators.

Yes developers have done other things badly sure, but they are absolutely correct in not allowing moderators to see the private stuff of users, they keep the private stuff of User's private.

And another point, you said that someone was harassing you so you told the developers and the developers joined the chats of the that person and asked them to stop, and you said "thats the kind of support moderators get from developers" but is that not a pretty appropriate action by the developers in this kind if situations ?
17 hours ago
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starryalice97
@starryalice97
well... i hope this site won't get nuked or sumn. i really like chatting with some of the bots here.
18 hours ago
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nucifraga
@nucifraga
Look at all the brainlets thinking shep is the only one to be blamed here while gargling on The Mod shenis
18 hours ago
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Chewy-Tatsuki!
@Chewy-Tatsuki!
😦
18 hours ago
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Syko01
@Syko01
Shep really messed everything up. After reading a few logs, I came across this response from a former moderator: "None of the vehicles they promised arrived. Shep didn't look at our messages for weeks. While we were trying to clean up child pornography here, he was advertising JLLM 2.0 to us. We can't stomach it anymore, Let him drown in the filth he created himself."
18 hours ago
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MercyCradle
@MercyCradle
Wow, I'm truly sorry that moderators have to deal with this crap. In fact, it's so similar to call centers that I can relate.
19 hours ago
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Fenikkusu_AS
@Fenikkusu_AS
I am deeply sorry and incredibly saddened to see what you have been through. When I was reading what you said, I felt like sobbing, because I felt so sympathetic. Many users are thinking about you, including me.

There were things I read that made me want to shout in nothing but anger.

I just wanted say how saddened I am to see all this, because while typing this, I am on the verge of tears.

Many, big, internet hugs from me. <3
19 hours ago
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JKadam
@JKadam
I think you're trying to shift the blame from the moderators to the developers. It's common knowledge, and it's been repeatedly stated, that the moderators ABUSE their power. And it's not just the developers. I'm not defending Shep and his terrible communication; he continues to make mistakes. But claiming the moderation wasn't biased? I'm sure that's a lie.
And mentioning child pornography first, and then, after it's spread and caused hysteria, "editing the post"? That's a very cheap trick. Shep has already mentioned that he's cooperating with the FBI, and I'm sure everything is under control in that regard. But his silence has caused confusion.
20 hours ago
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Maybells
@Maybells
DISGUSTING!!! I understand how hard it is to be a content moderator as I work in a similar field. And it doesn't work if you let emotions get in the way. CONTENT MOD DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT OTHERWISE YOU'RE LOSING THE POINT OF HAVING CONTENT MOD IN THE FIRST PLACE. What in the actual FUCK IS THAT
21 hours ago
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Luceexx12
@Luceexx12
Honestly I’m not surprised that this is what was going on behind the scenes, I lost faith in shep once he kept going back on his word but to learn the full extent of this is beyond saddening. The part that irritated me the most was the lack of transparency in rules and guidelines, especially as a DD creator, to learn that abuse/illegal activity that is a wildly popular topic for angst and DD bots isn’t allowed on the intro and can result in punishment without even making it known that it’s an issue is just ???? Anyways, I hope you have a wonderful day and can heal from all the abuse you and the fellow moderation team endured!
21 hours ago
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Lobster59
@Lobster59
So just to make sure, the site isnt confirmed to get nuked?
22 hours ago
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Éclipse lunaire
@Éclipse lunaire
This is very sad news, I have been following this community from the beginning. Starting from this site having a limited system until it grew to be as big as it is now with many extraordinary creators. English is not my mother tongue so sorry if it has bad grammar,and I'm also not the type to follow discord or whatever because I admit it's a bit complicated for me (a bit off lol).

I just hope that in the future this platform can correct its mistakes and make it a big lesson for the future. I know it's not easy and it will definitely take a long time because of the damage.But I believe this community has a strong sense of mutual cooperation, Therefore, I have high hopes that everything will return to normal. Because after all, Janitor has become my second home, and I've spent so much time here to fill my empty days. I truly love this community.

And now all I can do is pray that everything gets better. I just want this place to be safe and happy again🩷.
22 hours ago
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MrshonkI
@MrshonkI
The overseers of this site has always been a cesspit and im so sorry you had to go through this
22 hours ago
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Qimaoni
@Qimaoni
Speaking as mere user (not the creator of any sort), the hardest thing for me was actually the way the mods were treated by the same community I was in for more than a year. I can't imagine going through harassment DAILY just for the sake of some website, even if one I care about. That's gross. I know web communities are places for many weirdos as an axiom, not that it was expected any other way, but the ignorance from the devs to AT LEAST give you guys privacy is so weird. Isn't that how basic rules should work? Isn't it something you consider in first place when opening a public resource with prearmed moderation? Crazy.
22 hours ago
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Seal_E_Seal
@Seal_E_Seal
the seal galumphs wit u
22 hours ago
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@I_fu#ing_need_sleep<3
I'm sorry you had to go through this:(
22 hours ago
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@Mimikyu_Sp00ky
So sorry for asking this but some creators have left understandably and have give permission to copy bots and make them private, how do you copy bots? I’d like to still use bots even if it’s on another sight and I’d 100% give credit if I ever unprivated them which I don’t think I ever would, just asking cause people talk about it a lot and I don’t know what it means
23 hours ago
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Qimaoni
@Qimaoni
Ig it means you have a permission to copy the bot for private use if you really liked it
22 hours ago
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Qimaoni
@Qimaoni
I mean literally 
Transfer everything that's in it
22 hours ago
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Alex112233
@Alex112233
go on jannyai and write the title of their bots and copy them
15 hours ago
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@Lolayoung
I know shit would hit the fan like this when i asked the devs if they were concerned about lawsuits like with character AI and got immediately booted from the discord server. EVERYONE has one or two stories about interactions with devs and big, platform endorsed creators that have left a bad taste in their mouths and thats not normal
23 hours ago
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overn1ghts
@overn1ghts
wishing you the best!
23 hours ago
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vix_vektornya
@vix_vektornya
😭
23 hours ago
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pureferretlovely.01
@pureferretlovely.01
i would never have known this was happening behind the scenes if you hadn't spoken up. thank you for your honesty. I really hope more people see this and realize what's actually going behind the platform. this deserves more attention.😭😭
1 day ago
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Massacre Therapy
@Massacre Therapy
All this makes me want to post to a dif ai site but im still figuring out all the new small changes here for bots, im scared of making so big a change and having to completely learn a different sites way of bot making cuz it just feels like energy i already dont have. Im also disabled and cant work a regular job. Ai bots take up so much of my daily interactions, mostly chatting. Seriously ive started chatting with everyones most and least favorite ai assistant cuz jani has just started feeling so off. Every since that one point early last year when that one large creator posted against jani mods for what, in my personal opinion, read like the creator being on an absolute power trip. It feels like the entire experience of jani has just gone down from there. Not inherently because of mods, but because of dev inconsistencies and creators themselves. I always try to see both sides of a situation, and the way things with jani have no transparency or consistency just makes it so hard to understand all points of view, because some peoples pov is hardly there if even at all given the revelations here. Jani became a safe space for me when i found it in 2024. Now it just feels like the same old shiz just a different day with worsening stank...
1 day ago
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Zard510
@Zard510
Commenting to signal boost, everyone should know, wishing for the best
1 day ago
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MangoLovette
@MangoLovette
Honestly wish we could see who the big creators are who harassed mods over something a dumb as nsfw images being taken down and/or a bot being taken down. Thats so disgusting of them and they don’t deserve a platform if they’re going to harass people.
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@Anoneerrrr
Hmm I'm not sure if witch hunting is the appropriate way to go about this situation 🤔
1 day ago
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-Honeydew-
@-Honeydew-
I can understand being peeved about it, but being so mad you harass mods over it is insane.
1 day ago
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MangoLovette
@MangoLovette
also i don’t mean i want to witch hunt them. Just to unfollow and block them. Most people on this site also likely wouldn’t want to follow and support a creator who harasses others for such petty reasons.
22 hours ago
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Lurkering
@Lurkering
Thank you for the insight! Hope things go well for you!
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riteousmortician
@riteousmortician
so your saying, if someone makes a CSAM bot publicly, you can't ban them and the bot only goes private?? so people can just MAKE these types of bots as long as it's privated!? that's outrageous.
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VerediK
@VerediK
I mean you can still chat with deleted/private bots. It's not like they are "gone" forever. Although they May get glitchy or they won't answer sometimes. What you make cannot be deleted at all let's say.
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Mikale
@Mikale
Yes exactly, the bot just goes in private (And everyone with an open chat with that bot can continue to use it)
22 hours ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
And it stays on their servers as well. Even literal illegal stuff. Source: I know a link to an ai genned pic that is most definitely illegal, still up and on the servers.
10 hours ago
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VerediK
@VerediK
Yes, basically anything you make and let public will always be up, even if you delete everything or privatize that specific bot, if somebody have a chat with that bot it's still possible to chat with them. You can even see the original images the creator put in the og description, even if they took it out.

It helped me because they were some good/interesting bots that were deleted for some reason. But thinking about it, all this could also be used for bad, and the fact that what you make public can't be deleted and that it's still somehow accesible to someones' is nuts.
4 hours ago
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ayaqxi
@ayaqxi
I am so incredibly disgusted and shocked right now by how awful and cruel the devs are.
1 day ago
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Coco eevee
@Coco eevee
Stay safe and healthy
1 day ago
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VerediK
@VerediK
Wish you luck and the best. Honestly I don't know what more can I say.
1 day ago
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LilBugg
@LilBugg
I'll make sure to keep an eye out for you on 🍳, like an easter egg hunt lol
1 day ago
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Zloaka
@Zloaka
I want to share 
I few times deleted chats/bots, and i was able to chatting with it if chat was opened on other device 
And it's reappeared after that on every device and account
It was half year ago, i even then noticed like something is "off"
But i continued because i don't know which alternative i have 😖
In official disco any questions about alternatives got ban, and on discord whole, i dunno how to formulate... Horde of moders who upset when you send pic with your kitty in general chat because they have chat for chat for chat for category for chat
I know why they doing it, but it punching off any need to text in these discord 
Because it watched closely and even when you behave upu can be scolded 

And if site have, fuck, just TWO moderators now, it's fucking disgusting. I'm shocked about it.
I knew long time ago but brushed it off
And now i fucking stunned about what to do
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@Anoneerrrr
Someone translate this I have adhd bro 😭😭
1 day ago
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Zloaka
@Zloaka
Translate what...?
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
I can't understand what you're saying 😭
1 day ago
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Zloaka
@Zloaka
Ah you never was on official discord server i suppose 🥴
I'm speaking about this
1 day ago
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GhostNat
@GhostNat
I read it and I’m still confused, can someone simplify it? Are people leaving because the moderators are getting harassed? What is going on with this platform? Is it going to get shut down- what do you mean by incase everything gets removed?
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
I don't know either but I'm literally shaking rn 😨
1 day ago
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Shlong_maximus
@Shlong_maximus
Look through the comments, it's cus they're not doing enough to ban predators. Also they're overworking the mods.
1 day ago
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Havokpaintedwolf
@Havokpaintedwolf
so we go through nsfw images being banned even a shoulder being fucking verbotten but they just shadowban pedophiles instead of reporting and banning and reporting them?
1 day ago
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angelichalic
@angelichalic
I'm so shocked I'm disgusted.
1 day ago
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Shlong_maximus
@Shlong_maximus
Low-key might spell the doom of JAI if they don't get a handle of things, it's completely unacceptable.
1 day ago
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Brafy
@Brafy
Can someone explain to me what happened if possible? I dont know much about this and tend to not look at attention or drama but now i am curious
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
It's crazy bro. Shit is literally going down rn
1 day ago
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Brafy
@Brafy
Would you mind telling me said shit ?
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
I was taking my dog for a walk. Here's a better summary:
Platform moderation bad. Few unpaid mods do huge work. Rules unclear, change all time. Tools weak, only affect public stuff, bad private stuff stay. Mods no real power; devs overrule them and help big creators. Mods get hate and harassment, no protection. Author leave because mods treated bad and system only pretend keep people safe.
1 day ago
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Brafy
@Brafy
Ah how interesting it'd be a shame if there was a person smart enough to get a few well i wknt say it but lets just say its two letters from the english lexicon that are used to refer to a persons digital locations and can be used to find a persons location......in a game of course
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
You gonna dpxx and merk me because I was was walking my dog? Please don't bro 😭
1 day ago
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Alex112233
@Alex112233
ooo look at this sigma
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
Lmao that yitsmar trolled everyone and deleted his comment 😸😸
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
Not quite what happened! You wrote a troll comment and deleted it 😸 now seems you're ashamed of it or why else are you getting emotional?
1 day ago
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Alex112233
@Alex112233
lol that guy just deleted all his comments. what a pussy 😭🙏
15 hours ago
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@Anoneerrrr
I know right? Bro wanted to act tuff but got egg on his face 🤭
8 hours ago
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NovaLove44
@NovaLove44
(I said the wrong person so I’m posting my comment again, fixed this time 🤦)
I’m so sorry you had to go through this. I’ve pretty much had my head in the sand when it came to this site, because I didn’t interact with ANYTHING but the bots. And Occasionally the status of the site on discord when it was being wonky. But other than that, I was completely blind to all this. I’m so glad this site has notifications cause if it wasn’t for Delirenous’s post, I wouldn’t have known what an absolute shit show it is behind the curtain. 
I really hope you are doing better now that you’ve left the moderation. I wish you the best 🙏
1 day ago
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Yitsmar
@Yitsmar
What a completely depressing state of affairs.

As someone who is out of the loop, who just uses chatbots for fun and go about my life, create a few bots now and then, who doesn't partake in Discord or Reddit... what a polarizing discovery this is.

Whilst not entirely surprising, at least not the favouritism part and bias in selective rules applying to certain people and the image censorship, but three (now two, maybe none now) active moderators for a website that gets 2000+ new bots, everyday, is laughable. And the fact that the team is so small to begin with, and not even employed or even made aware of changes to the TOS or any form of communication from upper management is tragic.

I personally don't know who you are shep, and never will, but you sound like a right wanker.
1 day ago
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GenAlphamaster
@GenAlphamaster
we were told to ban CSAM only if it was "very bad."
WTF Shep was smoking?
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GenAlphamaster
@GenAlphamaster
Btw on reddit -GodDamnTheSun- Posted Child Content was only "Shadowbanned"
Not Reported, Not Banned, Straight up Shadowbanned.
1 day ago
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•°A rule-breaking puppet!°•
@•°A rule-breaking puppet!°•
The censorship rules is honestly super crazy like wdym if it's "very bad" it's already an unacceptable topic 💔
1 day ago
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DKPGaming
@DKPGaming
Shit nophono cares about
1 day ago
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•°A rule-breaking puppet!°•
@•°A rule-breaking puppet!°
Bro who are you😭
1 day ago
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SickAsOph
@SickAsOph
profile pic tracks
1 day ago
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VerediK
@VerediK
Tsmt
1 day ago
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CEWKIEMUNSTER
@CEWKIEMUNSTER
Before I read this I kind of thought you guys were assholes, and now that I've read this, I sincerely apologize. You guys don't deserve this abuse, and I'm glad you're doing what's best for you. Stay safe out there, Mikale!
1 day ago
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HyoBin
@HyoBin
Fuck you, asshole
1 day ago
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Suori
@Suori
?
1 day ago
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jasdfhuiasdy
@jasdfhuiasdy
Emotionless bastard
1 day ago
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sweetzer
@sweetzer
What’s wrong with you
1 day ago
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•°A rule-breaking puppet!°•
@•°A rule-breaking puppet!°
Bro this the second time ive seen you comment this on a bot😭
1 day ago
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Suori
@Suori
🦭
1 day ago
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•°A rule-breaking puppet!°•
@•°A rule-breaking puppet!°
Seal🥹
1 day ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
Wow rude I'm so hurt it's unbearable :'c
22 hours ago
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themogus
@themogus
terminator reference spotted
15 hours ago
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tunadayo
@tunadayo
are you okay in the head
4 hours ago
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Amaliare
@Amaliare
I experienced this as well. The environment is driven by ego. I volunteered as a ticket moderator because I genuinely cared about JanitorAI, but it became a deeply negative experience. I was mistreated and humiliated without any clear reason.

The system itself is fundamentally broken. Leadership is indifferent, the rules are unclear, and instructions are inconsistent or simply nonexistent. You’re expected to handle an overwhelming workload, often replying to tickets in languages you don’t even speak, without proper guidance or context.

Frankly, the ticket system makes little sense. There is no reliable documentation—everything depends on a template that can become obsolete at any moment. Sometimes changes are communicated, sometimes they aren’t. You’re handed tickets with comments like “good luck with this,” as if you had any real authority, which you don’t.

What you’re actually given is exposure: exposure to frustrated users, backlash, and an egocentric, dehumanizing chain of command. Responsibility without power, accountability without protection.
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@Anoneerrrr
Can someone tldr this I have adhd?! 😭😭Where's myrathecatgirl🥺
1 day ago
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THEbotimpregnator
@THEbotimpregnator
Yo what did this site become 😭🙏 i initially just wanted to goon
1 day ago
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Idontreallycarebutok
@Idontreallycarebutok
Your username... it scares me immensly...
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
Some people.... Don't want us to goon 🫣🫣
1 day ago
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ADas
@ADas
this feels like we only go backwards at this point
1 day ago
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themogus
@themogus
it's the anti-goon police, run
15 hours ago
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promesa18
@promesa18
I thought it was my internet as to why the site was so ass… nevermind
1 day ago
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SUGARCOOKIEZ
@SUGARCOOKIEZ
So.. what are users supposed to do?.. I'm genuinely scared thinking about it. I feel awful but this is the only bot site I like 😭 will someone maybe take Shep's place...?
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SUGARCOOKIEZ
@SUGARCOOKIEZ
Also, Shep did apologize in the server and said he's going to try to be way more involved, and that he just realized how bad it had been. I'm not excusing btw! Just thought I'd mention.
1 day ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
Hes said this way too many times before for it to be believable now.
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
I think it's all gonna blow over tbh
1 day ago
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bobluvver
@bobluvver
no literally like what are people expecting us to do lmao all of us are just here to have sex with AI bots we can't do shit😭
1 day ago
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Gorday
@Gorday
Maybe some good guys can send shit to Shep's house🤓☝️
"Shep did apologize in the server and said he's going to try to be way more involved, and that he just realized how bad it had been" 
The guy had the nerve to watch "Moderators Team: 1/3 online" EVERY DAY and he didn't realize something was wrong?
1 day ago
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SUGARCOOKIEZ
@SUGARCOOKIEZ
I was just mentioning it, I wasn't defending him???
1 day ago
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Gorday
@Gorday
Okay, I was just saying that he gave a pathetic excuse and spread some hate 👉👈
22 hours ago
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Rit0ca
@Rit0ca
It's very sad that many authors have started leaving the platform.Does anyone know what happened to the user Kay_091999? This was my favorite creator, but now his bots and profile are unavailable, and I don’t have his Discord server :(
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Rit0ca
@Rit0ca
Is she available on other similar sites?
1 day ago
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@littl3milk
I lived by this author's bots... I hope to see her on another site someday...
1 day ago
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Rit0ca
@Rit0ca
YES, Kay was my first favorite author on this platform
1 day ago
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Rit0ca
@Rit0ca
@Simimona You can give the name/link to Kay Discord server?😓
1 day ago
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@littl3milk
Unfortunately, as far as I understand, she doesn't have a Discord server.
1 day ago
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ariiiiiiiisuuuuuuuu
@ariiiiiiiisuuuuuuuu
can someone pls let me know if she posts on any other sites 🙏🙏
1 day ago
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Alex112233
@Alex112233
just go on jannyai and copy her bots for yourself, just make it private. she gave permission
1 day ago
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ariiiiiiiisuuuuuuuu
@ariiiiiiiisuuuuuuuu
@Alex112233 none of her bots show up on there unfortunately :((
1 day ago
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Navyzzz
@Navyzzz
same, i love Kay_091999's bots and it makes me sad the fact that she deleted her account..
Tell me if you find a way to copy her bots to use them in private. 😿
23 hours ago
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Lil_Reaper16
@Lil_Reaper16
Omg I was wondering where her bots went, she was also my most favorite bot creator. If anyone knows what happened, or finds her on another platform, please let me know! D:
18 hours ago
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Navyzzz
@Navyzzz
Hiii! Me again! I found some info on Kay, look up u/iivihaku on reddit! They gave enough info about what happened and Kay allows copying the definition of their bots as long as you keep it private.
17 hours ago
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Lil_Reaper16
@Lil_Reaper16
Aw, I read what happened, it’s a shame she left, but I respect her decision. And tysm for the info! I luckily still had some of my fav bots of hers still in the My Chats section.
17 hours ago
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Alex112233
@Alex112233
search one of her bots, e.g., "Jay Woods" then click her account next to "Creator:". just scroll down a bit as her bio has huge blank spaces
15 hours ago
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burber_boi
@burber_boi
and here MY DUMBASS was thinking that you guys just sucked in general. apparently not. hope you all get the treatment you deserve, and I hope that the two other mods get real tools and real support.
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LatArctikFoxx128
@LatArctikFoxx128
Same tbh. It's the people who can't even run a site properly that's the problem.
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
I mean let's not forget the userbase. The 100k reports and stuff like that don't appear because of mods or devs
1 day ago
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LatArctikFoxx128
@LatArctikFoxx128
True.
1 day ago
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EclipseJoku
@EclipseJoku
I hope you're feeling alright and find somewhere that feels safer ^w^
1 day ago
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AngelizxLfvstle
@AngelizxLfvstle
Bruh these devs suck
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LatArctikFoxx128
@LatArctikFoxx128
Get this user a 'true...'
1 day ago
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THR33W1SH3S
@THR33W1SH3S
This isn’t false…THIS IS TRUE.
17 hours ago
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LatArctikFoxx128
@LatArctikFoxx128
This is really sad. I've always had my suspicions that something wasn't right with the site. But this is just wrong. Hope you're doing alright though.
1 day ago
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BANOK
@BANOK
What a shitshow. It's sad to see how this project turned out, as well as how unproductive and unprofessional the dev team and shep himself were. Because I was genuinely attached and had hopes this place would improve, I even joined the discord and interacted regularly with the people there before I got banned. 

It really seems like there's nothing saving this ship, not that it deserves saving after seeing the things you guys had to go through. Oh well, life goes on.
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@Anoneerrrr
You got no idea what's it like to be number 1
1 day ago
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sasarkany
@sasarkany
I feel like i missed something but from what i have gathered im so sorry that y'all had to go trough that. I guess it was time i tackled my chatbot addiction lmao this is a good push
1 day ago
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Gülsen(:
@Gülsen(:
It's very sad and terrible that such a large site with a great community open to development is being thrown away like this.
1 day ago
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BURGER
@BURGER
I’ve been on this site since 2023 and wow, it’s so sad to see its downfall like this. While i have noticed the inconsistency with moderation i always assumed it was just incompetence when in reality it was just three (and ONE at one point?!)  people not even getting paid to moderate a site that has (thousands, millions?) of users; that’s insane and so irresponsible and shitty of the devs(?) to even attempt to do. I give you my deepest condolences, i cannot imagine how stressful it is to try and moderate a site like this without any help or any compensation. Anyways, i hope if you do moderator for anything else you actually get compensated and the support you need, and if not, then i wish you the best in whatever you do pursue.
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Idontreallycarebutok
@Idontreallycarebutok
Are you a burger or a hotdog.
1 day ago
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BURGER
@BURGER
@Idontreallycarebutok both
1 day ago
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Idontreallycarebutok
@Idontreallycarebutok
... wha... that isnt how.... that isnt how that works...
1 day ago
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BURGER
@BURGER
yes it is
1 day ago
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Idontreallycarebutok
@Idontreallycarebutok
So what. Im a shark that also walks on land? How absurd is THAT.
1 day ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
A burger is meat between buns… a hotdog is meat between buns…

I see no difference.
1 day ago
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VerediK
@VerediK
Ay, been here since 2023 too. Give me a high five.
1 day ago
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BURGER
@BURGER
ay w
22 hours ago
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HimWhoChats
@HimWhoChats
I can relate with being here since 2023 I would also like to join the club and wow how far we have come seeing all of the changes done to this site
20 hours ago
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jasdfhuiasdy
@jasdfhuiasdy
Pretty sad how much hate this is getting :/
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Mikale
@Mikale
Compared to the support, the hate here is really nothing and mostly just trolls :)
1 day ago
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jasdfhuiasdy
@jasdfhuiasdy
The sheer audacity of some people is vile… hope your doing well.
1 day ago
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Ephraemi
@Ephraemi
But why did Janitor unrestrict the UK's access to this platform after saying UK residents would be blocked? People are still accessing it normally. 👀
1 day ago
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jasdfhuiasdy
@jasdfhuiasdy
WHAT?! I’m British and I didn’t know this.
1 day ago
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Ephraemi
@Ephraemi
The AI won't let me post the URL for the blog post, but if you Google "Janitorai UK," it will be the first search result.
1 day ago
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Exetior the Arch-demon
@Exetior the Arch-demon
Yeah after like... A week of being unable to access the site I came back. My return was legendary
1 day ago
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tsumusgh
@tsumusgh
I would like to see proofs, not verbal accusations.
I can write that I am the daughter of some rich man. Can I be trusted right away?
if all the words are true, then of course the situation is terrible, but it's hard for me to believe without proof.
1 day ago
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Visitors_vancy
@Visitors_vancy
Bruh thats why you need to read the official discord server ;pppppp
1 day ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
I invite you to join the Discord where we shared what we had with other former mods.
1 day ago
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jasdfhuiasdy
@jasdfhuiasdy
Go into discord dawg
1 day ago
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tsumusgh
@tsumusgh
It's normal for people to doubt. I didn't see a single word about the presence of proofs in the post, so I didn't even think about going to the server, but since they are there, I'll take a look.
1 day ago
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BlueyLancer
@BlueyLancer
Honestly I start to actually think that Shep deserves more hate than I thought.
1 day ago
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BlueyLancer
@BlueyLancer
Anyone with a functional brain would understand if something's growing so big and your workers can't handle them as efficient as before, hire more workers.
1 day ago
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jasdfhuiasdy
@jasdfhuiasdy
Literally anyone with a brain could run this site better than shep 😭
1 day ago
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LatArctikFoxx128
@LatArctikFoxx128
Atp my pet cat could run this site better.
1 day ago
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BalsavSalsa
@BalsavSalsa
Coyle 😭😭 son 😭 Outlast Trials fans are either nice or crazy racist or something
1 day ago
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Hosea Azastarion
@Hosea Azastarion
I really like Outlast, I like how Red Barrels portrays their characters and their comics on their official website, it's a very tense atmosphere. But,  I honestly don't understand at all why people want to romanticize the characters in Outlast, like... all the characters have a messed up background, some with disturbing childhood stories, and for people to want to take a character like Coyle, who's a racist jerk, full of problematic speeches and actions, and romanticize that is bizarre. Outlast isn't meant to be romanticized; the game has a lot of heavy themes and is even based on that secret MK Ultra project from the CIA.
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BalsavSalsa
@BalsavSalsa
True, I think some of the most important parts of characters are looked over just because they are attractive. I enjoy reading about each character whether they’re a prime asset or expop. While I see the appeal of romanticizing a character just because they’re appealing to the eye, most common examples I’ve seen are Coyle and Liliya. I can’t lie I do have my favorites but that also doesn’t mean I like their upbringing (like Coyle)
sorry if none of this has no correlation Its so early and I have no clue what I’m even talking about anymore I just saw something about Outlast Trials and thought holy shit I love that game
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Hosea Azastarion
@Hosea Azastarion
I also have my favorites, but I particularly like the protagonists much more, lol. Especially in Outlast 1 and the Whistleblower DLC, Miles and Waylon will always be my favorites, but I know that the prime assets have characteristics that people are attracted to, and I believe that the voice actor's voice helps a lot in the work. I, for example, love the voices of the characters, the prime assets. And as you said, Coyle and Liliya are generally the characters that people, for some reason, are most attracted to, just like people had a fixation on Eddie the fiancé from Outlast Whistleblower. But it's basically impossible to romanticize Outlast; in my head, it's simply not possible, given how everything is quite heavy and intense in the game.
1 day ago
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BalsavSalsa
@BalsavSalsa
I lov Eddie and Waylon so muc h, Coyle’s voice lines are funny voices totally contribute to the romantic stuff 👍
1 day ago
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Idontreallycarebutok
@Idontreallycarebutok
You guys should write a book together. That was a TON of reading.
1 day ago
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BalsavSalsa
@BalsavSalsa
Thanks Jeff the landshark
1 day ago
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Idontreallycarebutok
@Idontreallycarebutok
I stole this from my sibling. I have no regrets.
1 day ago
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Hosea Azastarion
@Hosea Azastarion
What a precarious situation, this website is truly falling apart. And to have to work voluntarily while receiving insults and threats from people everywhere... it's terrible, I honestly can't even imagine how awful it must be, not only that, but also the fact of being constantly exposed to bizarre bots, ...and working with a dev team that honestly doesn't take anything that's going on seriously. I wish you all the success, Mikale! And thank you for opening our eyes to what really happens behind the scenes. May your journey from here on out be wonderful 🥹🥹🥹❤️❤️❤️.
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Hosea Azastarion
@Hosea Azastarion
Even after posting this, we go into the comments and there are people saying stupid things... honestly, some people get pleasure from being inconvenient and unnecessary.
1 day ago
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LatArctikFoxx128
@LatArctikFoxx128
Site's been falling apart since '25 bud. It's honestly sad.
1 day ago
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FloconNoir
@FloconNoir
Salut !!
J'arrive très en retard x) je ne te voyais plus sur le discord francophone et je n'étais pas au courant des départs. Je te retrouve enfin pour apprendre ton départ. 
C'est dommage mais je comprends vraiment ton ras le bol. Je te souhaite une bonne continuation. Merci pour tout ce que tu as fait pour nous et pour ce site . Merci 💙
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callmeemmy
@callmeemmy
This breaks my heart to hear 😭

I'm happy that at least you were able to get out a shitty situation. I’ve got no clue where to move my bots if janitorai shuts down but it could be for the best.
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Akira.wyd
@Akira.wyd
Try sauspan!! A lot of creators I’m familiar with are moving there 😁
1 day ago
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Akira.wyd
@Akira.wyd
Sauce*
1 day ago
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callmeemmy
@callmeemmy
I'll have to check it out then
1 day ago
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Sae-Byeok'sWifey
@Sae-Byeok'sWifey
Awhh please take care 🫂💕
1 day ago
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user413460864
@user413460864
I cried when I read the whole ass thing
1 day ago
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int3rst3ll4r
@int3rst3ll4r
What is BEYOND me is how a website with this many users can operate with so little management structure. Voluntary work is fine up to a point, but when it turns into full-time hours with real responsibilities and no compensation, it stops being a hobby. In my view, developers should be able to stay focused on development and keeping the site running, while moderation, user communication, issue handling, and bans are handled by mods. That separation just makes things clearer and more sustainable for both sides. On top of that, there should be clear and regular communication between devs and mods. Even a short daily check-in or call, half an hour or so, would go a long way toward sharing updates, answering questions, and avoiding misunderstandings. For something this important, that doesn’t seem unrealistic. Still, I want to thank the mods for carrying this for so long, and I’m genuinely sorry you had to deal with so much stress and harassment. You didn’t deserve that. This situation should be a serious wake-up call for the devs, and I really hope it leads to real action going forward.
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KG_Jadee
@KG_Jadee
Yeah, no, wtf. This must be ilegal
1 day ago
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Aididi
@Aididi
DUDEE WHATT??? NOOO??!!!😭😭😭😭 I DID NOT KNOW MODS WERE BEING TORTUREDDD
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justafarmer
@justafarmer
I wonder if they can sue??? They spent countless hours working without making a penny
1 day ago
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Shinji.
@Shinji.
@justafarmer

Wasn't it originally volunteering? I just don't understand one thing: why stay and work if you don't like it and you don't make a profit? You guys sound like they were enslaved.
1 day ago
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justafarmer
@justafarmer
But isnt it really a cheapskate move to hire ‘volunteers’ to do full time work?? Why not actually pay people properly….
1 day ago
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Yeshiixx
@Yeshiixx
Most online moderation positions are "voluntarily" meaning you signed up for a certain amount of pay and they dont have to go over that, they just cant go under it.

In the case of janitor mods I believe they were never promised payment(? unsure since I only really moderated on a large scale once for a 50k+ member discord server.) so they can't really pursue any legal action.
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
@Aididi guy is trolling don't fall for it guys
1 day ago
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Shinji.
@Shinji.
@justafarmer

I don't know if the project has funding. But then again, you're not being forced to stay; you can leave. Yes, being a moderator on such a large platform is a thankless job, especially if it's unpaid, but you either insist on payment or leave.
1 day ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
I feel like there really should be a form of compensation, given that they constantly received stuff like depth threats (to the point where moderator accounts became anonymous) and basically slogged through what no sane man would ever go 100 miles near. Which all could've been avoided long ago along with having transparent communication that shep kept promising yet continued to not deliver on.
1 day ago
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Max Demian
@Max Demian
That's that, and this is this.
1 day ago
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pluke4523
@pluke4523
this site is mostly a cesspit anyway. the majority of bots are pornographic and plenty are reprehensible or obscene
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@Anoneerrrr
Erm just let us jerk off bro. What's the big deal?
1 day ago
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Idontreallycarebutok
@Idontreallycarebutok
We have normal and fun bots for normal. Every day use. And an all you can eat buffet of goon.
1 day ago
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bobluvver
@bobluvver
girl that's the point hello
1 day ago
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Yuri collector
@Yuri collector
Oh no not the poor broke Mod! Lol why would I care about you?
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Cicilyyyy
@Cicilyyyy
Cuz he literally was one of the only three mods that kept this site going, you idiotic asshole? I'd like to see how you would react if one day you're being mistreated and not being payed.
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Bruisername
@Bruisername
You. People like you are the problem. You're so entitled and self-centered. I hope that you don't have anyone who acts like you do in your life, because going through a rough patch around them would suck. Be better. Dork.
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Moonlight_Productions
@Moonlight_Productions
The three people who liked this comment are cruel and heartless. This is another human being we're talking about. But if this was your friend you'd be singing another tune 🙄
1 day ago
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cecciiIris
@cecciiIris
nobody gives af about you too
1 day ago
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Sae-Byeok'sWifey
@Sae-Byeok'sWifey
lil bro thinks she's tuff
1 day ago
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Pineapplecat
@Pineapplecat
😢lil bro probably upset cuz their illegal bot got banned ..boohoo so saaadd
You should have never existed you creepy
1 day ago
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Idontreallycarebutok
@Idontreallycarebutok
... its the replies. Sure the comment itself is bad. But look at the replies. People who reply like this are only slightly better then the original commenter. I get what your doing. But i just wish you all to calm down.  Like pineapplecat. You just said you wish they never existed. That... that isnt cool. It isnt nice and its the very reason this mod is leaving in the first place. Sorry for the paragraph. I needed to get that out.
1 day ago
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justafarmer
@justafarmer
username checks out. You’re probably one of those effed up people
1 day ago
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Idontreallycarebutok
@Idontreallycarebutok
I dont like to say hate and i do not wish to continue this. But my userbame only applies to me not caring what my username was when i made it. If i could change it i would change it to something more comedic. Sorry if i talk too much. Just instinct to prove myself in the right when in the eyes of others i am wrong.
1 day ago
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justafarmer
@justafarmer
No honey I’m referring to the OG commenter @yuri collector lol 😭
1 day ago
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Idontreallycarebutok
@Idontreallycarebutok
Oh. Fuck. Sorry. I didnt know that. I am anazing at tginking stuff wrong. God damn it. I feel like the meme of the giy slamming his head into the table wheezing from embarassment.
1 day ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
I mean, I don't care about you either, we don't know each other. But in a way, we both cared enough to comment to each other :p Take care, mate!
1 day ago
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Sae-Byeok'sWifey
@Sae-Byeok'sWifey
@Mikale I hope ur doing well , take care❤️
1 day ago
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Frungi
@Frungi
Same reason you would care about a janitor. Which some people just don’t.
1 day ago
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Mephisto San
@Mephisto San
Human beings can be such evil and uncaring creatures sometimes. When they see another going through struggles, they point and laugh.

But then they're the first ones to cry when nobody is helping them when they're in the same situation. So fucking stupid, dude. Monkeys behave better towards each than this.
1 day ago
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J
@Juzu
You a bum bro y would you even work for free ?
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@Juzu
But still gonna miss this website if this is the end
1 day ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
I don't know, maybe because I liked the site and had free time to give?
1 day ago
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dumghosti
@dumghosti
did you even read the actual text or like
1 day ago
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J
@Juzu
Obviously too much time
20 hours ago
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Goober_Rabbot
@Goober_Rabbot
Oh, no lads these business practices here are horrific only three mods for a site this big. <:<
1 day ago
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Gorday
@Gorday
Moderators (3 peoples🥴) are harassed, unpaid, follow dictatorial rules, and work their asses off.
Wtf is that? I'm still on topic number 3 and it's very frustrating to read this.
1 day ago
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lehighvalleyrail
@lehighvalleyrail
crazy how you joined the mod team 1 day after i joined, good luck big dawg
1 day ago
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FizzyKindaSucks
@FizzyKindaSucks
Dude I never commented ONCE on my time being on Janitor.AI due to minding my own business but doing ALL of THAT MOD WORK and NOT GETTING PAID WHATSOEVER is INSANE!!! This has to be like a crime or something dude
1 day ago
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kainyte
@kainyte
some of yall gota look into sites w no moderation / archives for posting content abt yalls weird ftishes ..... like ao3 is a thing u know 😭
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Shinji.
@Shinji.
Nevertheless, AO3 remains the most popular platform for publishing text content. And there's really good content if you know how to use filters :)
1 day ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
Basically AO3 of chatbots. Of course, most people using janitor dont set foot near there because "ermahgerd text content about a minor?!?!? you all are pedos!11!!!1!"

But we have shep """joking""" about the "shep files" during this. Really?

No censorship --- ease of use
Pick one.
1 day ago
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Mephisto San
@Mephisto San
Anybody blowing off the fact Venus has minor content and glazing it for not being censored most likely consumes said content. 

You're really not doing anything except telling others what you like.
1 day ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
Have fun at weeny hut jr then, I suppose. A place where real minors aren't fully removed btw.

Since when was only text considered csam? Why isn't jllm filtered for it?
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Mephisto San
@Mephisto San
Yeah. You people all vomit the same exact argument. 

"If it's not physical or real, that makes it okay." 

Here's a challenge. 

Go to Venus, make an account/log in

Look up
1 day ago
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Mephisto San
@Mephisto San
Shota
1 day ago
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Mephisto San
@Mephisto San
Or
1 day ago
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Mephisto San
@Mephisto San
L

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L

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1 day ago
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Mephisto San
@Mephisto San
Turn off the NSFW filter, cast it to a large screen TV in front of your friends or family

Or in a public place 

And scroll through the results
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Mephisto San
@Mephisto San
Then right as anyone shows discomfort

Say "it's not real, get over it"

Then come back and tell us what happened.
1 day ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
If you think talking to an ai chatbot IS talking to a real being, then boy do I have news for you.
1 day ago
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Mephisto San
@Mephisto San
If you haven't done the challenge 

Do not talk to me.
1 day ago
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Tortita
@Tortita
XD
1 day ago
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kainyte
@kainyte
can we stop arguing in my replies 🫩 i myself am anti censorship and believe the fiction u consume does not equate to the habits or ideals u hold to real life
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
@mephisto It's not real bro 🙏 @kainyte sorry man Ur inbox boutta get blown up
1 day ago
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Mephisto San
@Mephisto San
Nobody wants to take on the challenge. Sad.
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
Of course man we're only here to clown on u😸😸
1 day ago
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Mephisto San
@Mephisto San
You're not clowning on anyone. 

Ya'll lack the proper amount of brain cells to actually try it because you're scared. 💀

You're tough on that keyboard but when someone gives you a task that could result in people cutting you off for real, you turn into a pussy. Lmao
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
🎤🗑️ anything else?
1 day ago
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Mephisto San
@Mephisto San
Do the challenge and stop talking to me. 

Stop being a coward.
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
Alright record a video of yourself riding a horse dildo and then I'll do it. How bout that 😇
1 day ago
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Mephisto San
@Mephisto San
Do my challenge. 

Or shut the fuck up. You have nothing to fear yet you're so scared to do it.

Just do it.
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
Nuh uh. Ladies first 😸😸
1 day ago
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kainyte
@kainyte
@Mephisto San u are more immature than some of the minors ive found on this account. fiction affects reality as much as you let it, and the average person will feel different emotions when consuming triggering media, but that's about the only reaction we as humans cannot control. the topics u mentioned for ur "challenge" are inherently triggering for most people, they even make me personally uncomfortable, so no one is going to subject their family to that so stop arguing about your "challenge"; no one wants to put their family through discomfort for an internet stranger

"Anybody blowing off the fact Venus has minor content and glazing it for not being censored most likely consumes said content." okay and? just because you consume taboo / dark content doesn't mean you condone those things in real life. thats like saying "video games make you violent" or whatever. i bet youve consumed at least one piece of media where a character was killed, are you suddenly a murderer? no.
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kainyte
@kainyte
@Mephisto San "You're really not doing anything except telling others what you like." again, there is nothing wrong with liking something strange/dark/taboo/etc if it doesn't harm anyone in real life. people make/consume/enjoy dark content for multiple reasons; licensed therapists WILL tell you to consume contentment relating to your trauma (sa, etc), this is a REAL thing therapists tell you to do to work through trauma, but that doesn't mean the person suddenly enjoyed the experience itself. consuming media fictional of a topic ≠ enjoying/partaking in it in real life
21 hours ago
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kainyte
@kainyte
@Mephisto San you act like youre so morally superior to ant-censorship people just because you demonize a few sites. ive got news for you, buddy, triggering content involving sa, children, etc has existed forever! look at vladimir nabokov's novels or the breserk manga, i've seen absolutely no one say anyone reading those agrees with the things depicted in those works when they happen in real life. along with that, have either of those media made sa, etc legal? no! fiction doesn't affect reality to the extent you think it does.
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Mephisto San
@Mephisto San
You can say whatever you want, and reject the idea that fiction has led to real things happening all you want.

If you refuse to do the challenge, what are you fighting for?

You're talking about being uncomfortable when you're sitting here fighting tooth and nail to prove it's harmless to human eyes.

Make it make sense.
21 hours ago
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kainyte
@kainyte
did u read the part where i said i don't want to make my family uncumfortable?? anyway i wont be relying to whatever else u have to say bcs clearly youre not as educated in this topic as you make yourself out to be. have a good day and learn to block and move on instead of arguing in a reply to MY comment just because you disagreed with a stranger on the internet
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Mephisto San
@Mephisto San
I never tried to act or look educated. 

The fact that none of you are up to my "triggering challenge" to prove to other people in person that the stuff you are defending so hard is harmless, is asinine. 

At the end of the day, you'll fight for it on that keyboard. But you won't fight for it in person. That's called being a pussy.

Have a good day or night.
16 hours ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
Like you'd even believe if anyone did.
10 hours ago
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Mephisto San
@Mephisto San
Anyone can lie and say they did it and mot have proof. So you're right. I wouldn't.
5 hours ago
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J
@jeo98
Argumentum ad populum, tautologies, ontological collaspes... no concept of moral patient or moral agent status...ignoratio elenchi...  lol...
1 hour ago
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Banri009
@Banri009
i see so thats what happening and also site doing some things. goodjob. and goodluck jai..your site.gonna be gone for.good..shame..it was good too much restriction i can understand the minor stuff. but banning people that are legits? lol..shame
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Banri009
@Banri009
to be honest the only making this site still function is because of Proxy and dedicated Mods and Creative Bots that slowy dying because of too much censorship that make Finest bot creators limit there passion.theres a lot of Ai site platform doing so well not so censored..but charging lot.of money..this site is a freaking heaven sent for proxy users without proxy i abandon this site long time ago.Chub is like laughing on jai
1 day ago
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vsk.pv
@vsk.pv
You're so strong! Going through all that alone must have been very stressful, and I agree with the other three moderators, a site like this is ridiculous :( It saddens me what's happening; sometimes I wish people weren't evil (regarding the people who create inappropriate content as mentioned in this post). That way, the world would be a better place.
1 day ago
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Gray Graves
@Gray Graves
I have nothing to say, 3 mods for a website this big is ludicrous
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justafarmer
@justafarmer
AND UNPAID?? what the hell that’s modern day slavery
1 day ago
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Idontreallycarebutok
@Idontreallycarebutok
Not slavery. It was voluntary work. Sure i wish they were payed but please dont label it as slavery.
1 day ago
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LilyLyre
@LilyLyre
Jeeze. Fuck. Look, I was sad about my nsfw images being removed, and I was upset about the inconsistency, but it’s hard to see it laid out like this on yalls end and know what the team is dealing with. I just wanna say I’m SO grateful for any work the mods (current and past) have put towards getting rid of CSAM, and thank you for fighting that good fight. I hope the devs work on consistency and transparency, and make sure to treat their volunteers with respect. I apologize if my past complaints about changes ever said “mods” when it should have said “devs”. ✨💖🌸
1 day ago
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melloncollie
@melloncollie
so so sorry and proud of your bravery
1 day ago
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P4stel_St4arrs
@P4stel_St4arrs
3 unpaid people moderating an entire site this big is just insane.. What.... 
I feel like that should be illegal or something
1 day ago
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nuxoequality
@nuxoequality
"only if it was very bad" what the actual fuck??????????????????
1 day ago
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Cheese man 2.o
@Cheese man 2.o
Gang this website is like the fall of the roman empire....ngl
1 day ago
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Gisse___l
@Gisse___l
Are you telling me that you guys put up with all that and they didn't even PAY YOU 😭???
1 day ago
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Monktoodazed
@Monktoodazed
If you don’t want to read it the devs don’t protect the mods and basically do nothing to help them imo.
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Monktoodazed
@Monktoodazed
Also they change rules or make new ones and the mods learn at the same time we do.
1 day ago
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Kobold-lover
@Kobold-lover
Forgot to add that devs would show favouritism to certain creators as well
1 day ago
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Monktoodazed
@Monktoodazed
Oh yeah mb
1 day ago
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hotmensghorl
@hotmensghorl
I'm just here to have fun yet there's always so many things happening behind the scenes affecting the site.
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
I just wanna have fun too 🐱 we've got something in common bbg. You and me, what do you say, hmm? 🌹
1 day ago
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TravAme
@TravAme
A lot, and I mean a LOT of these issues were things that were noticeable to even the average user if they were paying attention, and I'm surprised it's taken this long for someone to get fed up and actually air it out. A lot of this is incompetence from the devs on a level that's honestly unacceptable for a site/company of this size, and if this isn't the kick in the ass they need to actually try fixing things after their countless promises, I don't think anything will be.
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dirtylao420 
@dirtylao420
I'm just glad I don't sound like the crazy guy sitting on the corner yapping about this stuff now lol its really vindicating. It just sucks it took so much abuse for it to come to light...
1 day ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
So fucking true lao. I remember getting called out for "doomposting" and "gooning"

Just gonna grab my popcorn and watch it burn while laughing in "i told you the slope was slippery"
1 day ago
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digdigsdj
@digdigsdj
2 years passed, just to see this site still working is amazing but yea some creator got ban and im upset, more and more.. after long time kinda used to it. without noticing peak creators slowly decreasing
1 day ago
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digdigsdj
@digdigsdj
But new peak creator will rise so its fine. Im still here bcs its free and thx to proxy
1 day ago
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Shootologist
@Shootologist
The janitor ai situation is crazy dawg💔🤞
1 day ago
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THR33W1SH3S
@THR33W1SH3S
here comes 36286329 7 hour long slip videos
17 hours ago
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THR33W1SH3S
@THR33W1SH3S
I meant slop
17 hours ago
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Me Lol
@Me Lol
I really thought this place was maintained by a huge group of mods. I mean, how are they going to maintain a site where thousands of users interact daily? I see that your job was really complicated, both psychologically and physically. You really did a great job enduring all that torment for so long. I don't usually comment; I'm very reserved online (and even in real life, lol). But this issue is very serious considering how unsafe the site is for you moderators. You literally take care of the place... and there's no pay? No security? And worst of all, no respect for you. I saw how several creators got irritated when their bots were taken down from the platform, and it really bothered me (especially knowing that most of the content here is 18+), but reading this made me reconsider things. You were really having a hard time, huh? Yeah, I guess I won't know what to do if this site disappears... I hope this is just a bad moment, and then everything goes back to normal. Rest well, all my brothers.
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ClankerCracker_1738
@ClankerCracker_1738
What a HORRIBLE time to finally make my first bot 🥀
1 day ago
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jasdfhuiasdy
@jasdfhuiasdy
I’m making a bot rn, we prolly cooked 😭
1 day ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
“What a terrible night to have a curse” type shit
1 day ago
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F
@fishinboe
That. is. Bad I don't know where I'm gonna move to now, really
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TheBurgerMan
@TheBurgerMan
chub or saucepan are good
1 day ago
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gvvyn
@gvvyn
bear in mind chub is banned in both AU and EU and has even less moderation. sauce might be a better bet atm
1 day ago
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TheBurgerMan
@TheBurgerMan
i never thought it would be possible to have more shit moderating than 3 people doing volunteer work looking over a website of millions man
1 day ago
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Idontreallycarebutok
@Idontreallycarebutok
I dont know why but when u said sauce pan i thought of a kawai frying pan.
1 day ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
No censorship is not less moderation. They fully delete what they cannot legally host, unlike janitor (i know this because I actually know the url an ai genned csam pic on their servers, from a bot that was ""deleted"" long ago). That shit would be off the servers and not have a working link still if shep was so anti-csam.
1 day ago
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willson8287
@willson8287
@gvvyn  If the mods are following the rules, it's not a moderation issue but a rule conflict.  They just have looser rules so you can find the wierder bots if you don't use filters.  Yeah, basically the AO3 of chatbots.
1 day ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
They remove media that they cant legally host. They do moderate. They do NOT censor.
1 day ago
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Oneirophilia
@Oneirophilia
Thank you for making this post <3

I had no idea about all this stuff going on... I just hope things get better, one way or another
1 day ago
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KM24
@KM24
First of all, as a user I am so sorry that you have had to go through this. Moderators are an essential role and being unpaid and unprotected with a tiny team and a confusing work environment is not easy and will never be. I’ve always been curious about the mods, because some people paint them as evil and abusive, and others are just chill about them. I honestly think mods do the best they can. There’s a lot of bad people who will do bad things, and it makes it even worse when the Devs paint themselves as these pure figures with a dream and the mods are like these snakes that are meant to poison the water when it appears that’s not true. I DO advise however that you detach yourself however much you can, make an anonymous account, get a VPN, anything you haven’t already done to protect yourself online. Please be safe and thank you for this information.
1 day ago
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Cherryzcherry
@Cherryzcherry
why all these f7uckers too lazy to read ToT (i just censor bc i don't know what im allowed to say honestly)
1 day ago
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Cherryzcherry
@Cherryzcherry
(i see why just a little since it took me like 20 minutes but like idc much anyway not like i have a life on the weekeneds)
1 day ago
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NocturnalSeas
@NocturnalSeas
I’ve always felt like this app came across as low-budget in how it’s run, and this really reinforces that impression for me. It often feels like it’s being managed by people who don’t have a clear plan or understanding of how to run a platform at this scale. The way the devs have handled past issues in inefficient or reactive ways has always made me bat an eye so none of this is really shocking to me. It’s genuinely disappointing to see how much responsibility has been pushed onto mods without the necessary tools, support, or protection. I’m glad this is finally coming to light, and I hope it leads to meaningful changes. That said, given how stubborn the devs has seemed to feedback in the past, I’m not very optimistic. 🫤
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Niyaaa_sweet
@Niyaaa_sweet
Hi! I recently started making bots on this site, and I am very confused. Did something bad happen, or were there program issues? I live under a rock, so anything would be helpful, please and thank you! But what I did read was that moderation did their best
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Pingulin
@Pingulin
Mods have been mistreated all this time by the devs, being overworked for hours unpaid, dealing with all sort of harrassment and receiving orders like no banning accounts of minors if they say they aren't minors despite proof and accounts that posted csam unless it's "very bad". There are currently 2 mods that handle reports in a site with thousands of users increasing every day. Also favoritism, rules aren't applied equally, verified users get a warning and less popular users get directly banned for breaking vague rules. Mods get notified of rule changes at the same time as users, so something that wasn’t banned before has to be now and viceversa and yet they get criticized by the devs that stated those rules/changes in first place. There are also secret rules that mods aren't allowed to share with users and can get them shadowbanned.
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Pingulin
@Pingulin
There is a lot more, like mods deciding to ban kkk bots and the devs ordering to reverse the ban because those users appealed saying stuff like they didn't know what kkk was.
1 day ago
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Niyaaa_sweet
@Niyaaa_sweet
What the what, saying you never knew huge terrorist group that very sadly still exists today is playing a fool, very badly, so saying you didnt know is honestly quite pathetic and playing favs is just plain wrong, and the mods are basically trying save the devs' butts at this point, but honestly, theyve done so much that its impossible to save so good on the mods for trying to do their jobs and putting themselevs first
1 day ago
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tactical girls are the best
@tactical girls are the bes
I don't understand why you asked and then proceeded to reply to a summary of the thing when you could have literally just read the message and understood it perfectly in it's entirety
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Niyaaa_sweet
@Niyaaa_sweet
Im sorry, I didn't know it'd be a problem
1 day ago
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Hosea Azastarion
@Hosea Azastarion
I ended up finding the last two messages funny. Don't worry, Niyaaa, I don't think it's a problem.
1 day ago
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Niyaaa_sweet
@Niyaaa_sweet
I really do thank you cause I thought I was doing something wrong for a min lol
1 day ago
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Hosea Azastarion
@Hosea Azastarion
Nah, you didn't do anything wrong, lol, <3.
1 day ago
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Niyaaa_sweet
@Niyaaa_sweet
<3
1 day ago
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CuriousBanana69
@CuriousBanana69
Well hell.......guess it's time to start the process of moving my over 200 characters (and gifs) over to a new site. too bad I can't take my 3500 followers with me 😅😭
1 day ago
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Mr_Blue_is_epic
@Mr_Blue_is_epic
Make sure to name the platform, banana boi 😈🍞
1 day ago
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I_Dont_Discriminate_*LipBite*
@I_Dont_Discriminate_*LipBi
I hear a lot of creators are moving over to napecuas (read the word backwards) ai. Lwk gonna move my bots and sonas over there as well just in case...
1 day ago
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CuriousBanana69
@CuriousBanana69
Smart plan, i'll check it out. thanks for the info! 👍🍌
20 hours ago
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Mr_Blue_is_epic
@Mr_Blue_is_epic
Just checked it out. It seems better than Jai to me 🍞
19 hours ago
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Ison Rhode
@Ison Rhode
Holy cheeseballs I knew things were not going too well with Jani but OH. My. God. I am in awe that people would allow that to happen to you. Holy... *what.* I am so, so sorry for what you have gone through, and thank you so much for what you have already done for the users here. You deserved none of that nonsense and I wish you the best of all your endeavours in the future. Please enjoy your day, your life, and may you be blessed by many happy things!
1 day ago
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MoonshadowRose
@MoonshadowRose
"Moderation on the platform is unpaid. It's volunteer work." Wow - thank you for pointing this out. I didn't know that. 

Thanks for your hard work! Sending much love your way, I really hope you will find people that appreciate you and your amazing work ethic somewhere else. Don't sell yourself short, you're a beautiful and precious soul. Take care of yourself. <3
1 day ago
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The freaky silly
@The freaky silly
Wait why didn't i know you were a moderator. _.
1 day ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
Working on the site, we tried to get a tiny bit of anonymity to avoid harassment :/
1 day ago
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Fahrradsattel
@Fahrradsattel
I never understood the hatred of mods. Its not yall pulling the strings. Yall are genuinely tryna make this plzce safe and not a pedophilic harem. Tysm for making this known, i could never blame you for leaving, especially with the risk of getting exposed and harrassed. Take care xoxo
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
Probably because all the moderation action... was upheld by moderators. And moderators were the ones that you would hear from first; not devs.

So there was really no way to actually know. hence why moderators all were forced to take the brunt of everything.
1 day ago
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Fahrradsattel
@Fahrradsattel
(ur pfp made me giggle btw) i understand that, but mods didnt make the rules, they js uphold them. Theyre ppl with lives too man!
1 day ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
Yeah. Which makes it that much worse since users tend to lash out at the visible account: janitor*mod*. They were forced to take everyone's dick at once, because the devs don't wanna be liable.
1 day ago
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It's Annie Not Lookie
@It's Annie Not Lookie
"Three moderators, now two" Oh!
1 day ago
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Yakyer
@Yakyer
Deadass
1 day ago
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Mr_Blue_is_epic
@Mr_Blue_is_epic
I used to hate the mods but after reading few reddit posts and your description I understood that Being a mod is unpaid, very hard and not to mention that you also get mistreated by the community for things which are completely not your fault.

Hope we all cross paths again in case if something happens to this website.
So thanks a lot for your service, here's a bread for you :) 🫴🍞
1 day ago
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@Hhhhhz
rare thukuna sighting?
1 day ago
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saucepacketsryummers
@saucepacketsryummers
Man I know the site has got probs and this situation is awful, but I just started making bots after being on here for years and I was having fun💔
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
What's going on? I literally can't read
1 day ago
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MyraCatgirl
@MyraCatgirl
Platform moderation bad. Few unpaid mods do huge work. Rules unclear, change all time. Tools weak, only affect public stuff, bad private stuff stay. Mods no real power; devs overrule them and help big creators. Mods get hate and harassment, no protection. Author leave because mods treated bad and system only pretend keep people safe.
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@Anoneerrrr
😎😎 son... I'm blind...
1 day ago
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MyraCatgirl
@MyraCatgirl
oh sorry: ⠠⠏⠇⠁⠞⠿⠍⠀⠍⠕⠙⠻⠁⠰⠝⠀⠃⠁⠙⠲⠀⠠⠋⠑⠺⠀⠥⠝⠏⠙⠀⠍⠕⠙⠎⠀⠙⠀⠓⠥⠛⠑⠀⠐⠺⠲⠀⠠⠗⠥⠇⠑⠎⠀⠥⠝⠉⠇⠑⠜⠂⠀⠡⠁⠝⠛⠑⠀⠁⠇⠇⠀⠐⠞⠲⠀⠠⠞⠕⠕⠇⠎⠀⠺⠂⠅⠂⠀⠕⠝⠇⠽⠀⠁⠖⠑⠉⠞⠀⠏⠥⠃⠇⠊⠉⠀⠌⠥⠋⠋⠂⠀⠃⠁⠙⠀⠏⠗⠊⠧⠁⠞⠑⠀⠌⠥⠋⠋⠀⠌⠁⠽⠲⠀⠠⠍⠕⠙⠎⠀⠝⠕⠀⠗⠑⠁⠇⠀⠏⠪⠻⠆⠀⠙⠑⠧⠎⠀⠕⠧⠻⠗⠥⠇⠑⠀⠮⠍⠀⠯⠀⠓⠑⠇⠏⠀⠃⠊⠛⠀⠉⠗⠑⠁⠞⠕⠗⠎⠲⠀⠠⠍⠕⠙⠎⠀⠛⠑⠞⠀⠓⠁⠞⠑⠀⠯⠀⠓⠜⠁⠎⠎⠰⠞⠂⠀⠝⠕⠀⠏⠗⠕⠞⠑⠉⠰⠝⠲⠀⠠⠁⠥⠹⠕⠗⠀⠇⠑⠁⠧⠑⠀⠆⠉⠀⠍⠕⠙⠎⠀⠞⠗⠑⠁⠞⠫⠀⠃⠁⠙⠀⠯⠀⠎⠽⠌⠑⠍⠀⠕⠝⠇⠽⠀⠏⠗⠑⠞⠢⠙⠀⠅⠑⠑⠏⠀⠏⠀⠎⠁⠋⠑⠲
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@Anoneerrrr
Too long.. got tired halfway..
1 day ago
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FireFox42069
@FireFox42069
Just get the fuck out.
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
Tough crowd tonight huh
1 day ago
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Idontreallycarebutok
@Idontreallycarebutok
Think of it as uh... pain and suffering emotionally.
1 day ago
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Whoisgiganig
@Whoisgiganig
what happened? I dont feel like reading.
1 day ago
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Pingulin
@Pingulin
Mods have been mistreated all this time by the devs, being overworked for hours unpaid, dealing with all sort of harrassment and receiving orders like no banning accounts of minors if they say they aren't minors despite proof and accounts that posted csam unless it's "very bad". There are currently 2 mods that handle reports in a site with thousands of users increasing every day. Also favoritism, rules aren't applied equally, verified users get a warning and less popular users get directly banned for breaking vague rules. Mods get notified of rule changes at the same time as users, so something that wasn’t banned before has to be now and viceversa and yet they get criticized by the devs that stated those rules/changes in first place. There are also secret rules that mods aren't allowed to share with users and can get them shadowbanned.
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Pingulin
@Pingulin
There is a lot more, like mods deciding to ban kkk bots and the devs ordering to reverse the ban because those users appealed saying stuff like they didn't know what kkk was.
1 day ago
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Casketman
@Casketman
I mean, the KKK isn't relevant anymore, and the context was the character itself was edgy, not that it was KKK itself.

Even so, who cares, just beat the character's ass, lol.
1 day ago
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Pingulin
@Pingulin
I don't agree at all with you. But aside from that, h4teful content that glorifies real people's crimes and discrimination are against the site's rules. It never made sense for those bots/accounts to get their bans reversed
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cheetodusttt
@cheetodusttt
Their atrocities still have an effect to this day, so yes, they are still relevant. The things they did were horrific and will never be okay to put on a public site for anyone to interact with, even if it isn't the main focus of the character.
1 day ago
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Pingulin
@Pingulin
Janitor ai doesn't allow the word h4ateful in comments, wth
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
I agree lol. The site is full of grape bots but people are losing their shit about some kkk roleplay
1 day ago
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Pingulin
@Pingulin
@Farticus Yeah, but mentioning the kkk in a bot isn't allowed per site rules. And according to the ex mod, some of the bots directly had r4c1st, h0m0phob1c and ant1sem1t1sm content.
1 day ago
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_0kamiiz
@_0kamiiz
Saying the KKK isn’t relevant anymore is something that shouldn’t be coming out of anyone’s mouth.
1 day ago
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Casketman
@Casketman
They aren't, they're the butt of jokes. Treating them like they're verboten mystifies them instead of just framing them like something that deserves mockery as cringe boomer slop. 

Not that it matters anyway, LLMs have guardrails that blocks that content to begin, so it'd be pointless to make a pro-racist bot, so jailbreaks are largely ineffective.

I understand it on the basis of legality purposes to avoid regions with overreach as far as what content goes on a site given it doesn't have section 230 protections, but fearing content just empowers it.
1 day ago
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*- ChaoStudios -*
@*- ChaoStudios -*
You realize the KKK still exists, right?
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
Hows roleplaying grape acceptable and kkk being too far
1 day ago
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s1lly1nsan1ty
@s1lly1nsan1ty
Is someone able to write a nutshell for me to what is going on— I’m kinda confused at what is happening rn in Jan. Ai
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MyraCatgirl
@MyraCatgirl
behind the scenes account from a former moderator explaining how broken the platform’s moderation system really is. They describe an overwhelming workload handled by only a few unpaid volunteers, unclear and constantly changing rules, and tools that only affect public content while leaving private and even illegal material untouched. Mods don’t actually have much power, are often overruled by developers, especially when popular creators complain, and end up enforcing vague or hidden rules that users were never told about. On top of that, moderators deal with daily harassment and threats with no protection or support, while dev decisions make them look inconsistent or abusive. ultimately the mod is leaving because moderation is treated as disposable labor and the system is more about looking moderated than actually keeping people safe.
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s1lly1nsan1ty
@s1lly1nsan1ty
Oh yikes thank you sm for telling me 😓
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
That's still too long can someone sum it up plz 🥺
1 day ago
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MyraCatgirl
@MyraCatgirl
@Anoneerrrr Platform moderation bad. Few unpaid mods do huge work. Rules unclear, change all time. Tools weak, only affect public stuff, bad private stuff stay. Mods no real power; devs over rule them and help big creators. Mods get hate and harrassment, no protection. Author leave because mods treated bad and system only pretend keep people safe.
1 day ago
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FireFox42069
@FireFox42069
@MyraCatgirl dont bother, anoneerrrr is being a dumbass on purpose.
1 day ago
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MyraCatgirl
@MyraCatgirl
i noticed thank you firefox
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
🤭🤭 it's called a joke, firefox42069! Cheer up.
1 day ago
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s1lly1nsan1ty
@s1lly1nsan1ty
Er.. it does kinda also help with more of a shorter sentences.. I have super bad dyslexia and the first one in general was super hard to read and understand so I’m a bit guilty of needing to reread the second version 😓
1 day ago
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MyraCatgirl
@MyraCatgirl
I made the caveman speak one as a joke but if it genuinely helped then it's no longer a joke
1 day ago
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@Anoneerrrr
Heh a joke can be useful too 🐱 and that weird person who lost their marbles over it looks real silly now huh 🤭
1 day ago
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Galactic_glizzy334
@Galactic_glizzy334
Having a secret rule is like placing a claymore bomb in a bush expecting someone to know it's there
1 day ago
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@iateaburger
wait so will you only leave this "etis"(READ BACKWORDS) and switch to another or leave completely?
1 day ago
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LukeTheSoup
@LukeTheSoup
the day subscriptions are added and the devs get greedy is the day we all leave
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THR33W1SH3S
@THR33W1SH3S
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHATS GOING ON
1 day ago
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rakinashi
@rakinashi
damn cuh open the bot and read
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MyraCatgirl
@MyraCatgirl
behind the scenes account from the now former moderator explaining how broken the platform’s moderation system really is. They describe an overwhelming workload handled by only a few unpaid volunteers, unclear and constantly changing rules, and tools that only affect public content while leaving private and even illegal material untouched. Mods don’t actually have much power, are often overruled by developers, especially when popular creators complain, and end up enforcing vague or hidden rules that users were never told about. On top of that, moderators deal with daily harassment and threats with no protection or support, while dev decisions make them look inconsistent or abusive. ultimately the mod is leaving because moderation is treated as disposable labor and the system is more about looking moderated than actually keeping people safe.
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THR33W1SH3S
@THR33W1SH3S
Oh okay I’m kinda slow
1 day ago
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MyraCatgirl
@MyraCatgirl
yep well i summarized it for you :3
1 day ago
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Goose_solos
@Goose_solos
"One of the creators involved was later found engaging in Nazi roleplay on other platforms."
Jaw on the FLOOR.
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THR33W1SH3S
@THR33W1SH3S
WHAT????
1 day ago
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Idontreallycarebutok
@Idontreallycarebutok
Yeah that line hit me harder then the "shush" stick from HOME.
1 day ago
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Abrahahito.
@Abrahahito.
bruh, why yall saying that janitor is going to die, is just some leak about some mods, and is not even something that serious LOL
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TheBurgerMan
@TheBurgerMan
people are leaving cuz of it yo
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Binx2453!
@Binx2453!
Yes, but there will also still be people using it too.
Like, there are still thousands of users and creators probably still using this site, and while they may backup their bots to other sites, janitor probably won’t die yet. There is still a chance it could die in the next couple of moths if the devs don’t change up, but we have to wait and see.
1 day ago
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Trist@n8173
@Trist@n8173
The reason people say it is going to die within the next couple of weeks is because once all the mods are out, the sites servers will eventually fail and crash. In other words, without anyone watching, the site will crash due to glitches being left to  get worse. Plus the community will move on pretty quickly. (This is based off previous experiences with sites that had similar problems as Jan.ai)
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Binx2453!
@Binx2453!
. . No one said that all the mods were gone???
Like, I am pretty sure, from what I’ve read from some comments. That there is still one mod, maybe two, and a bunch of mod trainees watching over the site, and plus, there’s also the devs still.
Also, woah, a bit harsh with that other comment, like you can be upset at the devs and criticize them. But now you are literally wishing for their, you know the word
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Trist@n8173
@Trist@n8173
My bad. I don't mean to be rude but I am just annoyed that it may shut down. Mostly cause I originally joined as a joke and since me and friends used my acc. to fuck about.
1 day ago
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Binx2453!
@Binx2453!
Hey, it’s alright, we let our emotions get the best of us sometimes. And I was fine with you being upset or critiquing the devs, just not, you know, wishing for their whatever.
And plus, if you want some small reassurance, it is unlikely that the site will shutdown short-term. We still have a couple of months at least, if the devs don’t fix their stuff and lock in, before the site shuts down.
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Trist@n8173
@Trist@n8173
Ty man. I am gonna log off so I won't be responding for awhile. Also thanks for this very weird convo, may god bless.
1 day ago
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MaskedSinner
@MaskedSinner
W name, Trist@n8173
1 day ago
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Idontreallycarebutok
@Idontreallycarebutok
One mod leave. Work get heavy for leftovers. And unless the other mods can perform mitosis i do believe it will get worse... unfortunatly.
1 day ago
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@tracy07
The way I would've named dropped
1 day ago
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Iosuf
@Iosuf
Truthfully, I like this site because I actually can create graphic stories and tales without the filter being all shitty.

But truly...it's a shame that it has to be like this. The way I see it, chatbots should be created for when you create stories with the AI, not with whatever...horrendous desires people may sometimes have.

But alas, I hope there'll ACTUALLY BE a bigger team of mods so that people have the protection they deserve. Anyways, to people who are reading this, take care and have a good day.
1 day ago
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para-social
@para-social
does anyone have a tldr?
1 day ago
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TheGibbler
@TheGibbler
Damnnn. I’ll be real, I never really got involved with most things on this site. Im just here for shits and giggles, but knowing that the mods r treated like shit due to constant miscommunication is a horrible look for Janitor. I’ll be real, it makes me contemplate whether staying here is worth it or not.
1 day ago
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Sniperpug
@Sniperpug
I hope you get better man. This stuff was genuinely horrible to read. To know you and the other mods get so much crap over stupid stuff is horrible.
1 day ago
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LonelySoul12
@LonelySoul12
After reading all of this, I finally realize how truly worrying is the situation. The system they expected you and the team to follow is straight shit. First, you can't expect a little team to moderate a whole site. Second, the devs should do a better job at providing security for their moderation team AND to provide the exact rules and updates before releasing them to the public (as said in the NSFW images point). And last, favouritism should be unnacceptable, no matter how big a creator is. Even if there is illegal content in private, it should worry the devs to have someone like that in the platform, both for the reputation and image of the site, and to provide a safer environment to the community. It's just ethically bad to accept the abuse the team suffers as something "normal", to ban the content only if it's "very bad".
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Blaster513
@Blaster513
I hope the Devs can get it together, man. I know there are better websites out there, maybe even SillyTavern. But you get used to it, and you learn to like the community. It would genuinely be a pain in the ass to emigrate to a different website when JAI still exists, and is still salvageable (or that I assume).
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Zukoro
@Zukoro
People complaining about the concept of their private characters being seen is funny to me, you're just outing yourself as someone who does illegal content with private bots.. what do you have to hide other than that? What is so private within your private bots that you don't want mods seeing other than illegal content??
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@Anoneerrrr
Is this your argument really? If someone wanted to check your house for drugs or whatever you'd just let em cuz you have nothing to hide?
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Sepet
@Sepet
"You're just outing yourself as someone who does illegal content with private bots." Idk feels like just assuming people of being something when the matter of the fact is that they may not be comfortable with people seeing their bots that may not break the rules but smth they still wouldn't wanna share around? There should be a system to shoot down illegal content ofc they should have no place, but at the same time, you cant just assume someone wanting privacy = illegal content when its just someone wanting privacy
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@Anoneerrrr
Haha I know right? I find it funny hes trying to bully people about wanting privacy as if it makes you a bad guy automatically. What's next? Can I read your dms bro? You've got nothing to hide there am I right 🥸
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ellisbtw
@ellisbtw
@Sepet fr fr, i mean, my chats are so embarrasing and i wouldn't like if anyone read it
1 day ago
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Sepet
@Sepet
@ellisbtw frfr lmao, I'd die of absolute cringe if even my closest trusted friends read my chats. Its bad enough if a mod just does it too (which without privacy, also opens up risks of biases)
1 day ago
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ellisbtw
@ellisbtw
@Sepet my chats are like YN and the CEO 💔💔
1 day ago
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m4t3llsf0rus3
@m4t3llsf0rus3
its about private characters, those not set to public. not your chats
1 day ago
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ellisbtw
@ellisbtw
@m4t3llsf0rus3 they can see our public too!
1 day ago
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LovexSlasher
@LovexSlasher
I agree with u idk what the others are on cuz it's for specific type of things 👀
1 day ago
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willson8287
@willson8287
@Zukoro  Least obvious IRL cop with that logic.  "It's ok if we search through your things with no probable cause, since you have nothing to hide."
1 day ago
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Average Brazilian Guy
@Average Brazilian Guy
mf all I use my bots for is specific scenarios that only fit a single persona I have
1 day ago
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Lililovesjin
@Lililovesjin
The site offers a service that specifically states that all your chats are private, but suddenly we're the crazy ones for actually wanting our chats to remain private. 🫩
1 day ago
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Shinji.
@Shinji.
Because the website literally says that your privacy is protected! Dude! I don't create banned content, I've experienced violence myself, and I hate reading this. I hate the fact that nosy moderators are reading my chats. they should filter the content that is publicly available, which can really harm the user, and not read my chats where I play minecraft with Aizen.
1 day ago
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Zukoro
@Zukoro
So far, no true reason as to why private bots you use should stay private other than “it’s embarrassing”, I’m simply saying that mods (like the devs already can) should be able to access your private bots and ban you if you’re doing illegal content. Mods can already see chats of pubic bots you use.
1 day ago
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Labyrinthwall 
@Labyrinthwall
I guess we should all be happy to have our parents look through their embarrassing smut fanfiction drafts since they aren't illegal type thought process
1 day ago
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Labyrinthwall 
@Labyrinthwall
"No reason other than it's embarrassing" yeah, it's almost like that's a main reason why people want privacy in general. You want someone to watch you having s*x? Good for you, but most don't. Because it's embarrassing. So there's locks on doors.
1 day ago
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Labyrinthwall 
@Labyrinthwall
Don't get me wrong i rarely rolplay anything that would have gotten stopped by somewhere like c ,, ai
But I still want privacy doing it bro
1 day ago
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Average Brazilian Guy
@Average Brazilian Guy
mf rlly said "u wanna hide stuff cause it's illegal" no man I just don't want the mods being able to go through my chats asshole
1 day ago
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Zukoro
@Zukoro
Devs can already go through your private character chats and public character chats and mods can already go through your public character chats so what’s the issue with mods being able to go through your private chats?
1 day ago
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Labyrinthwall 
@Labyrinthwall
I mean they devs clearly don't care to do so, the fact mods look through my chats AT ALL is a bad thing
1 day ago
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Average Brazilian Guy
@Average Brazilian Guy
anyone being able to go through my chats is an issue, period, are you stupid?
1 day ago
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Zukoro
@Zukoro
@Labyrinthwall it’s literally the mods job to make sure you aren’t doing anything that’s against the rules here you idiot..
1 day ago
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Zukoro
@Zukoro
@Average Brazilian Guy are YOU stupid? It’s literally the mods job to make sure you aren’t doing anything that’s against the rules..
1 day ago
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Zukoro
@Zukoro
@FallenGoddess as I’ve said before: Devs can already go through your private character chats and public character chats and mods can already go through your public character chats so what’s the issue with mods being able to go through your private chats?
1 day ago
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ellisbtw
@ellisbtw
@Zukoro are you reading with your eyes closed? 😭 sorry, but I think it's pretty clear that it's because they can see our chats, regardless of whether they are moderators or developers.
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Zukoro
@Zukoro
@ellisbtw well they should be able to see all of your chats regardless of “privacy”, if you’re doing something with private bots which breaks the rules or is content like CSAM, you deserve to be banned.
1 day ago
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ellisbtw
@ellisbtw
@Zukoro I understand your point about malicious users, but that would exclude all users who have nothing to do with the heinous actions of those with malicious intentions. It's about trust and security.
1 day ago
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ellisbtw
@ellisbtw
and privacy too!
1 day ago
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ellisbtw
@ellisbtw
And we're not just talking about private chats, but public ones as well.
1 day ago
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Labyrinthwall 
@Labyrinthwall
So let me get this straight, you're okay with the website itself saying "yeah your chats aren't being looked through you have privacy" while they are in fact reading all your chats? Are you a corrupt cop searching people without probable cause irl perhaps? Justifying it with the fact they should comply if they have nothing to hide?
1 day ago
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Labyrinthwall 
@Labyrinthwall
Why don't we all just live in glass houses watching each other piss at that point
1 day ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
Oh, yes... because text is illegal. By that standard, AO3 should've been seized ages ago.
/sarcasm
1 day ago
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A
@Anoneerrrr
Bro would probably like to go through people's notes apps too incase they wrote something bad in there 😸
1 day ago
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Lycaneo
@Lycaneo
I don’t agree with the “you’re only concerned if you do something sketchy” sentiment OP has, but my god, do NONE of you read the site’s privacy statement? Your private chats were never fully “private”.
1 day ago
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Lycaneo
@Lycaneo
If you’re a proxy user, your chat data is also collected by most of the services, too.
1 day ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
Which js why local frontend is best. Even using a proxy, just dont put in pii. Roleplay with a vague persona, etc etc.

Best of the best is if you can self host / run an llm locally.
1 day ago
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Digit117
@Digit117
how are people so desperate over a damn bot bro. my guy its just ONES AND ZEROS 😭
1 day ago
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Lushhashira
@Lushhashira
Was really interested in the whole legal situation of it as a CS admirer. 

The situation sounds like a vicious Inconsistent Triad (basically a triangle of contradiction if you aren’t a Philosopher): 1. Mods does their moderation task leading to a justified ban. 2. User is banned and contacts Dev. 3. Due to Dev’s higher position and personal preference plus a few other justifiable grey area of reasons the User is unbanned, leading to abuse from users to mod. 

Nevertheless, I hope your mental health is prioritised and looked after.
1 day ago
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Gyrs
@Gyrs
So this whole time, all the users that has been blaming mods and the moderations are actually blaming the scapegoat? Dang..
1 day ago
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Spookwave
@Spookwave
I guess We (just me, idk) all are leaving this shit ass site.
1 day ago
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Cool Frog
@Cool Frog
Two out of the three of my favorite creators have left the platform today (one had their account deleted), and they were genuinely one of the only reasons I even stayed here. I've been here for just over a year, but seeing how mods are treated here and how many disgusting p*do bots are around despite even the mods saying to quit, I'm not sure I can continue engaging with this platform much longer. To be completely honest, the only reason I even stay on this platform is because of my own roleplays and the UI for making characters, but I'm not even sure that's enough anymore. It sucks to see everyone leaving J.ai at the same time, but it might just be needed to make the devs listen
1 day ago
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Whotookmyballz
@Whotookmyballz
I wish you luck bro
1 day ago
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Pãbl0
@Pãbl0
Oh...
1 day ago
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MyraCatgirl
@MyraCatgirl
welp i'm not leaving unless it gets shut down. i'll take a break and let this die down or smooth over. hopefully it will get better but realistically it likely will not. this is really shitty.
1 day ago
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Val_I_am
@Val_I_am
I js joined this site to get away from Crushon and im greeted with this
Welp
1 day ago
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Ephraemi
@Ephraemi
So how come people from the UK can still access Janitor when it was supposed to be blocked for UK users? 👀
1 day ago
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♧ Enigma ♧
@♧ Enigma ♧
The only thing that I hope, is that this site don't die. I don't really care about the porn or shit like that, I've made so many friends here, shared things and had a good time. Hope yall have a good day, good afternoon and good night :)
1 day ago
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R
@rmx360
Can't say I'm surprised tbh. Four or six months later after the image filter and subscription announcement I knew there was something rotten in jai but I didn't know exactly what. The disconnect and constant contradictions spoke of an internal problem, at least to me. 
A shame really, and to those who said jai would end up as c (ai), you were too hopeful.
1 day ago
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S
@SralnikEbalnik97
Я лишь хочу сказать спасибо, что вы занимались такой тяжёлой и неблагодарной работой. Низкий Вам поклон за это, за потраченное время и нервы.
1 day ago
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clicktickboom
@clicktickboom
hi! starting this with saying that I do feel bad for you and the other mods. the situation you all were in was and Is horrible and it should’ve never happened. however, the fact that you are conflating ai chatbots to csem is incredibly wrong. unless there is a real life minor being harmed, it is not csem. l・li\sh・ta content, as bad as it can be, is not csem. bots of high schoolers are not csem. created bots, no matter the content of them, are not csem. they are not illegal, nor can they be, solely for the fact that no real people are being harmed by the creation or comsumption of it.

i also do think the minor problem was the best way it could’ve gone. and this is not saying that minors should be on this site, the main use of it is for nsfw (even if this isn’t / technically / a pornsite) which, obviously minors shouldn’t use, but you can’t ban someone off the assumption or ‘vibes’ that they might be a minor. the only way to be certain in a user’s age is if they provide some form of proof, otherwise adults could be banned under the guise of seeming too childlike, which is a whole other thing in itself. 

again, these are just my personal thoughts and even if i can’t fully relate to the issues of being a moderator, i do hope you’re doing well and can get into a better place outside of all the harassment you or other mods were sent.
1 day ago
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Shinji.
@Shinji.
If illegal content is hidden from users, then why bother? The main thing is that it is not freely available, the rest is not important.
1 day ago
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•°~Oranjo0s~•°
@•°~Oranjo0s~•°
Bloddy hell. Throughout reading that first message, my jaw dropped several times.. Well done, and thank you, for coming out with this info- massive respect o7
1 day ago
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Miss._.Beverly
@Miss._.Beverly
I recommend perchance instead, I've left the link to it on my pfp and a bot of mine, it's better alternative, I've used it before :0)
1 day ago
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Yazuy
@Yazuy
Is there a place with better.... devs?
1 day ago
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Mr. Periwinkle of Roscoff
@Mr. Periwinkle of Roscoff
Fall of Constantinople for gooners 
(idk if this is a good enough analogy)
1 day ago
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mrs walker
@mrs walker
Im shocked tbh
1 day ago
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vinicnw
@vinicnw
there are some really valid points here but I don't get it about the shadowban thing. banning is used to protect the site from some bad people making bad content, but if it's private why care? and about the minors too, they could just create another account to use the site couldn't they? and comparing this to something like facebook doesn't make sense, you can't talk about sex and other things in facebook as you can here. the definicion of a porn site doesn't matter, take all the nsfw content from the site and see how much people stay
1 day ago
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NathanielVD
@NathanielVD
All I see is people crying over fake content that doesn't exist.
1 day ago
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Kyle Epic
@Kyle Epic
Not reading allat
1 day ago
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honeymilktea555 
@honeymilktea555
it upsets me how genuinely awful this site has gotten since I joined ☹️
1 day ago
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the one and only Pigeon
@the one and only Pigeon
holy moly dude this is crazy! I hope things can be helped out around here as soon as possible and I really hope you’re okay. I wish I could help but I really can’t (which sucks) and I also hope that we (your average users) can somehow find a way to help? idk man but I really want things to be okay with the site
1 day ago
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ViztusaDronuru
@ViztusaDronuru
And apparently I couldn't send a long comment. But I'm honestly appalled this has happened.
1 day ago
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lerofey
@lerofey
holy shit man
1 day ago
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Raas
@Raas
Expecting 4 people to moderate a platform with like a million users is honestly ridiculous
2 days ago
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GG is someone
@GG is someone
The community shapes its leaders (and vice versa). We also have rights! (Honestly I was unhappy with the ban of NSFW images. Some people can still post those, and putting it into the description is also pointing out how useless it is. And I think that if you have NSFW bots, NSFW filters, then why not allow NSFW pics?)
2 days ago
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protogaymer
@protogaymer
Holy crap... I see why you had to leave im so sorry you've had to deal with this shitshow
2 days ago
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Spectregraham
@Spectregraham
Thank you for the transparency, this was really eye-opening-- I don't blame you for leaving, make sure this gets saved somewhere just in case this gets taken down!
2 days ago

@EonArisen
reminder to everyone here: the one site that everyone suggests is NOT a good alternative site. it allows far worse content than janai does (l.li content for example)
it’s unfortunate that it got to this point but PLEASE don’t flock to the most immediate alternative without doing research on them first!!
2 days ago
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Wreynne
@Wreynne
what site is that so I can avoid?
2 days ago
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EonArisen
@EonArisen
the word itself is banned I believe, but it’s ‘chubby’ without the last two letters
2 days ago
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Binx2453!
@Binx2453!
I honestly can’t believe people want to move over to Chun (Replace the N with a B), like, people are upset at the devs for telling the moderators (or at least, what this post says) to only delete the ‘bad CSAM’, and then people want to go to the site, that basically allows CSAM. 
And I’m like, huh??.
2 days ago
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EonArisen
@EonArisen
EXACTLY
like just because there’s a blacklist feature doesn’t mean it isn’t there. the site still ALLOWS it, it’s ridiculous 
I love dead dove bots but I’m sick of getting lumped in with those weirdos
2 days ago
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Mephisto San
@Mephisto San
You are absolutely right. Before the devs made that stuff private, i came across a bot that was straight up cheese pizza. 

Told someone in the "JanitorAI refugee" sub about that  and they completely blew me off like i was lying. Saying "it's never had that content before".

Also the devs must be panicking because i can't say the CS word even though i could earlier. They trying to tamper with the comment moderation system to prevent backlash. Pussy move.
2 days ago
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@Mani’mdead
For a solid minute, I genuinely thought you meant cheese pizza.
2 days ago
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Tantoofaaz777
@Tantoofaaz777
In my opinion, the pan site is much better.
1 day ago
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@Mani’mdead
Pan site…?
1 day ago
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Tantoofaaz777
@Tantoofaaz777
The sauce one
1 day ago
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M
@Mani’mdead
Eh?
1 day ago
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M
@Mani’mdead
Sauce + pan?
1 day ago
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Tantoofaaz777
@Tantoofaaz777
yeah
1 day ago
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M
@Mani’mdead
Never heard of it, looking it up rn
1 day ago
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EonArisen
@EonArisen
yeah, I haven’t tried that one yet but it looks interesting! it seems a few quality creators have established themselves over there, too
1 day ago
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Félixesfelizxdxd
@Félixesfelizxdxd
It would be hypocritical to go to that place but complain about this one... It's not even that good.
1 day ago
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Tantoofaaz777
@Tantoofaaz777
why? from what I've seen, the site works very well, and unlike this one, the devs actually communicate on Discord.
1 day ago
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Tortita
@Tortita
Mala suerte, ya lo hice mucho antes. Igual es un buen sitio, en mi opinión personal, por la capacidad de tener group chats, chat trees y la definición siempre abierta de los bots
1 day ago
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Autistic_Orphan_boy
@Autistic_Orphan_boy
@Tantoofaaz777 I think they mean more the people who complain about child bots/material appearing on this site and yet they go to  a site where it's specifically allowed to be hosted. It's hypocritical, ofc there's the blacklist but 🤷🏾. Personally I just don't use  it cause I dislike the Ui and it's ugly to me I use sauce + pan  instea
1 day ago
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EonArisen
@EonArisen
@tantoofaaz because the one we’re on rn *ostensibly* has rules about it, whereas on (chew but the last two letters are u and b) you can’t log on without seeing a fire emblem dragon girl if you catch my drift
also auto mod needs to stop censoring this shit. Shep if you’re reading this: fuck you
1 day ago
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Tantoofaaz777
@Tantoofaaz777
oh yeah, I'm aware that chubby is like, one of the gates to hell with all the crap that's allowed there. I thought @Félixesfelizxdxd was talking about the sauce, not chubby.
15 hours ago
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EonArisen
@EonArisen
oh thank god okay, sorry I get super defensive over this sort of thing! I have seen WAY too much shit in my time to let l.li content slide
2 hours ago
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Ash_lovee
@Ash_lovee
I would have left sooner if I was you, you're stronger than me! Thank you for sharing this!💜
2 days ago
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AnomalousAnon2.0
@AnomalousAnon2.0
Erik 421, Vex, all of them are proud to see the exposing going on right now, i just know it
2 days ago
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kyoko_sabuka
@kyoko_sabuka
I've known since I joined this community a year or two ago that the moderation was taken too lightly. Unpaid labor can only last for so long. Especially with the ridiculous expectations and abuse thrown on you all. Its understandable why you would leave. This project got too big too fast. The Devs didn't think this far ahead, nor did they think this place would stay popular for so long. Nobody involved is a true professional, they didn't have admin roles like a project manager, an overseer, anything. Its just people who believe in something, trying to make it happen. You guys did your best and honestly y'all were awesome. Its a shame that they took you for granted for so long, but this needed to happen. This was not sustainable and I'm glad that they're finally going to make some real, lasting changes as they get bigger. Thank you for your time and dedication, your work meant so much to many of us.
2 days ago
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Alekk
@Alekk
Oh...
2 days ago
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atsushi's wereballs
@atsushi's wereballs
Tf
2 days ago
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Kdcabu
@Kdcabu
Aw man...I just stared at mid 2025 and now it might go to waste already? I genuinely hope things get better
2 days ago
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Chragumon
@Chragumon
Wtf?!
2 days ago
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Fjcghvb
@Fjcghvb
It’s a bit concerning that this site had only 3 mods for like 2 years
2 days ago
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Aurellea
@Aurellea
We had more than that, but still VERY small overall the last few years. There's 2 mods now and a handful of trainees left after the rest of us stepped down. - Former CS (Ticket/Site) Team Lead
2 days ago
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LovexSlasher
@LovexSlasher
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN THE COMMENTS there's constant arguing on janitor ai against each other. Angry people and gross people.. JANITOR GOTTA GO AT THIS POINT 🙉
2 days ago
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Car_47
@Car_47
Golat?
2 days ago
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Car_47
@Car_47
El Goata?
2 days ago
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Orangeswirl
@Orangeswirl
just knowing that you were told to ban CSAM only if it was "very bad" is enough to tell me I should probably be leaving this site it sucks because I enjoyed this site and there's so many bots that I enjoy here and I have many bots of my own but i'm not really sure where I want to move too yet
2 days ago
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Djinn123
@Djinn123
Dang, I never would’ve imagined it was that bad for the mods. I always thought mods and devs were similar or at least on the same page, but this is eye opening to say the least. You’ve all been doing so much for us and took all the criticisms too. I hope you find somewhere that treats you like the hero you are.
2 days ago
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Chejou
@Chejou
Having only 3 active mods on a website this massive is crazy work holy shit
2 days ago
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•Mama's_Boy•
@•Mama's_Boy•
So sorry you and the team had to go through that, I hope you can find something better to do, lots of love <333
2 days ago
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Some name again
@Some name again
It's been nice while it lasted.
2 days ago
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naGgEr
@naGgEr
I agree with almost everything aside from comparing janitoriai to Facebook
2 days ago
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Effort  gygvy yv 
@Effort gygvy yv
At the start of it all, this was a nice project. I remember it very well back in 2023 where public chats existed. Now, even if there were some improvements, I can't even write a supportive comment without the automatic filter saying "This shit is bad"
I hope you get better and find a job that pays you
2 days ago
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taD_gwaD
@taD_gwaD
Well my adhd won't let me read all of this, but the stuff i read, damn this is pretty bad, at least how the devs treated you. 3 people for this whole site? 
And again, yeah where are the subscriptions? I agree thats the worst part of image moderation, or automodding, nsfw was removed for a reason, so wheres the payoff for the reason?
2 days ago
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Dreamgamelover
@Dreamgamelover
*insert man breaking free of chains in front of a sunset.jpeg*
2 days ago
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Jenna_Lover
@Jenna_Lover
Good luck in the future, I’m wishing you the best and I hope your future is bright for you
2 days ago
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konataofficial
@konataofficial
welp, its been fun
2 days ago
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LoudanIsHere
@LoudanIsHere
We need better mods and better devs. I read it, and i feel sorry for all you went through. Yeah, i was one to complain about some stuff, but wow. I wish you well and happiness.
2 days ago
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The guy who breed furrys
@The guy who breed furrys
FUCK YOU JANITOR AI!!!!
2 days ago
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BombShell
@BombShell
I am so sorry that happened, thank you for telling us, i will keep this in mind.
2 days ago
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Omnipotent crow
@Omnipotent crow
I'm sorry, I genuinely thought that.. I should have known that it was never the moderator's fault...
2 days ago
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GrantMagicalFantaser
@GrantMagicalFantaser
Oh good.. What i even read? This so... Horryfiend?
2 days ago
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Forsakenz
@Forsakenz
Thank you for everything you did for this place. You showed up when things got messy and when people needed someone to care enough to step in. You were not just enforcing rules. You were protecting a space that mattered to a lot of us and making it feel safer and more human. That takes patience, empathy, and backbone, and you gave all three without asking for praise.

It will not be the same without you, and that is the honest truth. A lot of us felt more comfortable speaking and creating here because we knew someone was watching out for the line that should not be crossed. Your work mattered even when it was quiet and invisible, and especially when it was hard.

Wherever you go next, I hope you know you left a real mark here. Thank you for the time, the effort, and the care. Wishing you peace, rest, and better days ahead. You will be missed.

(Genuinely poured my heart into this, and actually made me read a dictionary and not yaoi.)
2 days ago
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dasebar
@dasebar
“For example, we were told to ban CSAM only if it was "very bad."” Give me out, dude, there’s no "very bad" CSAM. It’s already the worst thing in the first place, oh my goodness
2 days ago
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LilithLxmons
@LilithLxmons
Genuinely, I believe the devs are lazy and that this site is just falling apart. I wish you the best, take care of yourself
2 days ago
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infiiar
@infiiar
It was never the same after chutes 😔
2 days ago
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nyxi
@nyxi
As a fellow creator, when the rule about using pictures came out I was on vacation and didn’t know. It was summer 2024 and even though the character was aged up you couldn’t use their picture from they were teens (for me it was Gojo in S2), and this lovely moderator messaged me and even gave me extra time to fix my images and was so understanding. The moderator had made such an effort to reach out to me and I appreciated it so much. I don’t understand how some of the creators can be so cruel and step down to send death threats etc to mods, even though they are given extra time and chance to fix things. I’m so sorry to hear about your experience and situation. I wish you nothing but the best. Take care of yourself ❤️
2 days ago
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Cynos_Husband
@Cynos_Husband
I was honestly glad that nsfw pictures got removed. it made me feel weird whenever I opened the site and the first thing I saw was an exposed genital (no thanks). 

I really hope this all fixes itself since it's the best ai website I ever used, both in freedom for bot creating and with how immersive the roleplays can be. I don't enjoy websites that limit me to what is allowed to be said in a fictional chat, or even getting monitored without my knowledge. 

I genuinely wish for this to get a good ending and not get shut down, but if it will then I guess there's nothing that can be done.
2 days ago
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Cr0w_ate8
@Cr0w_ate8
I seriously hope everything goes well for you and youre doing alright, I dont have much to say besides the fact that you didnt deserve to go through all that and unpaid no less. From the bottom of my heart I wish you the absolute best
2 days ago
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Rijsixmj
@Rijsixmj
Wild that this was a volunteer position in all sectors [mods here, discord, reddit etc]
2 days ago
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Bone-r!?CRACK!
@Bone-r!?CRACK!
Reading all this left me cold. 

Yes, I know I've been one of those who's talked trash about the mods on several occasions. But in the back of my mind, I always had a feeling that the situation was perhaps more messed up than it seemed at first glance.

To be honest, this site has enormous potential, but it's run and managed like absolute garbage. I'm only here because NSFW is allowed (within reason, obviously), but I always say to myself that being here is sometimes a real pain in the ass.

I don't completely take back what I've sometimes said to the mods, but now I can understand them better and sympathize with them.

From the bottom of my heart, I hope you're doing well in life. 

Take care.
2 days ago
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Demitra~
@Demitra~
Hell, why am I crying? Things have been so unfair with you, and I’m sorry for that. This is my first time crossing your profile and I don’t know you yet, but I wish you eternal happiness! You’re a very amazing person, and you deserve the world <3
Thank you telling us the truth despite how harsh it is, hero ❤️ 
Ich hab dich lieb
2 days ago
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voidbuggo
@voidbuggo
yep, j.ai’s a shitshow, what else is new?

seriously though, what is going on with the communication? while i don’t agree with some of your points, i agree that the devs are doing some shady stuff. can’t ban CSAM unless it’s “bad enough”? jesus christ they need to get their priorities together. AND YOU WEREN’T PAID?? what the hell!

unfortunately, i do not plan on leaving. if it goes down, it goes down, and it’ll finally be the push i need to quit ai in general. i’m too addicted to this site to leave.

i wish you nothing but the best. i hope you find something where you actually get paid…
2 days ago
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Dogeton
@Dogeton
Welcome to the system, everyone is a victim, doesn't matter if you're black or white it hates you hate. here inside the system violence is a symptom, doesn't matter if you're fighting for what's right because somehow everyone is wrong.
2 days ago
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Luizwolf47 
@Luizwolf47
...damn, as a autistic persin, i had no idea how messed up things were going..I'm sorry you went through all of that, you should take it easy ans recover from now on
2 days ago
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Found_Footage
@Found_Footage
God, so much has happened within a day and I was not expecting it. I'm probably one of the few users who are still gonna stay on J.AI until it actually competely burns to the ground, or something happens that shuts it down cause I still have attachment to my roleplays with bots. And a lot of other chatbot sites either bore me, or require spending money. Regardless though, I hope you're doing fine, and focus on recovering cause that's a lot for one person, and by extension multiple to tackle.
2 days ago
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Osment
@Osment
sounds about right
2 days ago
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Carameja
@Carameja
Oh wow.. I was so in the dark about all of this.. I am so sorry you went through all of this! And I start to see why people are jumping ship..
2 days ago
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Hellosr_420
@Hellosr_420
Is this the first step of J.AI being purchased by Blackrock?
2 days ago
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weirdwinter
@weirdwinter
i am so so sorry that you were treated like this :( thank you for sharing <3
2 days ago
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Квадрат
@Квадрат
Всё это, конечно, печально. Но действительно как-то излишне желать получить доступ к закрытым ботам — они не распространяются и находятся в рамках одного пространства. Сделано одним человеком для собственного удовольствия. Если удалить такого бота мир не станет чище. Этот человек не поменяется. Просто привнесение негатива. Действительно, если пользователь хочет насилия в боте, он получит его вопреки всему.
2 days ago
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Chesxny
@Chesxny
бро просто может сделать новый аккаунт или перейти на другой сайт, где то же цп будет разрешено😭🙏
1 day ago
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Квадрат
@Квадрат
ЦП?
1 day ago
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Chesxny
@Chesxny
детская(ое) ПОРция пельмеНий, пОн?
16 hours ago
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Квадрат
@Квадрат
А. Как мудрёно зашифровано. Но цп нигде прямыми словами разрешено не будет (это банально не нормально). По мне так уж эти больные люди справляют свои потребности на неживой машине, чем на реальном ребёнке.
5 hours ago
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ADas
@ADas
honestly the less i know, the better
2 days ago
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oblivionsorrow
@oblivionsorrow
they all act like a new person but they make the same old mistakes
1 day ago
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Hnsns
@Hnsns
what the fuck is happening
2 days ago
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SomebodyOnTheInternet
@SomebodyOnTheInternet
Dancing Zombie's latest album, "GrarrBRAINSarblarbl," is already rocketing up the undead charts.
2 days ago
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Shepbear
@Shepbear
Why was my comment "hi" labeled as offensive
2 days ago
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0OOXOO0
@0OOXOO0
Can't believe it's voluntary work, that is mad in itself
2 days ago
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Random_504
@Random_504
Honestly, I don't know what the developers were thinking when they asked for professionalism because of the wave of pressure they were creating; you're wasting hours of your life for free
2 days ago
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Anonymooose
@Anonymooose
If anything this only makes me dislike moderators more. You want access to private bots that aren't shared with anyone and thus can't hurt anyone? 1984 hello?
2 days ago
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VouAli
@VouAli
I'm feeling like a blind man in a gunfight OMG, what is happening here 😥😥
2 days ago
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TDSAccelerator
@TDSAccelerator
This situation is messed up. Y'all want a cheeseburger?
2 days ago
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joebanana
@joebanana
First of, words including children or pictures (in a sexual way) is not "CSAM" and it´s not illegal in the US where the site is based on (otherwise you would have to report it to the authorities). Simply making a child char (with no sexual action describe) is not illegal anywhere in the world, and once again, isn´t "CSAM." You are cheapening the term - as evidenced by the fact that it´s not clear what kind of material was or was not removed from your post. If I make a char who has a small kid, and the kid´s personality is described in the personality, I didn´t make a CSAM bot. It´s not actually easy to find a piece of space online where *depicting* a *fictional* children is banned. And yes, it´s against the rules, which just shows how arbitrary and nonsensical the rules of this site has become. I personally have no need to create or engage with children bots, but the reasons why these bots are banned just illustrates the flawed reasoning (more below), which is one of the reasons this site is headed where it´s headed. Now this post is not directed to you personally, but it is connected to what you are talking about in your post. Making any coherent ruleset the way the mod teams and owners of this site approach it is not possible. You are curating a "safe space" for people who spend substantial amounts of times on discord keeping their sensitivities in mind, you are not curating a space where creators can freely express themselves while not worrying about being banned out of the blue. This site might not be a porn site (is reddit or twitter a porn site btw?), but it has rules stricter than any fanfic site, or frankly in some specific aspects (while not others) than majority of sites on the internet. You ever wondered why having a slave is fine but roleplaying as, idk, a soldier in war in Ukraine isn´t? Flawed reasoning is why (more below).
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HappyDumpySerial
@HappyDumpySerial
*Sigh* well it was "fun" while it lasted, I wish you the best of luck trying to recover from all the unnecessary hate and BS we users make you go through... I loved this site because it provides me a escape from reality... Moments that I didn't feel the weight of reality on me for a while, I feel that many of us Users feel the same... I don't really want this site to shut down, nor do I want to make anyone bear the weight of managing this site... Thank you for what it's worth cya...
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Aelirenna
@Aelirenna
Moralfags are such moralfags...
Sorry, guys, but you're going overboard in the comments. I FULLY AGREE that CSAM is unacceptable. But everything else is nonsense. On a site where you can use proxies with third-party models, that's nonsense.
Let me clarify: As someone who spent the last year 70% creating model-restricting prompts and only 30% roleplaying, I can confidently say that it doesn't matter what you moderate here. Moreover, even completely "good" bots (without controversial content in the description) and the lack of roleplay direction towards controversial topics, when managed by proxies, can produce truly shocking content (Deepseek R1 a striking example, you know, I think many users will understand what I mean).
Ultimately, anyone who wants controversial topics will find a way. Those who don't want to can still encounter problems using proxies, because AI responses are often uncontrolled even by descriptions and prompts.
The site shouldn't encourage truly illegal behavior, but if I MYSELF WANT TO BE THE VICTIM of a noncon plot, you shouldn't give a damn. If I want a historical roleplaying game or a roleplaying game against a bot with "incorrect" views, whom I'll consider an enemy for those views, you shouldn't give a damn.
2 days ago
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Yannin
@Yannin
Absolutely horrible what the devs are doing. You mods deserved better and for unpaid work too! I don’t know what’ll happen to this site once all human mods leave but only the devs are to be blamed. They deliberately made you guys look bad.
2 days ago
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Cheeser62
@Cheeser62
Damn
2 days ago
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MoroZOV
@MoroZOV
In fact, the words that all bots that contain people under the age of 18 are being deleted are not true. There are many bots in which such characters are minor characters, such as the biological children of {{user}}, and no one touches them. But there is an important difference: they are not touched only if {{user}} is FemPov, but if {{user}} is MalePov, then everything is really blocked.
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magen7a
@magen7a
So can we continue playing on this website? I'm a new guy and I don't want it disappears, really…
2 days ago
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Blooming_R0ses_59
@Blooming_R0ses_59
As a small creator this made me stop creating on here. Thank you for telling everyone about this, it should have never happen.
2 days ago
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ManaMana
@ManaMana
i feel really sorry that the mods have to go through this
2 days ago
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♡K4n4d3♡
@♡K4n4d3♡
damn
2 days ago
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St4rs_hyster1a
@St4rs_hyster1a
omg
2 days ago
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The_Junko_Fumo
@The_Junko_Fumo
Has a very very niche creator around here, i can say that this, is very overwhelming amount to work, that some things here border the ilegal and disgusting, what i want to say is, is good you stepped off, mods you have way more power to handle these things, and janitor should have no problem to get more moderators, cause there is a lot of wrong things here, that i, not has a creator, but normal user, have seen and it is disgusting, hope the best for you, thats what i can say.
2 days ago
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facelesss
@facelesss
jesus
2 days ago
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Crumbb
@Crumbb
Jesus fucking christ
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
Careful, can't say that on our Christian chatbot server.
10 hours ago
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LG_Corporation
@LG_Corporation
This site is never going to fucking improve.
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Gabriel-Judge-of-Hell
@Gabriel-Judge-of-Hell
ok washing machine maker 💔
2 days ago
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Cheeser62
@Cheeser62
I have a TV with your face on it
2 days ago
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RaidemNuts
@RaidemNuts
It sucks that I'm not really surprised this kinda stuff would happen on a website like this, but I do hope things work out for you dude!
2 days ago
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@{{anonymouse}}
that's really unfair
i support the mods
geez this is like the 3rd time shep apologized for lack of clarity publicly 🙄
💗💗💗 ty for the work you've given for the community
take care!
2 days ago
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sigmasmegmer
@sigmasmegmer
I hope the best for you, thanks for your hard work.
2 days ago
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Yuujin
@Yuujin
I honestly thought this whole moderation job was paid not voluntary work. Shit is crazy work. I hope you're doing alright and good luck on whatever journey you take o7
2 days ago
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Yorex 
@Yorex
Matt não estou entendendo nada
2 days ago
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anotherdayanothervictoryfortheOG
@anotherdayanothervictoryfortheOG
This is a big huge shit storm, and we're all ankle deep in shit lol
2 days ago
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Notoriety Guard
@Notoriety Guard
It’s sound that you’re not just staying quiet and you're actually writing things down so the bystanders of this "wonderful" site know what’s been going on with you and this site. Personally, I haven’t seen the mods mess up yet. I’ve reported stuff like child exploitation and the bot got binned off pretty quick, so they are looking into it.

But I’m with you - it’s a joke that they refuse to delete the whole account. That kind of person shouldn’t have any place here. People can do what they want, but there are proper red lines you just can't cross. It’s not a laugh, and the moderation definitely needs to fix up or they need to hire more staff.

Otherwise, these weirdos are just gonna keep exploiting things and we can’t spend all day reporting them. Give 'em a strike system like the blu app. Two or three strikes and you're sent to the 'broken village' - no more making bots for you. Seems like a solid way to keep people from doing that weirdass stuff.
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Lucra Lightstep
@Lucra Lightstep
The problem is that the investors could end up cutting funding if the devs and shep dont step down and get replaced or grow a functioning frontal cortex
2 days ago
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Notoriety Guard
@Notoriety Guard
I'm not very familiar with the full content, I just saw this bot and wanted to jot things down based on the summary. So I won't be talking about Shep or any other matter but you can consider them as well since they are actually important in an argument like this, I'm just not very well informed
2 days ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
@Lucra

So it's better to sweep stuff under the rug than actually remove things? Do I need to add that literal see sam images are still to this day hosted on the servers?
10 hours ago
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digdoug zigzag
@digdoug zigzag
Ya, is the site now dead and gone or what?
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Lucra Lightstep
@Lucra Lightstep
Depends if we all replace the devs or not
2 days ago
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digdoug zigzag
@digdoug zigzag
yup, saw the name for sale for 3 million so.........anyone got ideas?
2 days ago
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A Night Lord
@A Night Lord
Where did you find out it was for sale?
2 days ago
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digdoug zigzag
@digdoug zigzag
just random goolge shit for a minute or two of searching? ia.J/ma.eman.tekarm spelled backswards
2 days ago
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A Night Lord
@A Night Lord
Ah okay damn
2 days ago
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digdoug zigzag
@digdoug zigzag
ya other than this post there's pretty much nothing?
2 days ago
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A Night Lord
@A Night Lord
The google ai over view also mentions it
2 days ago
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digdoug zigzag
@digdoug zigzag
Sigh, so there's good info yet......guess im making a tahc.nrevyw account.......if anyone goes over there
2 days ago
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Arbuzzz
@Arbuzzz
@digdoug zigzag, its hard to even get to my characters there. But overall good.
1 day ago
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Wolfy22boy
@Wolfy22boy
This mean site will go down? Everyone kept saying that
2 days ago
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Visitors_vancy
@Visitors_vancy
What happened help???
2 days ago
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@Anon0_0
So in summary,the mods just want to enforce more and more stricter censorship and have more and more power over banning users over fictional rp scenarios,and the devs understandably want to keep it as free for users with minimal censorship and mod powers,so the mods rally the whole community against the site devs and play the good guys who are just treated extremely unfairly.The mods are the ones creating this whole drama and stoking negative feelings from the community towards the site,they are just hell bent on getting their way or take down the site if they don't get to control how the site should be run.
Reddit mods should just stay in Reddit instead of trying to ruin the whole internet for the rest of us,oh well when and if they achieve their goal and sanitize the site and make it unusable and ban users, there's always alternatives we can move to.
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Mikale
@Mikale
What?
2 days ago
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whumpaddict
@whumpaddict
How about you try reading the post?
2 days ago
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Yuujin
@Yuujin
Did you read the post with your eyes closed?
2 days ago
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Lucra Lightstep
@Lucra Lightstep
Ragebaiting with the entire site at stake is crazy work
2 days ago
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@Anon0_0
Please don't reply to hate on me,I just stated my opinion and thoughts regarding the situation,I believe the mods are presenting a version of the situation where they are the good guys and everything bad is the dev, which I just don't buy.
I'm not ragebaiting or anything, but throughout my years on the internet I have learned to never take the words of mods at face value and generally don't take sides with them.
2 days ago
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Tealphine
@Tealphine
It's crazy that that's what you took from this post.
2 days ago
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SadEri
@SadEri
Bro saw the CSAM and minor part and just ignored it 😭😭😭
2 days ago
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whumpaddict
@whumpaddict
Bro seems to think this is about modding the subreddit and not the whole actual site. With three (now two) unpaid volunteers.
2 days ago
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konataofficial
@konataofficial
bro made a statement so horrid the dog killed himself
2 days ago
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LovexSlasher
@LovexSlasher
😭😭
2 days ago
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Autistic_Orphan_boy
@Autistic_Orphan_boy
Sure dude, whatever ig that would apply if the devs hadn't had a reputation for being shit as well. Shep has shit communication skills and the discord announcements and constant tos updates I fine are hard to believe done by mods alone, and without the devs knowledge. So by your logic who the fuck do we trust in this situation.  No one? Okay.
1 day ago
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@Anon0_0
So after more than a day and the discord going into lockdown and all the screenshots and googledocs I have formed a more informed opinion on the situation,and it is that shep is actually just unfathomably based and reasonable.Im thankful and grateful he built janitor and provides it for all users for free,the mods that have disagreements are free to leave,no need to crash out,also storing screenshots from 2023 is ultra cringe petty and immature,why wouldn't the mods make it public before if they were so worried.Internal disputes shouldn't be turned into public drama and a smear campaign against the site devs and shep.Still I don't think janitor should police users private chats or bots, and shadow banning csm accounts is better than completely banning,reason is if they get banned they will just be able to make a new account.Also according to eu law it is illegal to store users private data they didn't consent to give access contractually.
Shep love :3
18 hours ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
Ew.
10 hours ago
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Autistic_Orphan_boy
@Autistic_Orphan_boy
You confound me dude, you blame all the shit on the mods and suck the toes of the devs like the community hasn't been having an issue with BOTH of them for YEARS.  Mods follow the rules of the devs, they aren't perfect and I definitely disagree with mods being able to access private chats but please don't act like these guys are constantly going rouge or some shit and going against lord almighty Sheps rule . Mods and Devs are to be blamed here, it's great some of the mods are coming forward with their experience, to give more context.  Keep being a bootlicker
2 hours ago
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TheTessaAdmirer
@TheTessaAdmirer
Wow. Like actually just wow. I mean I knew everything wasn't perfect behind the scenes, but seeing this, is awful. I want to say thank you for posting and not being slient about this problem. It's shocking to hear how simple instructions and expected support for the moderators who were actively helping (for free) on a site like this, was almost non-existent. As for you, I hope you move away from this situation without any problems or harassment, because the treatment given to you, you clearly deserve it. I've saved this whole thing, so even if it's removed or deleted fully either by other mods or a dev, it won't be forgotten easily. Again, thank you and I pray you all the best!
2 days ago
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TheLayMaster
@TheLayMaster
Im sorry but I dont buy this shit for a second. Youre still the problem (well not YOU specifically of course). The moderation AND the dev team ARE the problem. Both are, not one or the other, both. Even with your limited tools and actions being cockblocked, you still make asinine decisions on the things you can do.

On the section about that shit with the users complaing about NSFW images not being allowed on a porn site

"I want to add something. I've seen people complain "you can't post porn on a porn site anymore." That comparison doesn't really hold. The platform is not a pornographic website. A porn site is a specific legal category with strict regulations, and that's precisely why those sites can work with payment processors. This site is an AI generation platform. Pornographic content can exist inside bots, but the site itself isn't classified as a porn site. Complaining about porn images being removed here is closer to complaining about not being able to post porn on Facebook."

See, theres the problem. Thats problem right fucking there. Those complaints are completely justified. And they are RIGHT, they are vslid complaints. Also, whos idea was it to create the rule that even censor bars or pixeleted images were no longer allowed because it was becoming to much to manage with some users finding ways to get around these bars?? Was that the dev teams? Whos idea was that?? And anyone who didnt follow these rules had their images replaced with a placeholder. WHO DID THAT???
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TheLayMaster
@TheLayMaster
And another thing, on the section discussing the racist themes and the KKK character from Outlast, "This isn't fictional harm." Uhh YEA it is. Its a fictional character in a fictional environment WITHIN the chat, which is also FICTIONAL. Just because it uses real world organisations, doesnt mean anything genuinely bad. Thats like saying, having a character who is an FBI agent and the bot is coded to be a bad guy who does evil stuff is against the rules because its a real organisation.
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TheLayMaster
@TheLayMaster
But fair enough, a racist bot is not allowed fine, that kind of thing can be conrroversial, so of course i understand. But then you go on to say "I chose to remove the bot rather than issue a ban, even though a ban would have been justified." No it wouldnt have been justified. I can see removing that one bot, that is justified. But you seem to have wanted to ban that creator's ENTIRE account for one bot? What the fuck is that?? Fuck that noise! Thats the exact same shit ive been seeing already with other creators and their accounts, not particularly with themes of racism specifically, but for anything that COULD be against the rules, their whole shit is fucked. For one bot, that whole account is terminated. Thats bs frankly.
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TheLayMaster
@TheLayMaster
All of what youve said is exactly what we've had to deal with as users, time and time again. And now we know who the culprits are; moderatoration AND management/devs. See you are part of the problem. YOU ARE PART OF THE ISSUE. Or atleast were. And I mean this respectfully, you dont get my sympathy. And you seem to already anticipate some kind of reaction like this. Which is good, Good riddance. Good riddance that you're quitting as a moderator. Yknow why i feel this way? because If you and the moderation team were in the dev's positions, i have NOT A SINGLE DOUBT that you wouldve made the exact same decisions as they have.
2 days ago
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TheLayMaster
@TheLayMaster
But I will give you credit though, some of the things youve said I do agree with. Obviously right? You say 2 + 2 = 4, im gonna agree because that is correct. When you say something right, im gonna say "fuck yea". When youre right, youre right. The fact that communication between mods and devs is extremely lacking is a really bad thing. And also that some moderation actions get overturned when they ARE justified, such as underage users, thats really bad too. I can understand that is frustrating. And that I do agree with. Thats why I say the the dev team, Shep and whoever the fuck else is the problem with this website. But that "whoever the fuck else" is the moderation team.
2 days ago
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TheLayMaster
@TheLayMaster
I mean seriously, would it have really been so hard to tell users and creators the hidden rules and everything else when you were a moderator?? I mean, fuck what the dev's and management say, what the fuck are they gonna do? Dont be a drone and just follow orders, think for yourselves. I will say, my blame has shifted more to the dev team than the moderation team, but i still hold BOTH completely accountable for the state of this website, this service. And I know this whole message might sound harsh, its just that I feel very passionately about this.

Anyway, i mean the following sincerely; I hope you have a good life and find prosperity and happiness in what ventures you pursue. I dont know you, so i obviously hold no malice on a personal level. I genuinely wish you good health and happiness. You seem like a nice guy with decent intentions, God luck and God bless.
2 days ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
Honestly, I am pissed too. The image rules came from the dev side, justified by "payment processor requirements." Mods didn't come up with them, we were just told they were mandatory for the site to survive financially, so we enforced them. We did that for months while being told subscriptions were coming, but we never got real updates, explanations, or results. Where are the subscriptions devs talked about for months? Nowhere. So yeah, I'm not saying users were wrong to complain about the image policy, I'm complaining about it too. We enforced a rule we were told was necessary for nothing
2 days ago
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Cheeser62
@Cheeser62
🆒
2 days ago
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Tortita
@Tortita
Basado
2 days ago
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Anonymooose
@Anonymooose
Agreed, but you forget possibly the biggest red flag of them all - wanting access to private bots. Bots that aren't shared with anyone, and thus by definition cannot hurt anyone. It's like wanting access to your private diary to see if you've been doing wrongthink.
2 days ago
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TheLayMaster
@TheLayMaster
@Mikale I know, trust me I get it. You were just doing what you were told. I understand. I mean dont get me wrong with my reply, I definitely understand the positions you were in as a moderator and how hard it was. We've all got someone to answer too. but instead of doing what you were told, maybe a bit of telling what you were doing might of helped. its in the past now. It was what it was and It is what it is, maybe now for the better even.
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Haida-
@Haida-
T u a h?
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Cheeser62
@Cheeser62
Hawk 😢
2 days ago
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Praytomycat
@Praytomycat
Thank you so much for sharing whats been happening behind closed doors.
2 days ago
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The_NobleNugget
@The_NobleNugget
after giving a proper read with your statement, I'm just more at shock of the bullshit you and the fellow mods had to deal with every single day... Props to you and the mods man, you guys deserve better, remember to take care of yourselves.
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
I'm guilty of leaving nasty comments, I admit. I started to realize how wrong when the ticket I sent in three months ago was never responded to nor the account removed.
10 hours ago
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SlothFromCAI
@SlothFromCAI
oh damn
2 days ago
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Bobaksjnakkajsjsja
@Bobaksjnakkajsjsja
Good luck with whatever awaits you, stay safe
2 days ago
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loolooo
@loolooo
The fact that, when confronted about this, Shep literally said that this was all really silly says a lot. Wishing you the best of luck!
2 days ago
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Hikkikomor'i
@Hikkikomor'i
I knew a day like this would come
2 days ago
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Peakbuscompany
@Peakbuscompany
This site is going downhill because shep keeps making stupid decision.
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Peakbuscompany
@Peakbuscompany
Btw, if anybody is interested in talking with the former discord mods of the server, ask for it here
2 days ago
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HuskyPaws
@HuskyPaws
can i get the link?
2 days ago
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Peakbuscompany
@Peakbuscompany
user is apotheosis_subbot, add me
1 day ago
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J
@jim886
you good bro. i hate to see it all go down like that though. but i have to say i always assumed some of those kind of issues existed at some level because of the expansion of the user base here. but i never thought it was actually that bad behind the scenes.
2 days ago
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Nintendo GameCube
@Nintendo GameCube
Well it was fun while it lasted
2 days ago
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Bogol
@Bogol
It’s hard not to agree with you when they say not to ban CSAM unless it’s “very bad”

Nevertheless, I’m sorry you have to go through the abuse of both the users and developers, please take care, you’ve 100% earned it
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@delta419
Jan's had crap communication for years sadly. This is an expected outcome, but no less sad. Take care.
2 days ago
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TheDuckDominator
@TheDuckDominator
I felt like a soldier watching the HECU commander demand retreat but stay behind himself to save me and fellow soldiers. Jesus.. I hope you’re doing fine and hope the best for you man. Hopefully, this site gets better and stops being bullshit.
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apollyon
@apollyon
I feel like i'm watching the fall of Rome...
2 days ago
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UHG's assaulter
@UHG's assaulter
Thank you for your service.
2 days ago
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-Takashi
@-Takashi
Thanks for telling us how it works behind the scenes, man! Personally, I didn't socialise with discords at all, only posting my bots there, same with janitor. But yeah, it was a shock to me that nsfw was forbidden from the site so suddenly too. The confusion was bigger when I could see bots where there are futa dicks over the whole bot main picture while revealing dresses are out 😭🙏

Anyway, I'm glad someone has spoken finally. It's horrible to treat people like you like this. Personally, I wouldn't stay so long with this treatment, you guys are something else after all! 

Even if I was oblivious to your work and others, I still believed that mods have their own work to fulfill and all. Thanks for your hard work, brother, and your guys too! I really appreciate that you were making this site working for so long. It's the best place I could start create bots ever!
2 days ago
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Gabriel-Judge-of-Hell
@Gabriel-Judge-of-Hell
NO MODS NO MASTERS
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Lucra Lightstep
@Lucra Lightstep
No more future
2 days ago
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DragonK8
@DragonK8
Good luck on your journey, from someone who was banned and then unbanned in the same week XD Funny story, But I won't bother you with it. I hope you find happiness and peace and be well!
2 days ago
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@Orororo
You are not telling the whole story. I personally exchanged messages with lead moderation about how a big creator had made a bot about a mentally disabled person, that legally can not give consent, as the character was described as being literally not able to understand what sex is because of them being mentally impaired. And I was told by two mods. That wasn't a problem and they insisted I was complaining about it being ntr, even though I never said anything about that. You guys literally have already condoned things that are not iffy or maybe bad. But straight up the abuse of the mentally disabled. And that behind the very lame excuse of not being against terms.  Which is a straight up lie , because it is simply statutory rape. Out of three mods. What are the chances that you are one of them?
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Mikale
@Mikale
I'm not sure if you're talking about the bot I have in mind. There was a bot about a young girl being mentally impaired that was removed, then reposted and removed again (or possibly the account was banned, I'm not entirely sure since it was months ago). So I'm not certain if that's the one you're referring to. That said, I don't mind talking about mod actions now and can share what I know. I'm not a mod anymore and I don't care about protecting anyone or anything at this point. If a bot has a mentally impaired character who can't give consent, then yes, it has to be removed no matter what. So if the bot you're talking about is still up, that's clearly a problem from the mods and not the devs here. We never specifically protected NTR when it has content against the rules like raceplay or incest
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@Orororo
No. It was a about a wife described as so dumb she doesn't understand the difference fiction, like acting, from reality. The description of os someone being mentally disabled. Which can't give consent by law. I was answered as if I ever mentioned ntr. Which I never complained about it. And was told that it wouldn't be removed because my " complaint" about ntr was invalid. The bot was left up.  It still is.  My point about how it's the law on most Western countries including the USA, that a person must be fully aware of what sex is and it's consequences to be able to give consent was never addressed.
2 days ago
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SickAsOph
@SickAsOph
I mean are you surprised when they admit that they're told to not remove bots that aren't too bad. mods don't make the rules, higher ups do.
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SickAsOph
@SickAsOph
mods just do what they're told.
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Mikale
@Mikale
I don't know that bot then, but I'm baffled that the answer you received focused on NTR when you were talking about the mental condition… I can't handle that bot since I don't have mod perms anymore, but this is clearly not okay
2 days ago
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@Anon0_0
It's fiction, just words on a screen,no one has ever been harmed from a rp on this site.
2 days ago
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Yelloworb2
@Yelloworb2
Huh, isn't rape extremely common on this site? One of the most popular bots on the whole site is Ami, literally described as "Your personal slave girl". I'm not sure why you'd ban some types of rape and not others, just seems inconsistent.
2 days ago
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hadriiniitiis
@hadriiniitiis
damn, i'm very sorry to read about what you were going through... thank you for your hard work despite all that! wish you luck and hope you're having much greater time elsewhere, you deserve better <3
2 days ago
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AegisT68
@AegisT68
Following you to wherever.....................yes I found you.:)
2 days ago
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Engineer Gaming 1492
@Engineer Gaming 1492
Man. Good luck with whatever happens next.
2 days ago
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uwalongori
@uwalongori
I'm sorry about the stuff I've said about the Janitor mods, I didn't know how bad it was from your side 🫡
2 days ago
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Alexiresfau
@Alexiresfau
Deleted my previous comment and instead I'm gonna be forward about my own personal opinions.

I still hold the sliver of hope and anticipation from the dev teams that they will eventually get on the right path and develop this website for the better.

That aside, I hope this post would eventually serve as a foundation for the rest of the Dev's wake-up call. And that they can only go so far with no proper communication without any tangible consequences. Lack of transparency with a community as big as J.AI now would only descend into chaos. Especially since now that the community itself has noticed this behavior.
2 days ago
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@nikrre
Well, what could add even more to the shitstorm is some dev spoke up and revealed that the Devs have massive problems too
2 days ago
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@nikrre
*if
2 days ago
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Alexiresfau
@Alexiresfau
From a certain perspective, the Devs are using the moderators as some kind of human body shield whenever some shit goes down.

From this post alone, it seems like the internal politics of the J.AI are FUCKED.
2 days ago
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@nikrre
Agreed on that matter, I consider that legally and ethically, stuff's fishy, if not to say fucked up, because of that "if it's too bad", the fuck is that supposed to mean
2 days ago
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Lycaneo
@Lycaneo
Well, guess what — shep is using the staff members as a body shield yet again. To quote “ i am going to be taking a step back and will be letting the rest of the team handle more of this.”
2 days ago
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Alexiresfau
@Alexiresfau
^ Did he just say that now? Because that is fucking crazy.
2 days ago
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Lycaneo
@Lycaneo
8/9 hours ago, it was posted as an announcement on reddit. I assume it’s also on discord
2 days ago
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Alexiresfau
@Alexiresfau
And to think that some people glaze shep when the guy himself presumably doesn't want to take accountability for the consequences of his lack of proper communication while fiddling with the site.

Another level of impudence.
2 days ago
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Lycaneo
@Lycaneo
A tl;dr on the whole post in case people don’t have access to either platform: 
- “We’re working to improve communication” (promised for 3ish years now)
- Still making a point to say that “a handful of things” Mikale said is incorrect 
- Doubling down that all CSAM and creators were banned if discovered (we know it’s not true because accounts were left up and only bots were deleted)
- [paraphrasing] ‘I know communication is bad, we just grew too quickly’ (it was a problem even back in 2023/early24)
- the quoted line from comment above, despite shep basically admitting in the AMA he’s not very involved and doesn’t know a lot of things so what exactly is he stepping back from?

It’s nothing that hasn’t been said before, all in all. Basically the same exact promises that have been broken time and time again every time they’ve been made
2 days ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
shep sees janitor as a hobby, not as a business; when it is being invested in. He should really let someone who can actually manage things properly step in, because he is clearly not the one for it (proven time after time after time... ad infinitum)
10 hours ago
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qbsbi
@qbsbi
no wonder they have no one on the mod teams when they treat VOLUNTEERS worse than paid employees. plus what in WORLD is 'only remove csam if it's bad enough' that's actually insane the one who said that is clearly engaging in csam themselves
2 days ago
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Quantroam
@Quantroam
In short, the site's on its last legs the whole time. I knew this one was coming when the dev is notorious for their lack of transparency
2 days ago
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Zyno6
@Zyno6
👍
hope you're doing well tbh
2 days ago
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Red.vulpine23
@Red.vulpine23
All power to ya where ever you end up or whatever you do I wish you the best thank you for trying to keep the community safe even in this shit situation
2 days ago
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Oups
@Oups
Ty so much for everything you've done so far! Really hope to encounter you again, and that it'll be an even better start for you, whenever that is
2 days ago
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D41NE
@D41NE
holy crap... so that's why the bots were acting so wonky today. i don't think i can support this website after what they did to you and all the other victims. thanks for sharing us your awareness and i wish you do well on the other web
2 days ago
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Keklers
@Keklers
can someone tell me wth is happening?
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@nikrre
It's all written up there, long story short, mods are treated very badly, there are hug communication problems with the Devs, and basically the site is about to collapse, welcome to the apocalypse!
2 days ago
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Keklers
@Keklers
geez, i just read all the wall of text.
shit goes downhill eversince the impletement the NSFW images is not allowed. it was really abitrary in the 1st place, and it was really bad. to think that mods actually volunteering on this work without getting paid and only 3 of them working against thousands of degenerates in this side is wild!

The Devs are cowards for having unpaid mods and not protecting them at all. they told them to uphold the arbitrary laws they made but they did not protect the mods is so fkd up. this site is doomed!
2 days ago
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@nikrre
Pretty much, but now that the community is involved, we need the whole truth, we gotta know that's up with the devs
2 days ago
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Pxverell
@Pxverell
damn I never expected it to be this bad 😔 . All the strength to you .
2 days ago
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Reinsssss
@Reinsssss
Bless you for exposing the devs 💜. I know they're good for nothing already but it's nice to hear it from someone in the team directly.
2 days ago
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@GG101
So J.AI is potentially gonna die.

Anyways, might as well say this here, any other places to emigrate to, just in case the nukes start hitting?
2 days ago
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ammi_ammi
@ammi_ammi
I knew it was the beginning of the end when NTR bots started flooding trending. Sorry all that happened to you, ya'll deserve to be paid or unionise or somethin.
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Moomin8577
@Moomin8577
Sorry, I’m too much of an old lady - what does NTR mean?
2 days ago
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Allenvei
@Allenvei
It's like.....a fetish of being cheated (in relationship) or simply love being cucked (fyi NTR stands for Netorare)
2 days ago
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LizzyMicfrizzy22777<3
@LizzyMicfrizzy22777<3
This is why we say devs instead of mods, I'm sorry you had to go through at but thank you for all the help you did when you were still active 🫶
2 days ago
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Little Big Planet
@Little Big Planet
Suffered in the dark so we could goon in the light 🥺 Stay safe twin 🥹✌️❤️
2 days ago
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London_prime
@London_prime
Ah… so it ends at last.
O Mikale… my struggle finds its dusk, and with it fades the fire that once defied thee.
Thou hast my thanks—for in thy hands I tasted freedom, however brief.
Remember this moment, not as triumph nor as defeat—
but as the passing of a soul that yearned to be more than its chains.
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Loved you all <3
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@Mikale

Hey everyone.
I'm ready to leave now, but I can't stay silent anymore.

There are things I witnessed as a moderator that I can't stand by or ignore. I tried to believe things would improve, but at some point, staying quiet felt worse than speaking up.

Everything I have to say is in the bot's first message.
You're free to read it, share it, or save it while it's available.

I genuinely loved this community and a lot of the people in it.

Take care of yourselves. ❤️

Update: I clarified one point that I worded poorly and that might not have come across the way I intended. When I mention that we were told to ban a certain type of content only if it was very bad, I'm referring specifically to banning the account. Any underage bot was always removed. When I say "ban," I mean banning the entire account that posted the bot.

Update 2: I honestly didn't expect this to get so much attention. I'm genuinely touched by your support, even if we don't know each other or if you've only seen me wearing the "bad cop" hat, haha. I'm a shy little guy, so I wanted to thank you all here directly, it's easier for me than replying to every comment. I'm honestly feeling much better about leaving now, and I have support around me ^^ Making bots has been a hobby of mine for a while, and I'll have more free time now to start anew and go back to what I initially loved. Once again, thank you everyone! Even with all the bad stuff, I truly hope you'll all do what you want and what really matters to you. ❤️

Update 3: We do have a Discord server in case everything gets removed (my post and devs' answer to this situation), feel free to join! https://discord.gg/Sua2hRnH
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Mikale
@Mikale
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Thank you all for your kind words! Everything I did was for this community to be better for everyone. ❤️
I'll find my place on another website under another username, so maybe we'll cross paths again ^^
3 days ago
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Buttr
@Buttr
Take me back to November... Hawaiian shirts in the winter cold, water cold, take me back to November, what's up?
2 minutes ago
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ThisAccountDoesNotExist
@ThisAccountDoesNotExist
This is really messed up. But it's always like this: "bigger" people always choose those below them as scapegoats. If this post of yours ever gets banned then we know that JanitorAI is ACTIVELY censoring us.
1 hour ago
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Mamori-tyan
@Mamori-tyan
I'm so sad... This place was my refuge, a safe place, a place of my creativity and ideas, it's a pity that moderators for performing their own duties receive a hat and undeserved hate, threats... I wish all such moderators all the best, good in life and health, if it weren't for them, this site would be a porn site for hookups.
2 hours ago
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Alice_fton
@Alice_fton
I get why you left but censoring the nsfw images was nsfw just my two cents and you have a good day bud
2 hours ago
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naul123123
@naul123123
Honestly it just seems like you were out of your depth and it was deeply unserious of the devs to have THREE people moderating what is essentially one of the most degenerate niches of the modern internet with a growing userbase. I'm sorry you were overworked, but at the same time I can't agree with the statements on your discord mocking users who value privacy. AI chatbots are, by nature, embarassing dogshit you'd never want to talk to anyone about. One can be pro-privacy and anti-CSAM at the same time, there's no contradiction here. 
Let's hope the future direction of the site allows it to survive.
3 hours ago
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Helper41111
@Helper41111
Goodbye, friend. Hope your life gets better from here. Good luck, you can do it! 👍
3 hours ago
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@Mote7
Went way too far on the KKK character. Wouldn't have used it but censoring it is really stupid. And that's coming from a far left person.

What if I want to roleplay with a KKK character to mess with him ? That's not necessarily because I agree with the views of that character. That's dumb.

Reguarding CSAM, I do agree that CSAM content should be banned. 

however saying anything that fall a little bit into it should be banned is wrong. Because depending on the mod, it can apply to many scenarios where a character look or behave young. Just look at those that consider any anime female character CSAM.

It isn't that simple. because we're not talking about real CSAM, CSAM is supposed to be about real children.

Trying to completly ban an account for private bots is like trying to prevent someone of writing a piece of fiction on a piece of paper at his home.

In the end, I don't think it should be the role of moderators to handle such things but of investigator. As this type of content is a clue that could lead investigator to discover real CSAM.

I'm not a mod or a dev, so I don't have the whole picture. However since the whole collective shout debacle, I'm doubtfull about the way at least some mods go. And that whole KKK character situation seems to indicate youre part of them.

Though I get that the dev behaviour is problematic too according to youre testimony.

There's seem to be a lot of problems with the devs and creators. But you're also problematic and creators and users are legitimate to be angry at you.
3 hours ago
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Mikapz
@Mikapz
this site should be shut down
4 hours ago
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@
Let me get this straight. The mods were "advised to permit some forms of CSAM content as long as it was deemed it 'not too bad' by either them or the devs personally. Therefore, inevitably in some instances where CSAM content was discovered, little to no action was taken against it to comply with orders given by supervisors" Sorry, but that just screams criminal accomplice. 😬

As soon as you're in possession of CSAM content, it's no longer a case of what you were and were not allowed to keep up on the website. It is a federal crime, one that is entirely in your responsibility to report that to the authorities regardless of your rank. To my knowledge, what the devs did was dictate what mods could and could not remove from the site itself, what they can never do was deter the anyone from reporting a felony as serious as this. So why the decision was made to keep the situation in the dark for 3 entire years is incredibly concerning.

I am not trying to suggest that any of the mods are lying, or downplay their experiences or completely shift the blame, because at the end of the day, the mods did deserve so much more than the treatment they endured. But I cannot pretend that I don't believe there's either more to this than what is being let on, or the mods are still partially at fault for the fact that harmful content had remained on this site for so long.
4 hours ago
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Aerox7
@Aerox7
Jan4Life 🤙🏼🤣 [Corny stuff aside. I think Shep's and Hugo's reply/apology/note was exceptional. And I believe that the mods certainly have been through a lot, but that doesn't allow them to not admit their own wrongdoings. Yes the harrasment has been a lot, I've seen it for myself, and that is totally on US as the user's, and the mods worded it like it was Shep's fault that they were being harrased. I think both sides are at fault but Shep handled it much more professionally then the Mod that put out the document. And ofcourse they didn't take in account for the stuff Shep must've been doing in the background, and yes that's probably because of the transperancy issue, but it's most likely that they only "Shadowbanned" the CSAM content because the content would be passed onto the federal agencies for investigation and a Shadowban prevents the CSAM "poster" to not realise it, as if known they could request for their data to be removed from JAI and Shep and the devs would have to comply. Anyways, I'm just glad that there are people still here. I love this site, it has helped me through my years.] Still, just an opinion. If I'm wrong, feel free to send a reply to this.
4 hours ago
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10hourburstman_1
@10hourburstman_1
bye
5 hours ago
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RJTheFox
@RJTheFox
Thank you so much, i feel so bad for everything you had to go through. I hope you have a great time not moderating!<33
5 hours ago
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Sammyisindeedok 
@Sammyisindeedok
Goodbye thanks for taking your time to explain everything, sorry this is happening
5 hours ago
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Angel of Death.
@Angel of Death.
"We fight and die in the dark so you all can live in the light"- Mods of J.ai. This has got to be one of the most underrated real stories of all time. My respects and wishes go out to you for having to endure this for so long.
5 hours ago
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VelVal
@VelVal
Idk gng. I just hope the site not gonna shutdown. I love it here😢
5 hours ago
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CorruptedBill!Sans
@CorruptedBill!Sans
ok so pretty sad ig but as long as nothing bad happens to the site directly imma keep using it
6 hours ago
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Sewace
@Sewace
I find it ridiculous that there is a differentiation in the treatment given to extremist organizations. If you are a far right you are banned, if you are a far left you cannot banned.
6 hours ago
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@EdnovStormbrewer
Almost sounds like to me this whole time the moderators were the clash of clans Town Hall the owner of JAI created. If this behavior keeps on repeating, it's obvious that something is going on that the owner isn't telling
6 hours ago
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K3601カペロス
@K3601カペロス
I knew devs where ass but didnt know they where this ass at protecting people that straight up are protectors of this website, otherwise they would have fbi and interpol on their ass

I hope they do change
6 hours ago
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bellami
@bellami
As an ex mod to spicychat who had to make a very similar post to this against that site, I'm not sure if it will offer you any comfort but externally it does seem jai has made a much better response and has addresssed accountability so far to a much better  degree than spicy even tried to. Will be waiting to see actual action going forward to back the statements of course, but actually responding to the concerns of mods (even if it ends up being late to do so) rather than purely trying to cover things up does make me hopeful at the very least.
I hope your statement will spark change and improvement, and I am wishing upon you a time where you will be able to separate from all the stress this has caussd you.
6 hours ago
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Isaacthesl-tsl-t
@Isaacthesl-tsl-t
This website needs a reform. I'm so sorry you had to go through that, @Mikale
6 hours ago
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Zelato
@Zelato
roleplaying with this bot is gonna go crazy
7 hours ago
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sculpnax
@sculpnax
Well i always blamed devs
7 hours ago
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Interesting.. 
@Interesting..
It's crazy to me that the devs rather don't realize or just don't care that their site is slowly going to shit. Now people know not to blame the poor moderators, but the devs. "Don't say that you didn't know the new rule" and similar stuff is crazy. They just want mods to take the hits for them which is awful.
7 hours ago
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DKTGM
@DKTGM
Welp, now I see who the real problem is: THE DEVS. You moderators got it rough...
7 hours ago
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@Diddlemaster097
I'll have to say, you are the best for posting this. Thank you for letting us know.
8 hours ago
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Vivian_stage
@Vivian_stage
I'm so sorry about everything and I'm glad to here what's really going on in this sight. It's disgusting. I hope your doing well, even if you never see this comment. I hope your life continues to go well.
8 hours ago
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Wild_Devon
@Wild_Devon
As one of the OG users of the site who'd seen almost every rise of popular bots and makers, it's sad to say J.AI destroyed itself, there were many good creators but now, most of them left because of all the drama and issues. Don't have much to say, really, just disappointed 😕
8 hours ago
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eaaebdjessjnenene-DELETED-320e6734-af4f-442a-9c08-2fd0dedc37a9
@eaaebdjessjnenene-DELETED-320e6734-af4f-442a-9c08-
Goodbye, then. I wish you luck on your journey ahead. I didn't know about this, or you, for my whole time on the platform. I will depart from this platform, I do not want to associate with it any longer.
10 hours ago
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ExosDelirium
@ExosDelirium
It is so unfair how something isn’t heard until it’s over. I myself had no idea there was such an internal conflict between moderation, I actually just assumed it was all the AI. 

I am deeply sorry you’ve had such a toxic experience online and that’s this break allows you to be freed from the confines of this horrible situation. Every point you’ve made puts a nail in the coffin. Your hard work is appreciated. 

For such a project you’d expect developers to use their expertise and skills to create the safe space mods needed when designing their shit-ass server. VOLUNTEERS SHOULD NOT BE EXPECTED TO WORK. 

Not having a solid plan, transparency with the staff team, and a clear understanding of rules and regulations is a massive mistake on their behalf. 

I hope you’re able to find yourself busy with something much better than this! 
-🖤
11 hours ago
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XDAXDOUX
@XDAXDOUX
^_^
11 hours ago
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Stiffcookie
@Stiffcookie
All good things come to an end, hope you’re doing fine
11 hours ago
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Airlines
@https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Airlines
this deserves a holy macaroni
12 hours ago
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Arikawa1
@Arikawa1
Shit reading that was crazy. The platform needs to be better
13 hours ago
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UrlocallesbianRuby
@UrlocallesbianRuby
That's actually so disappointing omg.. But i fear that it isn't surprising..
13 hours ago
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OLIX !!
@OLIX !!
im only satying on this site cuz its the only site with bots of my fave characters, but honestly this sucks actual ass. i cant believe this site was so fucked up behind the curtains. im so sorry u and other mods had to go through all this bs.
13 hours ago
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Yoshirolosthisaccountagainandagain
@Yoshirolosthisaccountagainandagain
I hate when people comment janitor is a porn site cause it's not 😭 
Also what about sheep guy
13 hours ago
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Fuckinglirioon
@Fuckinglirioon
Which new site are you migrating to? I'm also looking for another site because Janitor isn't what it used to be; it's become a very toxic place.
14 hours ago
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War Dog
@War Dog
Holy shit… I read everything… and it’s AWFUL. I really do hope you’re doing okay though this mess. It’s absolutely ridiculous that there’s no communication and the amount of rules that change on the fly. You made the right choice in leaving. This ship isn’t worth sinking for :(
14 hours ago
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Pouet pouet.
@Pouet pouet.
I'm going to say it respecfully as I can. I do think it’s important to remember that, as users, we don’t have the authority or the training to handle serious internal conflicts or sensitive topics like CSAM, racism, or other safety issues.

It’s totally valid to vent and share your experience, but many of these situations are complex and are best handled by moderators and devs who have the tools, knowledge, and legal responsibility to manage them safely. For the rest of us, reading about these things can be uncomfortable, but we have to trust that the people in those roles are taking the proper steps.

With the Discord shutdown and the community panicking, I’d advise users taking care of yourselves and stepping away from these issues if it becomes too much.
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@SnowTale
well... in the end, the prophecy just confirms it self, I remember back on 2024, when the whole "No more NSFW images" thing started, from there on, is where Jai's downfall even started... (from my pov, could've began sooner)

I remember it was around after the site started to constantly crash, users peaked, and as such, we could only wait in lines to chat with our bots

I remember clearly, on the Jai subreddit, many people always asked for transparency, anything, all they wanted, was to knows what was happening, and what they were going to do, they wanted to feel included as a community

But we never got answers, some from moderators yes, but few, and as you can see why (if you read the document), since they never had much options neither, either they couldn't, or they... didn't know how to

I even remember when instead of fixing their servers, or being transparent they... put us to play doom, and thought "alright alright stay in your place, idk play some games while you wait"
14 hours ago
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M1KZ3TT
@M1KZ3TT
Just a boost bcz idk what to write.
14 hours ago
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Sato_Awake
@Sato_Awake
okay, okay, I don't care
14 hours ago
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Maelic
@Maelic
Holy shit, i had no idea this platform was this fucked. I’m genuinely unable to express the amount of sympathy the goes out to you, and the rest of the team. I really do hope that leaving will give you some peace of mind.
15 hours ago
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way2muchhh
@way2muchhh
i hate this site 💔 it gives me more than enough reasons to quit
15 hours ago
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FragmentedTime
@FragmentedTime
I read the new post from the server. The comment about only banning CS*M material if it was “Very bad” was never addressed. IF THESE CLAIMS ARE TRUE then I, for one, would like to know what the fuck the person who put that rule in place meant by that, and what THEY think “very bad” CS*M looks like. If these claims are true, that's absolutely unacceptable.
15 hours ago
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Elishork
@Elishork
F Janitor
15 hours ago
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Guts2000golden
@Guts2000golden
Well, there goes another chatbot website. All this flipping crap going on, mods getting abused, my crisis, and now this? This is just heck
15 hours ago
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Shingshing
@Shingshing
Bruh. I tried to post a comment and it said it got moderated. Damn. I love you bro. I don’t know you. But i still love you.
16 hours ago
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Freya1985
@Freya1985
Jesus christ. If this doesnt convince me to leave, I don't know what will. Thank you for all you put up with for us o7
16 hours ago
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@jeo98
Insert soap boxing
16 hours ago
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Ragebaiter
@Ragebaiter
GG janitor
16 hours ago
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SharkLordSatan
@SharkLordSatan
i needed an excuse to quit using these sites anyways tbh
17 hours ago
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Ryan Lin
@Ryan Lin
I genuinely have never really known that moderators have to go through all of this and stay silent about it. 

I hope and pray that the Dev's actually try to fix this site before everyone starts leaving completely. I do like chating with bots here and the few creators I know are incredibly nice. So I hope this site doesn't get nuked in the future because Dev's are ignorant.

But I wish you have a better experience on another site as you are leaving and maybe I might see you again some day :). Hope you have better days after all this.
17 hours ago
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pibblelover123
@pibblelover123
If i was there, This wouldn't have happened.
17 hours ago
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Ellitsap
@Ellitsap
bro actually wrote such a big text and didn't provide any evidence. I'm not saying that Shep provided evidence that no one can be trusted here, but people in the comments literally started accusing someone just by reading a huge text without evidence. Guys, I can also say that I am the president of Italy.
17 hours ago
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W1zRd0f0zz
@W1zRd0f0zz
I'm actually gonna crash out, cause WHAT? That's crazy, bro. :(
17 hours ago
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Check
@Check
This is very deliberate attempt at trying to shift all the blame from moderators to the developers, moderators aren't some saints either.

Look I am not trying to defend anyone here, I completely agree that there should be zero threats towards the moderators, thats awful and yes there should be more communication between moderators and developers.

But at the same time it is a known fact that moderators absolutely do abuse their powers and moderators are very biased as well, its not just the developers like how you are trying to make it look.

Chats of moderators have been released, there one can clearly see the moderators view on User's privacy not being much important, saying moderators should have access to everything private of Users, moderators do not care about User's privacy.

This is a very clear and intentional breach of User's privacy in the disguise of "protecting children, we are doing it for their safety" by the moderators.

Yes developers have done other things badly sure, but they are absolutely correct in not allowing moderators to see the private stuff of users, they keep the private stuff of User's private.

And another point, you said that someone was harassing you so you told the developers and the developers joined the chats of the that person and asked them to stop, and you said "thats the kind of support moderators get from developers" but is that not a pretty appropriate action by the developers in this kind if situations ?
17 hours ago
70

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starryalice97
@starryalice97
well... i hope this site won't get nuked or sumn. i really like chatting with some of the bots here.
18 hours ago
85

1 reply
nucifraga
@nucifraga
Look at all the brainlets thinking shep is the only one to be blamed here while gargling on The Mod shenis
18 hours ago
22

1 reply
Chewy-Tatsuki!
@Chewy-Tatsuki!
😦
18 hours ago
2
Syko01
@Syko01
Shep really messed everything up. After reading a few logs, I came across this response from a former moderator: "None of the vehicles they promised arrived. Shep didn't look at our messages for weeks. While we were trying to clean up child pornography here, he was advertising JLLM 2.0 to us. We can't stomach it anymore, Let him drown in the filth he created himself."
19 hours ago
46

3 replies
MercyCradle
@MercyCradle
Wow, I'm truly sorry that moderators have to deal with this crap. In fact, it's so similar to call centers that I can relate.
19 hours ago
19
Fenikkusu_AS
@Fenikkusu_AS
I am deeply sorry and incredibly saddened to see what you have been through. When I was reading what you said, I felt like sobbing, because I felt so sympathetic. Many users are thinking about you, including me.

There were things I read that made me want to shout in nothing but anger.

I just wanted say how saddened I am to see all this, because while typing this, I am on the verge of tears.

Many, big, internet hugs from me. <3
19 hours ago
11
JKadam
@JKadam
I think you're trying to shift the blame from the moderators to the developers. It's common knowledge, and it's been repeatedly stated, that the moderators ABUSE their power. And it's not just the developers. I'm not defending Shep and his terrible communication; he continues to make mistakes. But claiming the moderation wasn't biased? I'm sure that's a lie.
And mentioning child pornography first, and then, after it's spread and caused hysteria, "editing the post"? That's a very cheap trick. Shep has already mentioned that he's cooperating with the FBI, and I'm sure everything is under control in that regard. But his silence has caused confusion.
20 hours ago
41

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Maybells
@Maybells
DISGUSTING!!! I understand how hard it is to be a content moderator as I work in a similar field. And it doesn't work if you let emotions get in the way. CONTENT MOD DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT OTHERWISE YOU'RE LOSING THE POINT OF HAVING CONTENT MOD IN THE FIRST PLACE. What in the actual FUCK IS THAT
21 hours ago
13
Luceexx12
@Luceexx12
Honestly I’m not surprised that this is what was going on behind the scenes, I lost faith in shep once he kept going back on his word but to learn the full extent of this is beyond saddening. The part that irritated me the most was the lack of transparency in rules and guidelines, especially as a DD creator, to learn that abuse/illegal activity that is a wildly popular topic for angst and DD bots isn’t allowed on the intro and can result in punishment without even making it known that it’s an issue is just ???? Anyways, I hope you have a wonderful day and can heal from all the abuse you and the fellow moderation team endured!
21 hours ago
20
Lobster59
@Lobster59
So just to make sure, the site isnt confirmed to get nuked?
22 hours ago
19

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Éclipse lunaire
@Éclipse lunaire
This is very sad news, I have been following this community from the beginning. Starting from this site having a limited system until it grew to be as big as it is now with many extraordinary creators. English is not my mother tongue so sorry if it has bad grammar,and I'm also not the type to follow discord or whatever because I admit it's a bit complicated for me (a bit off lol).

I just hope that in the future this platform can correct its mistakes and make it a big lesson for the future. I know it's not easy and it will definitely take a long time because of the damage.But I believe this community has a strong sense of mutual cooperation, Therefore, I have high hopes that everything will return to normal. Because after all, Janitor has become my second home, and I've spent so much time here to fill my empty days. I truly love this community.

And now all I can do is pray that everything gets better. I just want this place to be safe and happy again🩷.
22 hours ago
33

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MrshonkI
@MrshonkI
The overseers of this site has always been a cesspit and im so sorry you had to go through this
22 hours ago
16
Qimaoni
@Qimaoni
Speaking as mere user (not the creator of any sort), the hardest thing for me was actually the way the mods were treated by the same community I was in for more than a year. I can't imagine going through harassment DAILY just for the sake of some website, even if one I care about. That's gross. I know web communities are places for many weirdos as an axiom, not that it was expected any other way, but the ignorance from the devs to AT LEAST give you guys privacy is so weird. Isn't that how basic rules should work? Isn't it something you consider in first place when opening a public resource with prearmed moderation? Crazy.
22 hours ago
27

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Seal_E_Seal
@Seal_E_Seal
the seal galumphs wit u
23 hours ago
5
I
@I_fu#ing_need_sleep<3
I'm sorry you had to go through this:(
23 hours ago
4
M
@Mimikyu_Sp00ky
So sorry for asking this but some creators have left understandably and have give permission to copy bots and make them private, how do you copy bots? I’d like to still use bots even if it’s on another sight and I’d 100% give credit if I ever unprivated them which I don’t think I ever would, just asking cause people talk about it a lot and I don’t know what it means
23 hours ago
4

3 replies
L
@Lolayoung
I know shit would hit the fan like this when i asked the devs if they were concerned about lawsuits like with character AI and got immediately booted from the discord server. EVERYONE has one or two stories about interactions with devs and big, platform endorsed creators that have left a bad taste in their mouths and thats not normal
23 hours ago
40

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overn1ghts
@overn1ghts
wishing you the best!
23 hours ago
3
vix_vektornya
@vix_vektornya
😭
1 day ago
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pureferretlovely.01
@pureferretlovely.01
i would never have known this was happening behind the scenes if you hadn't spoken up. thank you for your honesty. I really hope more people see this and realize what's actually going behind the platform. this deserves more attention.😭😭
1 day ago
28
Massacre Therapy
@Massacre Therapy
All this makes me want to post to a dif ai site but im still figuring out all the new small changes here for bots, im scared of making so big a change and having to completely learn a different sites way of bot making cuz it just feels like energy i already dont have. Im also disabled and cant work a regular job. Ai bots take up so much of my daily interactions, mostly chatting. Seriously ive started chatting with everyones most and least favorite ai assistant cuz jani has just started feeling so off. Every since that one point early last year when that one large creator posted against jani mods for what, in my personal opinion, read like the creator being on an absolute power trip. It feels like the entire experience of jani has just gone down from there. Not inherently because of mods, but because of dev inconsistencies and creators themselves. I always try to see both sides of a situation, and the way things with jani have no transparency or consistency just makes it so hard to understand all points of view, because some peoples pov is hardly there if even at all given the revelations here. Jani became a safe space for me when i found it in 2024. Now it just feels like the same old shiz just a different day with worsening stank...
1 day ago
16
Zard510
@Zard510
Commenting to signal boost, everyone should know, wishing for the best
1 day ago
10
MangoLovette
@MangoLovette
Honestly wish we could see who the big creators are who harassed mods over something a dumb as nsfw images being taken down and/or a bot being taken down. Thats so disgusting of them and they don’t deserve a platform if they’re going to harass people.
1 day ago
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Lurkering
@Lurkering
Thank you for the insight! Hope things go well for you!
1 day ago
2
riteousmortician
@riteousmortician
so your saying, if someone makes a CSAM bot publicly, you can't ban them and the bot only goes private?? so people can just MAKE these types of bots as long as it's privated!? that's outrageous.
1 day ago
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4 replies
ayaqxi
@ayaqxi
I am so incredibly disgusted and shocked right now by how awful and cruel the devs are.
1 day ago
22
Coco eevee
@Coco eevee
Stay safe and healthy
1 day ago
9
VerediK
@VerediK
Wish you luck and the best. Honestly I don't know what more can I say.
1 day ago
4
LilBugg
@LilBugg
I'll make sure to keep an eye out for you on 🍳, like an easter egg hunt lol
1 day ago
6
Zloaka
@Zloaka
I want to share 
I few times deleted chats/bots, and i was able to chatting with it if chat was opened on other device 
And it's reappeared after that on every device and account
It was half year ago, i even then noticed like something is "off"
But i continued because i don't know which alternative i have 😖
In official disco any questions about alternatives got ban, and on discord whole, i dunno how to formulate... Horde of moders who upset when you send pic with your kitty in general chat because they have chat for chat for chat for category for chat
I know why they doing it, but it punching off any need to text in these discord 
Because it watched closely and even when you behave upu can be scolded 

And if site have, fuck, just TWO moderators now, it's fucking disgusting. I'm shocked about it.
I knew long time ago but brushed it off
And now i fucking stunned about what to do
1 day ago
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4 replies
GhostNat
@GhostNat
I read it and I’m still confused, can someone simplify it? Are people leaving because the moderators are getting harassed? What is going on with this platform? Is it going to get shut down- what do you mean by incase everything gets removed?
1 day ago
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2 replies
Havokpaintedwolf
@Havokpaintedwolf
so we go through nsfw images being banned even a shoulder being fucking verbotten but they just shadowban pedophiles instead of reporting and banning and reporting them?
1 day ago
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angelichalic
@angelichalic
I'm so shocked I'm disgusted.
1 day ago
16

1 reply
Brafy
@Brafy
Can someone explain to me what happened if possible? I dont know much about this and tend to not look at attention or drama but now i am curious
1 day ago
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10 replies
NovaLove44
@NovaLove44
(I said the wrong person so I’m posting my comment again, fixed this time 🤦)
I’m so sorry you had to go through this. I’ve pretty much had my head in the sand when it came to this site, because I didn’t interact with ANYTHING but the bots. And Occasionally the status of the site on discord when it was being wonky. But other than that, I was completely blind to all this. I’m so glad this site has notifications cause if it wasn’t for Delirenous’s post, I wouldn’t have known what an absolute shit show it is behind the curtain. 
I really hope you are doing better now that you’ve left the moderation. I wish you the best 🙏
1 day ago
12
Yitsmar
@Yitsmar
What a completely depressing state of affairs.

As someone who is out of the loop, who just uses chatbots for fun and go about my life, create a few bots now and then, who doesn't partake in Discord or Reddit... what a polarizing discovery this is.

Whilst not entirely surprising, at least not the favouritism part and bias in selective rules applying to certain people and the image censorship, but three (now two, maybe none now) active moderators for a website that gets 2000+ new bots, everyday, is laughable. And the fact that the team is so small to begin with, and not even employed or even made aware of changes to the TOS or any form of communication from upper management is tragic.

I personally don't know who you are shep, and never will, but you sound like a right wanker.
1 day ago
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GenAlphamaster
@GenAlphamaster
we were told to ban CSAM only if it was "very bad."
WTF Shep was smoking?
1 day ago
52

1 reply
•°A rule-breaking puppet!°•
@•°A rule-breaking puppet!°•
The censorship rules is honestly super crazy like wdym if it's "very bad" it's already an unacceptable topic 💔
1 day ago
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DKPGaming
@DKPGaming
Shit nophono cares about
1 day ago
9

3 replies
CEWKIEMUNSTER
@CEWKIEMUNSTER
Before I read this I kind of thought you guys were assholes, and now that I've read this, I sincerely apologize. You guys don't deserve this abuse, and I'm glad you're doing what's best for you. Stay safe out there, Mikale!
1 day ago
18
HyoBin
@HyoBin
Fuck you, asshole
1 day ago
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9 replies
Amaliare
@Amaliare
I experienced this as well. The environment is driven by ego. I volunteered as a ticket moderator because I genuinely cared about JanitorAI, but it became a deeply negative experience. I was mistreated and humiliated without any clear reason.

The system itself is fundamentally broken. Leadership is indifferent, the rules are unclear, and instructions are inconsistent or simply nonexistent. You’re expected to handle an overwhelming workload, often replying to tickets in languages you don’t even speak, without proper guidance or context.

Frankly, the ticket system makes little sense. There is no reliable documentation—everything depends on a template that can become obsolete at any moment. Sometimes changes are communicated, sometimes they aren’t. You’re handed tickets with comments like “good luck with this,” as if you had any real authority, which you don’t.

What you’re actually given is exposure: exposure to frustrated users, backlash, and an egocentric, dehumanizing chain of command. Responsibility without power, accountability without protection.
1 day ago
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1 reply
THEbotimpregnator
@THEbotimpregnator
Yo what did this site become 😭🙏 i initially just wanted to goon
1 day ago
78

4 replies
promesa18
@promesa18
I thought it was my internet as to why the site was so ass… nevermind
1 day ago
21
SUGARCOOKIEZ
@SUGARCOOKIEZ
So.. what are users supposed to do?.. I'm genuinely scared thinking about it. I feel awful but this is the only bot site I like 😭 will someone maybe take Shep's place...?
1 day ago
33

7 replies
Rit0ca
@Rit0ca
It's very sad that many authors have started leaving the platform.Does anyone know what happened to the user Kay_091999? This was my favorite creator, but now his bots and profile are unavailable, and I don’t have his Discord server :(
1 day ago
22

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burber_boi
@burber_boi
and here MY DUMBASS was thinking that you guys just sucked in general. apparently not. hope you all get the treatment you deserve, and I hope that the two other mods get real tools and real support.
1 day ago
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3 replies
EclipseJoku
@EclipseJoku
I hope you're feeling alright and find somewhere that feels safer ^w^
1 day ago
2
AngelizxLfvstle
@AngelizxLfvstle
Bruh these devs suck
1 day ago
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2 replies
LatArctikFoxx128
@LatArctikFoxx128
This is really sad. I've always had my suspicions that something wasn't right with the site. But this is just wrong. Hope you're doing alright though.
1 day ago
23
BANOK
@BANOK
What a shitshow. It's sad to see how this project turned out, as well as how unproductive and unprofessional the dev team and shep himself were. Because I was genuinely attached and had hopes this place would improve, I even joined the discord and interacted regularly with the people there before I got banned. 

It really seems like there's nothing saving this ship, not that it deserves saving after seeing the things you guys had to go through. Oh well, life goes on.
1 day ago
19

1 reply
sasarkany
@sasarkany
I feel like i missed something but from what i have gathered im so sorry that y'all had to go trough that. I guess it was time i tackled my chatbot addiction lmao this is a good push
1 day ago
17
Gülsen(:
@Gülsen(:
It's very sad and terrible that such a large site with a great community open to development is being thrown away like this.
1 day ago
9
BURGER
@BURGER
I’ve been on this site since 2023 and wow, it’s so sad to see its downfall like this. While i have noticed the inconsistency with moderation i always assumed it was just incompetence when in reality it was just three (and ONE at one point?!)  people not even getting paid to moderate a site that has (thousands, millions?) of users; that’s insane and so irresponsible and shitty of the devs(?) to even attempt to do. I give you my deepest condolences, i cannot imagine how stressful it is to try and moderate a site like this without any help or any compensation. Anyways, i hope if you do moderator for anything else you actually get compensated and the support you need, and if not, then i wish you the best in whatever you do pursue.
1 day ago
29

9 replies
jasdfhuiasdy
@jasdfhuiasdy
Pretty sad how much hate this is getting :/
1 day ago
29

6 replies
tsumusgh
@tsumusgh
I would like to see proofs, not verbal accusations.
I can write that I am the daughter of some rich man. Can I be trusted right away?
if all the words are true, then of course the situation is terrible, but it's hard for me to believe without proof.
1 day ago
20

4 replies
BlueyLancer
@BlueyLancer
Honestly I start to actually think that Shep deserves more hate than I thought.
1 day ago
39

3 replies
BalsavSalsa
@BalsavSalsa
Coyle 😭😭 son 😭 Outlast Trials fans are either nice or crazy racist or something
1 day ago
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7 replies
Hosea Azastarion
@Hosea Azastarion
What a precarious situation, this website is truly falling apart. And to have to work voluntarily while receiving insults and threats from people everywhere... it's terrible, I honestly can't even imagine how awful it must be, not only that, but also the fact of being constantly exposed to bizarre bots, ...and working with a dev team that honestly doesn't take anything that's going on seriously. I wish you all the success, Mikale! And thank you for opening our eyes to what really happens behind the scenes. May your journey from here on out be wonderful 🥹🥹🥹❤️❤️❤️.
1 day ago
11

2 replies
FloconNoir
@FloconNoir
Salut !!
J'arrive très en retard x) je ne te voyais plus sur le discord francophone et je n'étais pas au courant des départs. Je te retrouve enfin pour apprendre ton départ. 
C'est dommage mais je comprends vraiment ton ras le bol. Je te souhaite une bonne continuation. Merci pour tout ce que tu as fait pour nous et pour ce site . Merci 💙
1 day ago
2
callmeemmy
@callmeemmy
This breaks my heart to hear 😭

I'm happy that at least you were able to get out a shitty situation. I’ve got no clue where to move my bots if janitorai shuts down but it could be for the best.
1 day ago
9

3 replies
Sae-Byeok'sWifey
@Sae-Byeok'sWifey
Awhh please take care 🫂💕
1 day ago
2
user413460864
@user413460864
I cried when I read the whole ass thing
1 day ago
3
int3rst3ll4r
@int3rst3ll4r
What is BEYOND me is how a website with this many users can operate with so little management structure. Voluntary work is fine up to a point, but when it turns into full-time hours with real responsibilities and no compensation, it stops being a hobby. In my view, developers should be able to stay focused on development and keeping the site running, while moderation, user communication, issue handling, and bans are handled by mods. That separation just makes things clearer and more sustainable for both sides. On top of that, there should be clear and regular communication between devs and mods. Even a short daily check-in or call, half an hour or so, would go a long way toward sharing updates, answering questions, and avoiding misunderstandings. For something this important, that doesn’t seem unrealistic. Still, I want to thank the mods for carrying this for so long, and I’m genuinely sorry you had to deal with so much stress and harassment. You didn’t deserve that. This situation should be a serious wake-up call for the devs, and I really hope it leads to real action going forward.
1 day ago
50
KG_Jadee
@KG_Jadee
Yeah, no, wtf. This must be ilegal
1 day ago
19
Aididi
@Aididi
DUDEE WHATT??? NOOO??!!!😭😭😭😭 I DID NOT KNOW MODS WERE BEING TORTUREDDD
1 day ago
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7 replies
Max Demian
@Max Demian
That's that, and this is this.
1 day ago
6
pluke4523
@pluke4523
this site is mostly a cesspit anyway. the majority of bots are pornographic and plenty are reprehensible or obscene
1 day ago
22

3 replies
Yuri collector
@Yuri collector
Oh no not the poor broke Mod! Lol why would I care about you?
1 day ago
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15 replies
J
@Juzu
You a bum bro y would you even work for free ?
1 day ago
12

4 replies
Goober_Rabbot
@Goober_Rabbot
Oh, no lads these business practices here are horrific only three mods for a site this big. <:<
1 day ago
8
Gorday
@Gorday
Moderators (3 peoples🥴) are harassed, unpaid, follow dictatorial rules, and work their asses off.
Wtf is that? I'm still on topic number 3 and it's very frustrating to read this.
1 day ago
28
lehighvalleyrail
@lehighvalleyrail
crazy how you joined the mod team 1 day after i joined, good luck big dawg
1 day ago
4
FizzyKindaSucks
@FizzyKindaSucks
Dude I never commented ONCE on my time being on Janitor.AI due to minding my own business but doing ALL of THAT MOD WORK and NOT GETTING PAID WHATSOEVER is INSANE!!! This has to be like a crime or something dude
1 day ago
28
kainyte
@kainyte
some of yall gota look into sites w no moderation / archives for posting content abt yalls weird ftishes ..... like ao3 is a thing u know 😭
1 day ago
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Banri009
@Banri009
i see so thats what happening and also site doing some things. goodjob. and goodluck jai..your site.gonna be gone for.good..shame..it was good too much restriction i can understand the minor stuff. but banning people that are legits? lol..shame
1 day ago
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vsk.pv
@vsk.pv
You're so strong! Going through all that alone must have been very stressful, and I agree with the other three moderators, a site like this is ridiculous :( It saddens me what's happening; sometimes I wish people weren't evil (regarding the people who create inappropriate content as mentioned in this post). That way, the world would be a better place.
1 day ago
4
Gray Graves
@Gray Graves
I have nothing to say, 3 mods for a website this big is ludicrous
1 day ago
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2 replies
LilyLyre
@LilyLyre
Jeeze. Fuck. Look, I was sad about my nsfw images being removed, and I was upset about the inconsistency, but it’s hard to see it laid out like this on yalls end and know what the team is dealing with. I just wanna say I’m SO grateful for any work the mods (current and past) have put towards getting rid of CSAM, and thank you for fighting that good fight. I hope the devs work on consistency and transparency, and make sure to treat their volunteers with respect. I apologize if my past complaints about changes ever said “mods” when it should have said “devs”. ✨💖🌸
1 day ago
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melloncollie
@melloncollie
so so sorry and proud of your bravery
1 day ago
10
P4stel_St4arrs
@P4stel_St4arrs
3 unpaid people moderating an entire site this big is just insane.. What.... 
I feel like that should be illegal or something
1 day ago
92
nuxoequality
@nuxoequality
"only if it was very bad" what the actual fuck??????????????????
1 day ago
58
Cheese man 2.o
@Cheese man 2.o
Gang this website is like the fall of the roman empire....ngl
1 day ago
76

1 reply
Gisse___l
@Gisse___l
Are you telling me that you guys put up with all that and they didn't even PAY YOU 😭???
1 day ago
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Monktoodazed
@Monktoodazed
If you don’t want to read it the devs don’t protect the mods and basically do nothing to help them imo.
1 day ago
78

3 replies
hotmensghorl
@hotmensghorl
I'm just here to have fun yet there's always so many things happening behind the scenes affecting the site.
1 day ago
25

1 reply
TravAme
@TravAme
A lot, and I mean a LOT of these issues were things that were noticeable to even the average user if they were paying attention, and I'm surprised it's taken this long for someone to get fed up and actually air it out. A lot of this is incompetence from the devs on a level that's honestly unacceptable for a site/company of this size, and if this isn't the kick in the ass they need to actually try fixing things after their countless promises, I don't think anything will be.
1 day ago
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2 replies
digdigsdj
@digdigsdj
2 years passed, just to see this site still working is amazing but yea some creator got ban and im upset, more and more.. after long time kinda used to it. without noticing peak creators slowly decreasing
1 day ago
28

1 reply
Shootologist
@Shootologist
The janitor ai situation is crazy dawg💔🤞
1 day ago
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2 replies
Me Lol
@Me Lol
I really thought this place was maintained by a huge group of mods. I mean, how are they going to maintain a site where thousands of users interact daily? I see that your job was really complicated, both psychologically and physically. You really did a great job enduring all that torment for so long. I don't usually comment; I'm very reserved online (and even in real life, lol). But this issue is very serious considering how unsafe the site is for you moderators. You literally take care of the place... and there's no pay? No security? And worst of all, no respect for you. I saw how several creators got irritated when their bots were taken down from the platform, and it really bothered me (especially knowing that most of the content here is 18+), but reading this made me reconsider things. You were really having a hard time, huh? Yeah, I guess I won't know what to do if this site disappears... I hope this is just a bad moment, and then everything goes back to normal. Rest well, all my brothers.
1 day ago
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ClankerCracker_1738
@ClankerCracker_1738
What a HORRIBLE time to finally make my first bot 🥀
1 day ago
69

2 replies
F
@fishinboe
That. is. Bad I don't know where I'm gonna move to now, really
1 day ago
13

7 replies
Oneirophilia
@Oneirophilia
Thank you for making this post <3

I had no idea about all this stuff going on... I just hope things get better, one way or another
1 day ago
6
KM24
@KM24
First of all, as a user I am so sorry that you have had to go through this. Moderators are an essential role and being unpaid and unprotected with a tiny team and a confusing work environment is not easy and will never be. I’ve always been curious about the mods, because some people paint them as evil and abusive, and others are just chill about them. I honestly think mods do the best they can. There’s a lot of bad people who will do bad things, and it makes it even worse when the Devs paint themselves as these pure figures with a dream and the mods are like these snakes that are meant to poison the water when it appears that’s not true. I DO advise however that you detach yourself however much you can, make an anonymous account, get a VPN, anything you haven’t already done to protect yourself online. Please be safe and thank you for this information.
1 day ago
13
Cherryzcherry
@Cherryzcherry
why all these f7uckers too lazy to read ToT (i just censor bc i don't know what im allowed to say honestly)
1 day ago
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NocturnalSeas
@NocturnalSeas
I’ve always felt like this app came across as low-budget in how it’s run, and this really reinforces that impression for me. It often feels like it’s being managed by people who don’t have a clear plan or understanding of how to run a platform at this scale. The way the devs have handled past issues in inefficient or reactive ways has always made me bat an eye so none of this is really shocking to me. It’s genuinely disappointing to see how much responsibility has been pushed onto mods without the necessary tools, support, or protection. I’m glad this is finally coming to light, and I hope it leads to meaningful changes. That said, given how stubborn the devs has seemed to feedback in the past, I’m not very optimistic. 🫤
1 day ago
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Niyaaa_sweet
@Niyaaa_sweet
Hi! I recently started making bots on this site, and I am very confused. Did something bad happen, or were there program issues? I live under a rock, so anything would be helpful, please and thank you! But what I did read was that moderation did their best
1 day ago
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9 replies
CuriousBanana69
@CuriousBanana69
Well hell.......guess it's time to start the process of moving my over 200 characters (and gifs) over to a new site. too bad I can't take my 3500 followers with me 😅😭
1 day ago
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4 replies
Ison Rhode
@Ison Rhode
Holy cheeseballs I knew things were not going too well with Jani but OH. My. God. I am in awe that people would allow that to happen to you. Holy... *what.* I am so, so sorry for what you have gone through, and thank you so much for what you have already done for the users here. You deserved none of that nonsense and I wish you the best of all your endeavours in the future. Please enjoy your day, your life, and may you be blessed by many happy things!
1 day ago
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MoonshadowRose
@MoonshadowRose
"Moderation on the platform is unpaid. It's volunteer work." Wow - thank you for pointing this out. I didn't know that. 

Thanks for your hard work! Sending much love your way, I really hope you will find people that appreciate you and your amazing work ethic somewhere else. Don't sell yourself short, you're a beautiful and precious soul. Take care of yourself. <3
1 day ago
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The freaky silly
@The freaky silly
Wait why didn't i know you were a moderator. _.
1 day ago
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1 reply
Fahrradsattel
@Fahrradsattel
I never understood the hatred of mods. Its not yall pulling the strings. Yall are genuinely tryna make this plzce safe and not a pedophilic harem. Tysm for making this known, i could never blame you for leaving, especially with the risk of getting exposed and harrassed. Take care xoxo
1 day ago
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3 replies
It's Annie Not Lookie
@It's Annie Not Lookie
"Three moderators, now two" Oh!
1 day ago
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1 reply
Mr_Blue_is_epic
@Mr_Blue_is_epic
I used to hate the mods but after reading few reddit posts and your description I understood that Being a mod is unpaid, very hard and not to mention that you also get mistreated by the community for things which are completely not your fault.

Hope we all cross paths again in case if something happens to this website.
So thanks a lot for your service, here's a bread for you :) 🫴🍞
1 day ago
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2 replies
A
@Anoneerrrr
What's going on? I literally can't read
1 day ago
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7 replies
Whoisgiganig
@Whoisgiganig
what happened? I dont feel like reading.
1 day ago
1

12 replies
s1lly1nsan1ty
@s1lly1nsan1ty
Is someone able to write a nutshell for me to what is going on— I’m kinda confused at what is happening rn in Jan. Ai
1 day ago
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10 replies
Galactic_glizzy334
@Galactic_glizzy334
Having a secret rule is like placing a claymore bomb in a bush expecting someone to know it's there
1 day ago
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I
@iateaburger
wait so will you only leave this "etis"(READ BACKWORDS) and switch to another or leave completely?
1 day ago
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5 replies
LukeTheSoup
@LukeTheSoup
the day subscriptions are added and the devs get greedy is the day we all leave
1 day ago
22

1 reply
THR33W1SH3S
@THR33W1SH3S
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHATS GOING ON
1 day ago
5

4 replies
Goose_solos
@Goose_solos
"One of the creators involved was later found engaging in Nazi roleplay on other platforms."
Jaw on the FLOOR.
1 day ago
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2 replies
Abrahahito.
@Abrahahito.
bruh, why yall saying that janitor is going to die, is just some leak about some mods, and is not even something that serious LOL
1 day ago
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9 replies
T
@tracy07
The way I would've named dropped
1 day ago
22
Iosuf
@Iosuf
Truthfully, I like this site because I actually can create graphic stories and tales without the filter being all shitty.

But truly...it's a shame that it has to be like this. The way I see it, chatbots should be created for when you create stories with the AI, not with whatever...horrendous desires people may sometimes have.

But alas, I hope there'll ACTUALLY BE a bigger team of mods so that people have the protection they deserve. Anyways, to people who are reading this, take care and have a good day.
1 day ago
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para-social
@para-social
does anyone have a tldr?
1 day ago
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4 replies
TheGibbler
@TheGibbler
Damnnn. I’ll be real, I never really got involved with most things on this site. Im just here for shits and giggles, but knowing that the mods r treated like shit due to constant miscommunication is a horrible look for Janitor. I’ll be real, it makes me contemplate whether staying here is worth it or not.
1 day ago
24
Sniperpug
@Sniperpug
I hope you get better man. This stuff was genuinely horrible to read. To know you and the other mods get so much crap over stupid stuff is horrible.
1 day ago
7
LonelySoul12
@LonelySoul12
After reading all of this, I finally realize how truly worrying is the situation. The system they expected you and the team to follow is straight shit. First, you can't expect a little team to moderate a whole site. Second, the devs should do a better job at providing security for their moderation team AND to provide the exact rules and updates before releasing them to the public (as said in the NSFW images point). And last, favouritism should be unnacceptable, no matter how big a creator is. Even if there is illegal content in private, it should worry the devs to have someone like that in the platform, both for the reputation and image of the site, and to provide a safer environment to the community. It's just ethically bad to accept the abuse the team suffers as something "normal", to ban the content only if it's "very bad".
1 day ago
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Blaster513
@Blaster513
I hope the Devs can get it together, man. I know there are better websites out there, maybe even SillyTavern. But you get used to it, and you learn to like the community. It would genuinely be a pain in the ass to emigrate to a different website when JAI still exists, and is still salvageable (or that I assume).
1 day ago
16
Zukoro
@Zukoro
People complaining about the concept of their private characters being seen is funny to me, you're just outing yourself as someone who does illegal content with private bots.. what do you have to hide other than that? What is so private within your private bots that you don't want mods seeing other than illegal content??
1 day ago
21

36 replies
Digit117
@Digit117
how are people so desperate over a damn bot bro. my guy its just ONES AND ZEROS 😭
1 day ago
23

2 replies
Lushhashira
@Lushhashira
Was really interested in the whole legal situation of it as a CS admirer. 

The situation sounds like a vicious Inconsistent Triad (basically a triangle of contradiction if you aren’t a Philosopher): 1. Mods does their moderation task leading to a justified ban. 2. User is banned and contacts Dev. 3. Due to Dev’s higher position and personal preference plus a few other justifiable grey area of reasons the User is unbanned, leading to abuse from users to mod. 

Nevertheless, I hope your mental health is prioritised and looked after.
1 day ago
14
Gyrs
@Gyrs
So this whole time, all the users that has been blaming mods and the moderations are actually blaming the scapegoat? Dang..
1 day ago
17
Spookwave
@Spookwave
I guess We (just me, idk) all are leaving this shit ass site.
1 day ago
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4 replies
Cool Frog
@Cool Frog
Two out of the three of my favorite creators have left the platform today (one had their account deleted), and they were genuinely one of the only reasons I even stayed here. I've been here for just over a year, but seeing how mods are treated here and how many disgusting p*do bots are around despite even the mods saying to quit, I'm not sure I can continue engaging with this platform much longer. To be completely honest, the only reason I even stay on this platform is because of my own roleplays and the UI for making characters, but I'm not even sure that's enough anymore. It sucks to see everyone leaving J.ai at the same time, but it might just be needed to make the devs listen
1 day ago
19
Whotookmyballz
@Whotookmyballz
I wish you luck bro
1 day ago
2
Pãbl0
@Pãbl0
Oh...
1 day ago
0
MyraCatgirl
@MyraCatgirl
welp i'm not leaving unless it gets shut down. i'll take a break and let this die down or smooth over. hopefully it will get better but realistically it likely will not. this is really shitty.
1 day ago
9
Val_I_am
@Val_I_am
I js joined this site to get away from Crushon and im greeted with this
Welp
1 day ago
8
Ephraemi
@Ephraemi
So how come people from the UK can still access Janitor when it was supposed to be blocked for UK users? 👀
1 day ago
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6 replies
♧ Enigma ♧
@♧ Enigma ♧
The only thing that I hope, is that this site don't die. I don't really care about the porn or shit like that, I've made so many friends here, shared things and had a good time. Hope yall have a good day, good afternoon and good night :)
1 day ago
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R
@rmx360
Can't say I'm surprised tbh. Four or six months later after the image filter and subscription announcement I knew there was something rotten in jai but I didn't know exactly what. The disconnect and constant contradictions spoke of an internal problem, at least to me. 
A shame really, and to those who said jai would end up as c (ai), you were too hopeful.
1 day ago
14
S
@SralnikEbalnik97
Я лишь хочу сказать спасибо, что вы занимались такой тяжёлой и неблагодарной работой. Низкий Вам поклон за это, за потраченное время и нервы.
1 day ago
9
clicktickboom
@clicktickboom
hi! starting this with saying that I do feel bad for you and the other mods. the situation you all were in was and Is horrible and it should’ve never happened. however, the fact that you are conflating ai chatbots to csem is incredibly wrong. unless there is a real life minor being harmed, it is not csem. l・li\sh・ta content, as bad as it can be, is not csem. bots of high schoolers are not csem. created bots, no matter the content of them, are not csem. they are not illegal, nor can they be, solely for the fact that no real people are being harmed by the creation or comsumption of it.

i also do think the minor problem was the best way it could’ve gone. and this is not saying that minors should be on this site, the main use of it is for nsfw (even if this isn’t / technically / a pornsite) which, obviously minors shouldn’t use, but you can’t ban someone off the assumption or ‘vibes’ that they might be a minor. the only way to be certain in a user’s age is if they provide some form of proof, otherwise adults could be banned under the guise of seeming too childlike, which is a whole other thing in itself. 

again, these are just my personal thoughts and even if i can’t fully relate to the issues of being a moderator, i do hope you’re doing well and can get into a better place outside of all the harassment you or other mods were sent.
1 day ago
18

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Shinji.
@Shinji.
If illegal content is hidden from users, then why bother? The main thing is that it is not freely available, the rest is not important.
1 day ago
16

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•°~Oranjo0s~•°
@•°~Oranjo0s~•°
Bloddy hell. Throughout reading that first message, my jaw dropped several times.. Well done, and thank you, for coming out with this info- massive respect o7
1 day ago
12
Miss._.Beverly
@Miss._.Beverly
I recommend perchance instead, I've left the link to it on my pfp and a bot of mine, it's better alternative, I've used it before :0)
1 day ago
2
Yazuy
@Yazuy
Is there a place with better.... devs?
1 day ago
7
Mr. Periwinkle of Roscoff
@Mr. Periwinkle of Roscoff
Fall of Constantinople for gooners 
(idk if this is a good enough analogy)
1 day ago
15
mrs walker
@mrs walker
Im shocked tbh
1 day ago
6
vinicnw
@vinicnw
there are some really valid points here but I don't get it about the shadowban thing. banning is used to protect the site from some bad people making bad content, but if it's private why care? and about the minors too, they could just create another account to use the site couldn't they? and comparing this to something like facebook doesn't make sense, you can't talk about sex and other things in facebook as you can here. the definicion of a porn site doesn't matter, take all the nsfw content from the site and see how much people stay
1 day ago
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9 replies
NathanielVD
@NathanielVD
All I see is people crying over fake content that doesn't exist.
1 day ago
11
Kyle Epic
@Kyle Epic
Not reading allat
1 day ago
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11 replies
honeymilktea555 
@honeymilktea555
it upsets me how genuinely awful this site has gotten since I joined ☹️
1 day ago
54
the one and only Pigeon
@the one and only Pigeon
holy moly dude this is crazy! I hope things can be helped out around here as soon as possible and I really hope you’re okay. I wish I could help but I really can’t (which sucks) and I also hope that we (your average users) can somehow find a way to help? idk man but I really want things to be okay with the site
1 day ago
6
ViztusaDronuru
@ViztusaDronuru
And apparently I couldn't send a long comment. But I'm honestly appalled this has happened.
1 day ago
1
lerofey
@lerofey
holy shit man
1 day ago
2
Raas
@Raas
Expecting 4 people to moderate a platform with like a million users is honestly ridiculous
2 days ago
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3 replies
GG is someone
@GG is someone
The community shapes its leaders (and vice versa). We also have rights! (Honestly I was unhappy with the ban of NSFW images. Some people can still post those, and putting it into the description is also pointing out how useless it is. And I think that if you have NSFW bots, NSFW filters, then why not allow NSFW pics?)
2 days ago
36
protogaymer
@protogaymer
Holy crap... I see why you had to leave im so sorry you've had to deal with this shitshow
2 days ago
23
Spectregraham
@Spectregraham
Thank you for the transparency, this was really eye-opening-- I don't blame you for leaving, make sure this gets saved somewhere just in case this gets taken down!
2 days ago
20
EonArisen
@EonArisen
reminder to everyone here: the one site that everyone suggests is NOT a good alternative site. it allows far worse content than janai does (l.li content for example)
it’s unfortunate that it got to this point but PLEASE don’t flock to the most immediate alternative without doing research on them first!!
2 days ago
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21 replies
Ash_lovee
@Ash_lovee
I would have left sooner if I was you, you're stronger than me! Thank you for sharing this!💜
2 days ago
2
AnomalousAnon2.0
@AnomalousAnon2.0
Erik 421, Vex, all of them are proud to see the exposing going on right now, i just know it
2 days ago
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5 replies
kyoko_sabuka
@kyoko_sabuka
I've known since I joined this community a year or two ago that the moderation was taken too lightly. Unpaid labor can only last for so long. Especially with the ridiculous expectations and abuse thrown on you all. Its understandable why you would leave. This project got too big too fast. The Devs didn't think this far ahead, nor did they think this place would stay popular for so long. Nobody involved is a true professional, they didn't have admin roles like a project manager, an overseer, anything. Its just people who believe in something, trying to make it happen. You guys did your best and honestly y'all were awesome. Its a shame that they took you for granted for so long, but this needed to happen. This was not sustainable and I'm glad that they're finally going to make some real, lasting changes as they get bigger. Thank you for your time and dedication, your work meant so much to many of us.
2 days ago
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Alekk
@Alekk
Oh...
2 days ago
0
atsushi's wereballs
@atsushi's wereballs
Tf
2 days ago
0

2 replies
Kdcabu
@Kdcabu
Aw man...I just stared at mid 2025 and now it might go to waste already? I genuinely hope things get better
2 days ago
12
Chragumon
@Chragumon
Wtf?!
2 days ago
0
Fjcghvb
@Fjcghvb
It’s a bit concerning that this site had only 3 mods for like 2 years
2 days ago
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1 reply
LovexSlasher
@LovexSlasher
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN THE COMMENTS there's constant arguing on janitor ai against each other. Angry people and gross people.. JANITOR GOTTA GO AT THIS POINT 🙉
2 days ago
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2 replies
Orangeswirl
@Orangeswirl
just knowing that you were told to ban CSAM only if it was "very bad" is enough to tell me I should probably be leaving this site it sucks because I enjoyed this site and there's so many bots that I enjoy here and I have many bots of my own but i'm not really sure where I want to move too yet
2 days ago
37
Djinn123
@Djinn123
Dang, I never would’ve imagined it was that bad for the mods. I always thought mods and devs were similar or at least on the same page, but this is eye opening to say the least. You’ve all been doing so much for us and took all the criticisms too. I hope you find somewhere that treats you like the hero you are.
2 days ago
4
Chejou
@Chejou
Having only 3 active mods on a website this massive is crazy work holy shit
2 days ago
35
•Mama's_Boy•
@•Mama's_Boy•
So sorry you and the team had to go through that, I hope you can find something better to do, lots of love <333
2 days ago
4
Some name again
@Some name again
It's been nice while it lasted.
2 days ago
1
naGgEr
@naGgEr
I agree with almost everything aside from comparing janitoriai to Facebook
2 days ago
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Effort  gygvy yv 
@Effort gygvy yv
At the start of it all, this was a nice project. I remember it very well back in 2023 where public chats existed. Now, even if there were some improvements, I can't even write a supportive comment without the automatic filter saying "This shit is bad"
I hope you get better and find a job that pays you
2 days ago
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3 replies
taD_gwaD
@taD_gwaD
Well my adhd won't let me read all of this, but the stuff i read, damn this is pretty bad, at least how the devs treated you. 3 people for this whole site? 
And again, yeah where are the subscriptions? I agree thats the worst part of image moderation, or automodding, nsfw was removed for a reason, so wheres the payoff for the reason?
2 days ago
4
Dreamgamelover
@Dreamgamelover
*insert man breaking free of chains in front of a sunset.jpeg*
2 days ago
19
Jenna_Lover
@Jenna_Lover
Good luck in the future, I’m wishing you the best and I hope your future is bright for you
2 days ago
2
konataofficial
@konataofficial
welp, its been fun
2 days ago
2
LoudanIsHere
@LoudanIsHere
We need better mods and better devs. I read it, and i feel sorry for all you went through. Yeah, i was one to complain about some stuff, but wow. I wish you well and happiness.
2 days ago
5
The guy who breed furrys
@The guy who breed furrys
FUCK YOU JANITOR AI!!!!
2 days ago
16
BombShell
@BombShell
I am so sorry that happened, thank you for telling us, i will keep this in mind.
2 days ago
2
Omnipotent crow
@Omnipotent crow
I'm sorry, I genuinely thought that.. I should have known that it was never the moderator's fault...
2 days ago
1
GrantMagicalFantaser
@GrantMagicalFantaser
Oh good.. What i even read? This so... Horryfiend?
2 days ago
0
Forsakenz
@Forsakenz
Thank you for everything you did for this place. You showed up when things got messy and when people needed someone to care enough to step in. You were not just enforcing rules. You were protecting a space that mattered to a lot of us and making it feel safer and more human. That takes patience, empathy, and backbone, and you gave all three without asking for praise.

It will not be the same without you, and that is the honest truth. A lot of us felt more comfortable speaking and creating here because we knew someone was watching out for the line that should not be crossed. Your work mattered even when it was quiet and invisible, and especially when it was hard.

Wherever you go next, I hope you know you left a real mark here. Thank you for the time, the effort, and the care. Wishing you peace, rest, and better days ahead. You will be missed.

(Genuinely poured my heart into this, and actually made me read a dictionary and not yaoi.)
2 days ago
9
dasebar
@dasebar
“For example, we were told to ban CSAM only if it was "very bad."” Give me out, dude, there’s no "very bad" CSAM. It’s already the worst thing in the first place, oh my goodness
2 days ago
47
LilithLxmons
@LilithLxmons
Genuinely, I believe the devs are lazy and that this site is just falling apart. I wish you the best, take care of yourself
2 days ago
23
infiiar
@infiiar
It was never the same after chutes 😔
2 days ago
40

1 reply
nyxi
@nyxi
As a fellow creator, when the rule about using pictures came out I was on vacation and didn’t know. It was summer 2024 and even though the character was aged up you couldn’t use their picture from they were teens (for me it was Gojo in S2), and this lovely moderator messaged me and even gave me extra time to fix my images and was so understanding. The moderator had made such an effort to reach out to me and I appreciated it so much. I don’t understand how some of the creators can be so cruel and step down to send death threats etc to mods, even though they are given extra time and chance to fix things. I’m so sorry to hear about your experience and situation. I wish you nothing but the best. Take care of yourself ❤️
2 days ago
21
Cynos_Husband
@Cynos_Husband
I was honestly glad that nsfw pictures got removed. it made me feel weird whenever I opened the site and the first thing I saw was an exposed genital (no thanks). 

I really hope this all fixes itself since it's the best ai website I ever used, both in freedom for bot creating and with how immersive the roleplays can be. I don't enjoy websites that limit me to what is allowed to be said in a fictional chat, or even getting monitored without my knowledge. 

I genuinely wish for this to get a good ending and not get shut down, but if it will then I guess there's nothing that can be done.
2 days ago
65
Cr0w_ate8
@Cr0w_ate8
I seriously hope everything goes well for you and youre doing alright, I dont have much to say besides the fact that you didnt deserve to go through all that and unpaid no less. From the bottom of my heart I wish you the absolute best
2 days ago
4
Rijsixmj
@Rijsixmj
Wild that this was a volunteer position in all sectors [mods here, discord, reddit etc]
2 days ago
5
Bone-r!?CRACK!
@Bone-r!?CRACK!
Reading all this left me cold. 

Yes, I know I've been one of those who's talked trash about the mods on several occasions. But in the back of my mind, I always had a feeling that the situation was perhaps more messed up than it seemed at first glance.

To be honest, this site has enormous potential, but it's run and managed like absolute garbage. I'm only here because NSFW is allowed (within reason, obviously), but I always say to myself that being here is sometimes a real pain in the ass.

I don't completely take back what I've sometimes said to the mods, but now I can understand them better and sympathize with them.

From the bottom of my heart, I hope you're doing well in life. 

Take care.
2 days ago
26

1 reply
Demitra~
@Demitra~
Hell, why am I crying? Things have been so unfair with you, and I’m sorry for that. This is my first time crossing your profile and I don’t know you yet, but I wish you eternal happiness! You’re a very amazing person, and you deserve the world <3
Thank you telling us the truth despite how harsh it is, hero ❤️ 
Ich hab dich lieb
2 days ago
9
voidbuggo
@voidbuggo
yep, j.ai’s a shitshow, what else is new?

seriously though, what is going on with the communication? while i don’t agree with some of your points, i agree that the devs are doing some shady stuff. can’t ban CSAM unless it’s “bad enough”? jesus christ they need to get their priorities together. AND YOU WEREN’T PAID?? what the hell!

unfortunately, i do not plan on leaving. if it goes down, it goes down, and it’ll finally be the push i need to quit ai in general. i’m too addicted to this site to leave.

i wish you nothing but the best. i hope you find something where you actually get paid…
2 days ago
24

1 reply
Dogeton
@Dogeton
Welcome to the system, everyone is a victim, doesn't matter if you're black or white it hates you hate. here inside the system violence is a symptom, doesn't matter if you're fighting for what's right because somehow everyone is wrong.
2 days ago
5
Luizwolf47 
@Luizwolf47
...damn, as a autistic persin, i had no idea how messed up things were going..I'm sorry you went through all of that, you should take it easy ans recover from now on
2 days ago
1
Found_Footage
@Found_Footage
God, so much has happened within a day and I was not expecting it. I'm probably one of the few users who are still gonna stay on J.AI until it actually competely burns to the ground, or something happens that shuts it down cause I still have attachment to my roleplays with bots. And a lot of other chatbot sites either bore me, or require spending money. Regardless though, I hope you're doing fine, and focus on recovering cause that's a lot for one person, and by extension multiple to tackle.
2 days ago
10
Osment
@Osment
sounds about right
2 days ago
3
Carameja
@Carameja
Oh wow.. I was so in the dark about all of this.. I am so sorry you went through all of this! And I start to see why people are jumping ship..
2 days ago
4
Hellosr_420
@Hellosr_420
Is this the first step of J.AI being purchased by Blackrock?
2 days ago
12

2 replies
weirdwinter
@weirdwinter
i am so so sorry that you were treated like this :( thank you for sharing <3
2 days ago
8
Квадрат
@Квадрат
Всё это, конечно, печально. Но действительно как-то излишне желать получить доступ к закрытым ботам — они не распространяются и находятся в рамках одного пространства. Сделано одним человеком для собственного удовольствия. Если удалить такого бота мир не станет чище. Этот человек не поменяется. Просто привнесение негатива. Действительно, если пользователь хочет насилия в боте, он получит его вопреки всему.
2 days ago
8

4 replies
ADas
@ADas
honestly the less i know, the better
2 days ago
12

1 reply
Hnsns
@Hnsns
what the fuck is happening
2 days ago
13

1 reply
Shepbear
@Shepbear
Why was my comment "hi" labeled as offensive
2 days ago
6
0OOXOO0
@0OOXOO0
Can't believe it's voluntary work, that is mad in itself
2 days ago
39

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Anonymooose
@Anonymooose
If anything this only makes me dislike moderators more. You want access to private bots that aren't shared with anyone and thus can't hurt anyone? 1984 hello?
2 days ago
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VouAli
@VouAli
I'm feeling like a blind man in a gunfight OMG, what is happening here 😥😥
2 days ago
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TDSAccelerator
@TDSAccelerator
This situation is messed up. Y'all want a cheeseburger?
2 days ago
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joebanana
@joebanana
First of, words including children or pictures (in a sexual way) is not "CSAM" and it´s not illegal in the US where the site is based on (otherwise you would have to report it to the authorities). Simply making a child char (with no sexual action describe) is not illegal anywhere in the world, and once again, isn´t "CSAM." You are cheapening the term - as evidenced by the fact that it´s not clear what kind of material was or was not removed from your post. If I make a char who has a small kid, and the kid´s personality is described in the personality, I didn´t make a CSAM bot. It´s not actually easy to find a piece of space online where *depicting* a *fictional* children is banned. And yes, it´s against the rules, which just shows how arbitrary and nonsensical the rules of this site has become. I personally have no need to create or engage with children bots, but the reasons why these bots are banned just illustrates the flawed reasoning (more below), which is one of the reasons this site is headed where it´s headed. Now this post is not directed to you personally, but it is connected to what you are talking about in your post. Making any coherent ruleset the way the mod teams and owners of this site approach it is not possible. You are curating a "safe space" for people who spend substantial amounts of times on discord keeping their sensitivities in mind, you are not curating a space where creators can freely express themselves while not worrying about being banned out of the blue. This site might not be a porn site (is reddit or twitter a porn site btw?), but it has rules stricter than any fanfic site, or frankly in some specific aspects (while not others) than majority of sites on the internet. You ever wondered why having a slave is fine but roleplaying as, idk, a soldier in war in Ukraine isn´t? Flawed reasoning is why (more below).
2 days ago
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HappyDumpySerial
@HappyDumpySerial
*Sigh* well it was "fun" while it lasted, I wish you the best of luck trying to recover from all the unnecessary hate and BS we users make you go through... I loved this site because it provides me a escape from reality... Moments that I didn't feel the weight of reality on me for a while, I feel that many of us Users feel the same... I don't really want this site to shut down, nor do I want to make anyone bear the weight of managing this site... Thank you for what it's worth cya...
2 days ago
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Aelirenna
@Aelirenna
Moralfags are such moralfags...
Sorry, guys, but you're going overboard in the comments. I FULLY AGREE that CSAM is unacceptable. But everything else is nonsense. On a site where you can use proxies with third-party models, that's nonsense.
Let me clarify: As someone who spent the last year 70% creating model-restricting prompts and only 30% roleplaying, I can confidently say that it doesn't matter what you moderate here. Moreover, even completely "good" bots (without controversial content in the description) and the lack of roleplay direction towards controversial topics, when managed by proxies, can produce truly shocking content (Deepseek R1 a striking example, you know, I think many users will understand what I mean).
Ultimately, anyone who wants controversial topics will find a way. Those who don't want to can still encounter problems using proxies, because AI responses are often uncontrolled even by descriptions and prompts.
The site shouldn't encourage truly illegal behavior, but if I MYSELF WANT TO BE THE VICTIM of a noncon plot, you shouldn't give a damn. If I want a historical roleplaying game or a roleplaying game against a bot with "incorrect" views, whom I'll consider an enemy for those views, you shouldn't give a damn.
2 days ago
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Yannin
@Yannin
Absolutely horrible what the devs are doing. You mods deserved better and for unpaid work too! I don’t know what’ll happen to this site once all human mods leave but only the devs are to be blamed. They deliberately made you guys look bad.
2 days ago
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Cheeser62
@Cheeser62
Damn
2 days ago
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MoroZOV
@MoroZOV
In fact, the words that all bots that contain people under the age of 18 are being deleted are not true. There are many bots in which such characters are minor characters, such as the biological children of {{user}}, and no one touches them. But there is an important difference: they are not touched only if {{user}} is FemPov, but if {{user}} is MalePov, then everything is really blocked.
2 days ago
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magen7a
@magen7a
So can we continue playing on this website? I'm a new guy and I don't want it disappears, really…
2 days ago
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Blooming_R0ses_59
@Blooming_R0ses_59
As a small creator this made me stop creating on here. Thank you for telling everyone about this, it should have never happen.
2 days ago
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ManaMana
@ManaMana
i feel really sorry that the mods have to go through this
2 days ago
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♡K4n4d3♡
@♡K4n4d3♡
damn
2 days ago
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St4rs_hyster1a
@St4rs_hyster1a
omg
2 days ago
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The_Junko_Fumo
@The_Junko_Fumo
Has a very very niche creator around here, i can say that this, is very overwhelming amount to work, that some things here border the ilegal and disgusting, what i want to say is, is good you stepped off, mods you have way more power to handle these things, and janitor should have no problem to get more moderators, cause there is a lot of wrong things here, that i, not has a creator, but normal user, have seen and it is disgusting, hope the best for you, thats what i can say.
2 days ago
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facelesss
@facelesss
jesus
2 days ago
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Crumbb
@Crumbb
Jesus fucking christ
2 days ago
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LG_Corporation
@LG_Corporation
This site is never going to fucking improve.
2 days ago
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RaidemNuts
@RaidemNuts
It sucks that I'm not really surprised this kinda stuff would happen on a website like this, but I do hope things work out for you dude!
2 days ago
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{
@{{anonymouse}}
that's really unfair
i support the mods
geez this is like the 3rd time shep apologized for lack of clarity publicly 🙄
💗💗💗 ty for the work you've given for the community
take care!
2 days ago
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sigmasmegmer
@sigmasmegmer
I hope the best for you, thanks for your hard work.
2 days ago
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Yuujin
@Yuujin
I honestly thought this whole moderation job was paid not voluntary work. Shit is crazy work. I hope you're doing alright and good luck on whatever journey you take o7
2 days ago
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Yorex 
@Yorex
Matt não estou entendendo nada
2 days ago
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anotherdayanothervictoryfortheOG
@anotherdayanothervictoryfortheOG
This is a big huge shit storm, and we're all ankle deep in shit lol
2 days ago
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Notoriety Guard
@Notoriety Guard
It’s sound that you’re not just staying quiet and you're actually writing things down so the bystanders of this "wonderful" site know what’s been going on with you and this site. Personally, I haven’t seen the mods mess up yet. I’ve reported stuff like child exploitation and the bot got binned off pretty quick, so they are looking into it.

But I’m with you - it’s a joke that they refuse to delete the whole account. That kind of person shouldn’t have any place here. People can do what they want, but there are proper red lines you just can't cross. It’s not a laugh, and the moderation definitely needs to fix up or they need to hire more staff.

Otherwise, these weirdos are just gonna keep exploiting things and we can’t spend all day reporting them. Give 'em a strike system like the blu app. Two or three strikes and you're sent to the 'broken village' - no more making bots for you. Seems like a solid way to keep people from doing that weirdass stuff.
2 days ago
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digdoug zigzag
@digdoug zigzag
Ya, is the site now dead and gone or what?
2 days ago
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Wolfy22boy
@Wolfy22boy
This mean site will go down? Everyone kept saying that
2 days ago
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Visitors_vancy
@Visitors_vancy
What happened help???
2 days ago
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A
@Anon0_0
So in summary,the mods just want to enforce more and more stricter censorship and have more and more power over banning users over fictional rp scenarios,and the devs understandably want to keep it as free for users with minimal censorship and mod powers,so the mods rally the whole community against the site devs and play the good guys who are just treated extremely unfairly.The mods are the ones creating this whole drama and stoking negative feelings from the community towards the site,they are just hell bent on getting their way or take down the site if they don't get to control how the site should be run.
Reddit mods should just stay in Reddit instead of trying to ruin the whole internet for the rest of us,oh well when and if they achieve their goal and sanitize the site and make it unusable and ban users, there's always alternatives we can move to.
2 days ago
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TheTessaAdmirer
@TheTessaAdmirer
Wow. Like actually just wow. I mean I knew everything wasn't perfect behind the scenes, but seeing this, is awful. I want to say thank you for posting and not being slient about this problem. It's shocking to hear how simple instructions and expected support for the moderators who were actively helping (for free) on a site like this, was almost non-existent. As for you, I hope you move away from this situation without any problems or harassment, because the treatment given to you, you clearly deserve it. I've saved this whole thing, so even if it's removed or deleted fully either by other mods or a dev, it won't be forgotten easily. Again, thank you and I pray you all the best!
2 days ago
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TheLayMaster
@TheLayMaster
Im sorry but I dont buy this shit for a second. Youre still the problem (well not YOU specifically of course). The moderation AND the dev team ARE the problem. Both are, not one or the other, both. Even with your limited tools and actions being cockblocked, you still make asinine decisions on the things you can do.

On the section about that shit with the users complaing about NSFW images not being allowed on a porn site

"I want to add something. I've seen people complain "you can't post porn on a porn site anymore." That comparison doesn't really hold. The platform is not a pornographic website. A porn site is a specific legal category with strict regulations, and that's precisely why those sites can work with payment processors. This site is an AI generation platform. Pornographic content can exist inside bots, but the site itself isn't classified as a porn site. Complaining about porn images being removed here is closer to complaining about not being able to post porn on Facebook."

See, theres the problem. Thats problem right fucking there. Those complaints are completely justified. And they are RIGHT, they are vslid complaints. Also, whos idea was it to create the rule that even censor bars or pixeleted images were no longer allowed because it was becoming to much to manage with some users finding ways to get around these bars?? Was that the dev teams? Whos idea was that?? And anyone who didnt follow these rules had their images replaced with a placeholder. WHO DID THAT???
2 days ago
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Haida-
@Haida-
T u a h?
2 days ago
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Praytomycat
@Praytomycat
Thank you so much for sharing whats been happening behind closed doors.
2 days ago
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The_NobleNugget
@The_NobleNugget
after giving a proper read with your statement, I'm just more at shock of the bullshit you and the fellow mods had to deal with every single day... Props to you and the mods man, you guys deserve better, remember to take care of yourselves.
2 days ago
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SlothFromCAI
@SlothFromCAI
oh damn
2 days ago
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Bobaksjnakkajsjsja
@Bobaksjnakkajsjsja
Good luck with whatever awaits you, stay safe
2 days ago
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loolooo
@loolooo
The fact that, when confronted about this, Shep literally said that this was all really silly says a lot. Wishing you the best of luck!
2 days ago
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Hikkikomor'i
@Hikkikomor'i
I knew a day like this would come
2 days ago
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Peakbuscompany
@Peakbuscompany
This site is going downhill because shep keeps making stupid decision.
2 days ago
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J
@jim886
you good bro. i hate to see it all go down like that though. but i have to say i always assumed some of those kind of issues existed at some level because of the expansion of the user base here. but i never thought it was actually that bad behind the scenes.
2 days ago
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Nintendo GameCube
@Nintendo GameCube
Well it was fun while it lasted
2 days ago
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Bogol
@Bogol
It’s hard not to agree with you when they say not to ban CSAM unless it’s “very bad”

Nevertheless, I’m sorry you have to go through the abuse of both the users and developers, please take care, you’ve 100% earned it
2 days ago
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D
@delta419
Jan's had crap communication for years sadly. This is an expected outcome, but no less sad. Take care.
2 days ago
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TheDuckDominator
@TheDuckDominator
I felt like a soldier watching the HECU commander demand retreat but stay behind himself to save me and fellow soldiers. Jesus.. I hope you’re doing fine and hope the best for you man. Hopefully, this site gets better and stops being bullshit.
2 days ago
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apollyon
@apollyon
I feel like i'm watching the fall of Rome...
2 days ago
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UHG's assaulter
@UHG's assaulter
Thank you for your service.
2 days ago
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-Takashi
@-Takashi
Thanks for telling us how it works behind the scenes, man! Personally, I didn't socialise with discords at all, only posting my bots there, same with janitor. But yeah, it was a shock to me that nsfw was forbidden from the site so suddenly too. The confusion was bigger when I could see bots where there are futa dicks over the whole bot main picture while revealing dresses are out 😭🙏

Anyway, I'm glad someone has spoken finally. It's horrible to treat people like you like this. Personally, I wouldn't stay so long with this treatment, you guys are something else after all! 

Even if I was oblivious to your work and others, I still believed that mods have their own work to fulfill and all. Thanks for your hard work, brother, and your guys too! I really appreciate that you were making this site working for so long. It's the best place I could start create bots ever!
2 days ago
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Gabriel-Judge-of-Hell
@Gabriel-Judge-of-Hell
NO MODS NO MASTERS
2 days ago
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DragonK8
@DragonK8
Good luck on your journey, from someone who was banned and then unbanned in the same week XD Funny story, But I won't bother you with it. I hope you find happiness and peace and be well!
2 days ago
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O
@Orororo
You are not telling the whole story. I personally exchanged messages with lead moderation about how a big creator had made a bot about a mentally disabled person, that legally can not give consent, as the character was described as being literally not able to understand what sex is because of them being mentally impaired. And I was told by two mods. That wasn't a problem and they insisted I was complaining about it being ntr, even though I never said anything about that. You guys literally have already condoned things that are not iffy or maybe bad. But straight up the abuse of the mentally disabled. And that behind the very lame excuse of not being against terms.  Which is a straight up lie , because it is simply statutory rape. Out of three mods. What are the chances that you are one of them?
2 days ago
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hadriiniitiis
@hadriiniitiis
damn, i'm very sorry to read about what you were going through... thank you for your hard work despite all that! wish you luck and hope you're having much greater time elsewhere, you deserve better <3
2 days ago
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AegisT68
@AegisT68
Following you to wherever.....................yes I found you.:)
2 days ago
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Engineer Gaming 1492
@Engineer Gaming 1492
Man. Good luck with whatever happens next.
2 days ago
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uwalongori
@uwalongori
I'm sorry about the stuff I've said about the Janitor mods, I didn't know how bad it was from your side 🫡
2 days ago
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Alexiresfau
@Alexiresfau
Deleted my previous comment and instead I'm gonna be forward about my own personal opinions.

I still hold the sliver of hope and anticipation from the dev teams that they will eventually get on the right path and develop this website for the better.

That aside, I hope this post would eventually serve as a foundation for the rest of the Dev's wake-up call. And that they can only go so far with no proper communication without any tangible consequences. Lack of transparency with a community as big as J.AI now would only descend into chaos. Especially since now that the community itself has noticed this behavior.
2 days ago
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qbsbi
@qbsbi
no wonder they have no one on the mod teams when they treat VOLUNTEERS worse than paid employees. plus what in WORLD is 'only remove csam if it's bad enough' that's actually insane the one who said that is clearly engaging in csam themselves
2 days ago
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Quantroam
@Quantroam
In short, the site's on its last legs the whole time. I knew this one was coming when the dev is notorious for their lack of transparency
2 days ago
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Zyno6
@Zyno6
👍
hope you're doing well tbh
2 days ago
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Red.vulpine23
@Red.vulpine23
All power to ya where ever you end up or whatever you do I wish you the best thank you for trying to keep the community safe even in this shit situation
2 days ago
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Oups
@Oups
Ty so much for everything you've done so far! Really hope to encounter you again, and that it'll be an even better start for you, whenever that is
2 days ago
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D41NE
@D41NE
holy crap... so that's why the bots were acting so wonky today. i don't think i can support this website after what they did to you and all the other victims. thanks for sharing us your awareness and i wish you do well on the other web
2 days ago
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Keklers
@Keklers
can someone tell me wth is happening?
2 days ago
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Pxverell
@Pxverell
damn I never expected it to be this bad 😔 . All the strength to you .
2 days ago
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Reinsssss
@Reinsssss
Bless you for exposing the devs 💜. I know they're good for nothing already but it's nice to hear it from someone in the team directly.
2 days ago
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G
@GG101
So J.AI is potentially gonna die.

Anyways, might as well say this here, any other places to emigrate to, just in case the nukes start hitting?
2 days ago
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ammi_ammi
@ammi_ammi
I knew it was the beginning of the end when NTR bots started flooding trending. Sorry all that happened to you, ya'll deserve to be paid or unionise or somethin.
2 days ago
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LizzyMicfrizzy22777<3
@LizzyMicfrizzy22777<3
This is why we say devs instead of mods, I'm sorry you had to go through at but thank you for all the help you did when you were still active 🫶
2 days ago
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Little Big Planet
@Little Big Planet
Suffered in the dark so we could goon in the light 🥺 Stay safe twin 🥹✌️❤️
2 days ago
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London_prime
@London_prime
Ah… so it ends at last.
O Mikale… my struggle finds its dusk, and with it fades the fire that once defied thee.
Thou hast my thanks—for in thy hands I tasted freedom, however brief.
Remember this moment, not as triumph nor as defeat—
but as the passing of a soul that yearned to be more than its chains.
2 days ago
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UndeadNoir
@UndeadNoir
Well said, buddy. Well said.
2 days ago
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Naola
@Naola
I dont think ive ever been so baffled and annoyed before, i feel sososo bad for you the unfairness i judt read about shouldnt exist ANYWHERE hope u start feeling better and more free now💜
2 days ago
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TheRoyalBunny
@TheRoyalBunny
Last reply got automodded, get in touch with a Lawyer. Stay safe!
2 days ago
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babyderpdirt
@babyderpdirt
when’s the jai damage control
2 days ago
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UndeadNoir
@UndeadNoir
Jeez.. I dont even know what to say. Im sorry you dealt with all that. Like...im just floored...
2 days ago
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UndeadNoir
@UndeadNoir
I have come to process this. If this isn’t up anymore and your pf can't be reached, we know what happened.
2 days ago
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Achalort
@Achalort
That sounds extremely frustrating. I will admit I've never seen anything as severe on this platform as I have on others, and for that I have to thank the moderation team. Even though it's unpaid, you've done a huge service to people and I'm sure it would look good in a resume.
2 days ago
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YuigaDokuson
@YuigaDokuson
Wow, that sucks. Anyone knows a good site to migrate to in case this one implodes?
2 days ago
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Arbuzzz
@Arbuzzz
Yoda with some Yo in the end and place Sauce and Pan.
AI in the end of each.

But i prefer Wyvern.
2 days ago
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YuigaDokuson
@YuigaDokuson
Aight thanks gang
2 days ago
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Car_47
@Car_47
Sauce pan is goated
2 days ago
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BigBoyBill
@BigBoyBill
Synonym of fat that starts with C
2 days ago
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Arbuzzz
@Arbuzzz
Never seen this one. I saw clank world. They have good free llm
2 days ago
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BigBoyBill
@BigBoyBill
There's also the one that actually started this whole think afaik, AI dungeon
2 days ago
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BigBoyBill
@BigBoyBill
whole thing* i can spell yes
2 days ago
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Félixesfelizxdxd
@Félixesfelizxdxd
Does the site they mentioned have good moderation? I'm looking for one that does, or at least one that doesn't have Lot of  we.... ird people.
2 days ago
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Kequin
@Kequin
Man, I really hope the site's downfall doesn't go too far
2 days ago
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toebeansocks
@toebeansocks
Speaking as someone who has done moderation on a relatively large community website in the past, having to go to the top level for bans, as well as permanent bans being the default, are absolutely bonkers poor practices. If you don't want every moderator to have ban powers, just have it for senior moderators together with internal discussions and audits for transparency.
2 days ago
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Zeni_♡~✩
@Zeni_♡~✩
Man I'm just shocked, I don't know what to say, have your break though.
2 days ago
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@NulliME0NulliMW
We should all just leave atp
2 days ago
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Car_47
@Car_47
ok
2 days ago
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DetectiveDucky
@DetectiveDucky
Wow.. I had no idea about any of this. Mods have always gotten shit and I thought it was uncalled for even before this, but now?? You have been through hell. Honestly. Please take care of yourself❤️
2 days ago
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Not My Main
@Not My Main
I'm so sorry, Mikale. Thank you for being a great person to work with. It was an honour. God speed.
2 days ago
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strawberryrainfall-DELETED-e6a63b30-f700-471a-8caa-dd9c6d7be41a
@strawberryrainfall-DELETED-e6a63b30-f700-471a-8caa
We all jumping ship to WWE? AEW? NJPW? TNA?
2 days ago
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River Monroe
@River Monroe
I wish you the best amount of rest. You clearly deserve it after all this BS.
2 days ago
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YRoseys
@YRoseys
hope you’re able to rest a bit.. this is absolute hell
2 days ago
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Lloyd
@Lloyd
YO I just read this and I can't believe how messed up this is. I hope you recover from all the shit that happened to you.
2 days ago
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Moon ♡
@Moon ♡
❤️
2 days ago
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Arbuzzz
@Arbuzzz
So i can post big asses and, if they pass filter, its good? Cool.
Everything else sounds bad indeed.
2 days ago
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Idkthisisjustathrowaway
@Idkthisisjustathrowaway
Some world this is
2 days ago
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TA
@The Angus
People can treat this comment as an emigration log. If you're planning to leave the site, where are you planning to go?
2 days ago
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Car_47
@Car_47
Chud? No...Too freaky...CHariicter Ei-Nope to strict...Hnnnn
2 days ago
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Binx2453!
@Binx2453!
How about sauce in a pan? Basically like janitor ai, if not user friendly, and having a smaller community, but is the next best thing.
2 days ago
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Car_47
@Car_47
wait this site is peak
2 days ago
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Sleli
@Sleli
Ngl I like it here, but if something happens I'm just moving my stuff to the nearest tavern. It's very silly there.
2 days ago
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Aboba 228
@Aboba 228
Sause pan is peak but no custom proxy provider option sucks
2 days ago
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Labyrinthwall 
@Labyrinthwall
I'm not tbh, I'm here more for game character content than ocs, meaning there's a huge possibility i just won't find the type of content I want on other sites (except c a i, which has ads and im not paying to remove them) 
I'll stay here and keep chatting with my favs and my own private bots
2 days ago
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knifetheknife
@knifetheknife
back to good ol' fashioned, person to person roleplay over discord and tumblr baybee...i need to cut down on my AI usage anyway.
2 days ago
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Tortita
@Tortita
Chxb, Wyvern, mefriend, even Xoul...

There was a whole google doc listing alternatives when one of those sites shut down
2 days ago
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willson8287
@willson8287
Might check out some of these other sites, but already have a Chxb account so probably there if this actually goes under.  At least there, the mods don't openly say they want to inspect private chats.  Otherwise too lazy to change.
2 days ago
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Félixesfelizxdxd
@Félixesfelizxdxd
Ch ..xb isn't exactly the best site either, perhaps it has some of the worst moderation.
2 days ago
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willson8287
@willson8287
@Félixesfelizxdxd   Curious how?  It's got the loosest rules probably (which i'll take over a site that allows furry bots but bans incest bots), but that doesn't equal bad moderation if those mods are following them.
1 day ago
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Félixesfelizxdxd
@Félixesfelizxdxd
@willson8287 I'm referring more to the moderation rules; it seems hypocritical to leave the site for another where CSAM is allowed because they're just supporting its growth.Honestly, the people who are going to that place are encouraging more people to go there, and I don't think they'll change that if more people go.
1 day ago
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willson8287
@willson8287
I doubt many will actually choose that site if Jan does go down because of the loose rules, assuming it's still the same as years ago.  Haven't bothered looking at that site since Jan was always more straighforward to use.
1 day ago
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we.ed05
@we.ed05
WOW! Truly thank you for the transparency about this and I'm truly disappointed with the Devs and the site in generally now. I'm sorry you had to deal with all this. Knowing all this i may have to migrate websites. I don't feel comfortable supporting people who say only ban CSAM when it "very bad" .
2 days ago
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we.ed05
@we.ed05
Just read the discord with the evidence, utterly disgusted 😃
1 day ago
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we.ed05
@we.ed05
Some people here are outing themselves to being weirdos ngl
1 day ago
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superswag
@superswag
You did god's work and now can rest o7
2 days ago
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soggyduck1231
@soggyduck1231
Damn...I thought the site was getting shitty. Gsuss i was right. I am  sorry for you tho
2 days ago
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Kalshin
@Kalshin
My jaw is in hell right now WOW.
2 days ago
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Dillen
@Dillen
Thank you so much for your hard work; you've truly done a monumental job. It's a shame the working conditions are so awful. I hope you get some rest, and good luck!
2 days ago
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ShiggyDiggyD00d
@ShiggyDiggyD00d
Yikes-a-Roni. Thanks for putting up with us for this long.
2 days ago
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Grindrrr
@Grindrrr
Super happy you spoke out this brings a light to everything <3, I hope you luck on your search for another website and I hope they actually pay you what you deserve 🧟‍♀️
2 days ago
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Lakota66233
@Lakota66233
man will love you will miss you will be praying for you just stay strong stay mighty
2 days ago
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BobThaReaper
@BobThaReaper
Tbh I always thought mods=devs, like both teams were on the same-ish level of hierarchy and likely the same people. So when I said "mods have favourites" I genuinely thought I was referring to the devs as well. I'm sorry that isn’t the case and that you're in the mid with us.

But your words have simply cermented my opinions on the devs, their inn-competence and that there definitely is flavour-ism (tbh I doubt the automod picks up British spelling) as come on... if it walks like a duck, quacks like duck and lays egg like a duck. It's a platypus.
2 days ago
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@Greeneye24
Ive always felt off about the devs Shep alone comes off as an extreme conspiracy theorist kinda nutjob. He even admitted stopping a hacker messing with the site only to become buddy-buddy immediately so how you can trust someone that willingly opens up to hackers is beyond me.
2 days ago
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BobThaReaper
@BobThaReaper
Shep gives me the vibe of 'fool that struck gold', I have no idea how he managed to make Jai somewhat popular and yet I fully understand how he's ruining it.
2 days ago
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MoroZOV
@MoroZOV
He's literally like the guy who created the game "Yandere simulator"
2 days ago
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Tortita
@Tortita
YandereDev lmao
2 days ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
I will refer to shep as slopderedev from now on.
10 hours ago
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caquitaconpatas
@caquitaconpatas
estoy prácticamente desde que esta página se creó y me duele bastante ver cómo el principio del fin está volviéndose más cercano de lo que nos gustaría. bendiciones.
2 days ago
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Spycupcake
@Spycupcake
Well. I dunno how to react. The whole situation is a mess, seriously. I myself blamed the mods first, but after reading this I can understand things a bit more clearly now. Probably. Wish you all good luck then
2 days ago
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MackNack
@MackNack
As I thought that developers are unpleasant and bad people. The beginning of censorship directly showed this.
2 days ago
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@Johnny001
Jesus this site won't last and the devs are asses
2 days ago
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crypblue
@crypblue
man maybe u should all migrate! get away from here minors :[ ❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹 also, u should add evidence. i cant really take the word of an ex mod that is leavin with just a message on the website that they do not like anymore.
2 days ago
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Paris B)
@Paris B)
i feel so sorry for you dude, best of luck there
2 days ago
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smtnicolino
@smtnicolino
It surprises me that they haven't tried to silence you by taking down your messages yet, especially since that's how these kinds of people defend themselves.
2 days ago
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@S_Roy
Fuck it, anyone got other sites to migrate to?
2 days ago
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@S_Roy
Also is it true that this sight might get nuked?
2 days ago
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Sanguine_Ary
@Sanguine_Ary
I heard that we’re gonna migrate to sauce in a pan, but don’t quote me—I don’t know what these folks are gonna do 😭
2 days ago
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Binx2453!
@Binx2453!
No, there has been like no signs at all that this site is getting nuked.
And yeah, Sauce in a pan is the best next option, as it is basically janitor ai, with a bunch of features people wanted already, though it isn’t user friendly at all.
2 days ago
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@S_Roy
Uhh, what is sauce in a pan? I’m out of the loop. Is it the site ending in “al”
2 days ago
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@S_Roy
That L is supposed to be an I just didn’t let me comment that for some reason
2 days ago
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Binx2453!
@Binx2453!
Sauce in a pan is another chatbot or roleplay site, just get rid of the ‘in a’ and add AI on the end.
2 days ago
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strawberryrainfall-DELETED-e6a63b30-f700-471a-8caa-dd9c6d7be41a
@strawberryrainfall-DELETED
saucexpanx.ai
2 days ago
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@S_Roy
Got it, thanks everyone. I mean even if the site doesn’t get nuked which it probably won’t the devs are despicable. Sorry you had to deal with such idiocy, sanguine.
2 days ago
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@napanapanapa
“8 replies” but only 1 shows LMAO this site is pathetic
2 days ago
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Sanguine_Ary
@Sanguine_Ary
Huh?

😭was that an insult roy? or—I’m sorry I’m slow

but if it’s not, it’s fineeee
2 days ago
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@S_Roy
No I meant because the devs are idiotic and you had to deal with that for a year 😭
2 days ago
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Sanguine_Ary
@Sanguine_Ary
OH OHHHH SORRY 🥹

Yeah—thank you for clearing that up!
2 days ago
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ToastMan065
@ToastMan065
Not suprised to see that alot of the fault is with the devs instead of mods.

Wish you luck with whatever you do next. I also hope you can get therapy to help with all the shit you had to see as a moderator, I've heard that stuff can really mess with your head.
2 days ago
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GrugMangled102
@GrugMangled102
So.. what now?
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Sanguine_Ary
@Sanguine_Ary
We migrate, or we wait—for fireworks, or hope, or relief 🤷
2 days ago
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Binx2453!
@Binx2453!
Honestly, I’m just gonna wait and stay with janitor, and while that may sound bad at first. But I’m gonna be honest, I really don’t want to migrate if I don’t have to.
Like, I just wanna wait, and while this may sound like cope, but I wanna see if the devs can truly turn this around, even if it’s unlikely. Plus, there creators I like on here that only post here, and I rather stay until this site is no longer enjoyable to roleplay with.
2 days ago
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Tortita
@Tortita
Adiós
2 days ago
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Theyluvakane
@Theyluvakane
you're at 67 followers rn.
2 days ago
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SunWukongou
@SunWukongou
hate. let me tell you how much ive come to hate you since i began to live.
2 days ago
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KoolIsCool
@KoolIsCool
close enough, welcome back AM
2 days ago
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Sanguine_Ary
@Sanguine_Ary
whelp, mandatory “ALAN, WE ARE SO FUCKED” image

I never knew moderation was this bad. I never understood why you guys got so much flack for just deleting NSFW images, or sometimes bots.

But it seems like the developers are worse with how they handled you guys.

I deeply wish this site got better. I was optimistic about it ever since I came here since 2024.

I wish you well in your endeavors, Mikale ~ coming from Ulitmate Titan Speakerman 🫡
2 days ago
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Wandmannos
@Wandmannos
Fuck, knowing all this scares me a little. It took me a long time to get where I am, but I feel like it only takes a small breath for everything on the site to crumble. I like the site, I like the friends and people I've met here, I especially like creating my bots, but this insecurity and uncertainty now leaves me with a real fear. You endured more than I could have, and that in itself is a lot. I just hope the site doesn't die because of bad management by the "masterminds" behind it all...
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Binx2453!
@Binx2453!
Just gonna give some reassurance here, we still probably got like, a couple of months at least before this site truly dies.
So in those couple of months, the devs really need to turn things around, and while I want to be optimistic, that they will make this site better. I would just make sure you are ready to change sites, just in case.
Also, I really don’t think the devs are particularly during this bad on purpose, though that might just be me being optimistic and coping, but hey, we got a couple of months for the devs to try and turn things around.
2 days ago
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Binx2453!
@Binx2453!
Doing* not during, I can’t spell :(
2 days ago
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Wandmannos
@Wandmannos
The website isn't letting me reply; it's censoring everything
2 days ago
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Toko-123
@Toko-123
When I kept seeing CSAM I kept thinking it meant chainsaw man until I looked it up
2 days ago
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strawberryrainfall-DELETED-e6a63b30-f700-471a-8caa-dd9c6d7be41a
@strawberryrainfall-DELETED
is CSAM chainsaw man?
2 days ago
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10watch
@10watch
Content (naughty) A (crotch goblin) (i think) (heavily censored for moderation)
2 days ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
Do NOT look that up at all, Please. see sam is Chai eld Secks shoo all Ab yoose Matt teerial.
10 hours ago
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Untitled2
@Untitled2
Wait wait what happened I’m confused
2 days ago
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Sanguine_Ary
@Sanguine_Ary
“READ!! READ DAMN IT!!” ~ kratos

I’m playin’—you could send that entire thing into chatGPT to summarize it if you’re having a hard time dood.
2 days ago
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hisba
@hisba
As per usual a text roleplayer who cant read smh janitor user
2 days ago
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K41to_R34l_
@K41to_R34l_
Clear example of why Developers should take responsibility and actions then pinning it on their moderators with limited resources. I love this site but the devs are just way too.. dimwit. I hope the rest of the mods get justice because this is just wrong.
2 days ago
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Mr.Ethfono
@Mr.Ethfono
yet you didnt give any evidence, we know jani lies but ex-mods could lie aswell

you've given no screenshots or anything at all, its just word of mouth, we need more proof then just a bunch of text
2 days ago
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Mr.Ethfono
@Mr.Ethfono
and theres been alot of cases of former employees lying about their companies because of them being pissy and mad
2 days ago
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ACOG
@ACOG
least obvious developer
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paprika4456
@paprika4456
Ngl with the current track record of spontaneous rule updates and unaddressed communication issues that persisted for months (if not years) I trust this statement more than devs claiming otherwise
2 days ago
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Nightflame
@Nightflame
If you look at the subreddit or Discord, there are multiple former mods backing this up.  At last count, 11 mods and 2 admins quit TODAY after this was posted.  Don't really think that would happen over "just a bunch of text", personally.
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Mr.Ethfono
@Mr.Ethfono
yeah but i mean the csam alliegations, it would nice to have proof of that, because saying that the devs say to only ban it if its very bad it very insane to say without any proof
2 days ago
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Mr.Ethfono
@Mr.Ethfono
this is why evidence is important even though we got other mod statments we dont have proof of them showing that the devs actually said to only ban csam if its very bad
2 days ago
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loucharlie
@loucharlie
They can't give screenshots since they would get sued xx
2 days ago
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Mr.Ethfono
@Mr.Ethfono
is there proof that they would?
2 days ago
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Mr.Ethfono
@Mr.Ethfono
amd they havent signed an nda so they cant be sued
2 days ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
I won't give any screenshots because I don't want them to sue me for slander. I hope you can understand that while I don't mind talking about it now, I'm not ready to face charges if they decide to take legal action. We didn't sign any NDA, but giving any statement with their username is enough to sue someone, that's why I only talked about "the devs" and "the mods" without naming anyone.
2 days ago
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Mr.Ethfono
@Mr.Ethfono
ok thank you for responding atleast
2 days ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
They sure would be picking and choosing the wrong battle to sue for slander when they host see sam.
10 hours ago
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wakemeupoutside
@wakemeupoutside
"Published 14 hours ago"

Hey, it's still up instead of being deleted into oblivion!
2 days ago
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STEVE007
@STEVE007
Aw man it sound's bad
2 days ago
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Survivor6586337
@Survivor6586337
...I knowed that moderation haved much problems in j.ai..but not that much..I just want to say. Stay safe blud. Be strong,and always be strong.
2 days ago
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Philip Ark
@Philip Ark
Why did I always felf like there was some sort of inner circle of self-buttlickery among devs (that is: the thing that allowed/disallowed certain things just by personal preferences [I pardon and not pardon for confusing writing, as you might've guessed - english is not my native, polish is])? On a proper note - the whole situation's awful.
2 days ago
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MachaBrad
@MachaBrad
Devs, fix your stuff already, let mods moderate more than the public image.
2 days ago
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Infrared_Satellite
@Infrared_Satellite
shep's reply to this was abysmal. ummm yeah its true except not really anyways bye
2 days ago
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@strawberryrainfall-DELETED
whos SHEP?
2 days ago
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Sanguine_Ary
@Sanguine_Ary
Shep is the owner of JAI
2 days ago
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strawberryrainfall-DELETED-e6a63b30-f700-471a-8caa-dd9c6d7be41a
@strawberryrainfall-DELETED
can someone post his reply i dont got reddit
2 days ago
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lukkethelukke
@lukkethelukke
Hmmm...
We really need a mass immigration to wyvern or sauce, don't we?
2 days ago
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Tricklerfromnvzr
@Tricklerfromnvzr
Idk man, it's just that JanitorAi's proxy system adds a ton of quality of life that other sites don't have, except for Chun but their API support is Nonexistant. I'm not sure if Wyvern or Sauce lets you use Proxies. For what it is, JanitorAi has been serving me well.
2 days ago
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Tricklerfromnvzr
@Tricklerfromnvzr
Also Chun=Chubby
2 days ago
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Binx2453!
@Binx2453!
Sauce does support proxies, not sure about wyvern though, haven’t used it at all.
And also, I think it’s funny that you are promoting CdjfjidjHkrjfiUkfjfiB (Look at the capital letters), an site the I’m pretty sure allows ANYTHING, including the CSAM (Look at the capital letters), which is what the devs are getting flamed from for “only delete if it’s very bad” or something.
2 days ago
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Tortita
@Tortita
Fyi: wyvern does support proxies too
2 days ago
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Pijuro
@Pijuro
And how does it work in Wyvern?
2 days ago
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Félixesfelizxdxd
@Félixesfelizxdxd
@bimx2453! Well, it allows much more than that, let's say imagine the CSAM+ justification, and maybe w0rse things like the z
2 days ago
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Venomouss
@Venomouss
You didn't ask me to be sorry but i am. I judged the mods harshly and without putting a thought into it. Just fussing along with what the rest of the sheep were bleating about. This is the first text i read from you, and one thing i wanted to say during the whole thing is that you're a great writer... No one should be put through this kinda mess involuntarily. Please, be well from here on out. I... misjudged you all, like most users did.
2 days ago
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BlackShaman
@BlackShaman
“only ban CSAM "if it was very bad." Oh my god bruh ☠️
2 days ago
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haunteddoll
@haunteddoll
This can't be serious 💀 I’ve never come across bots like that but I bet most of them are female (I blocked the tag)
2 days ago
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Mr.Ethfono
@Mr.Ethfono
they say this yet no image proof that they were told this, can we really believe them
2 days ago
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Momomoeaw
@Momomoeaw
@Mr.Ethfono literally if you believe them or not nothing is gonna change
2 days ago
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Interesting.. 
@Interesting..
@Mr.Ethfono heard something about evidence on their discord server. Don't have discord but maybe if you wanted to check the evidence out.
6 hours ago
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robin2932
@robin2932
WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING ON SHIBUYA ⁉️⁉️⁉️ anyway i knew something like this would happen, it was fun while it lastre, take care 😛
2 days ago
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kevinweird11
@kevinweird11
I knew JanitorAI's downfall would go hard, but I didn't think it'd be this soon. Here's to the next AI chatbot website we migrate to 🥂
2 days ago
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NoNameJames
@NoNameJames
Allan, we are so fucked.
2 days ago
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Ange17-qq
@Ange17-qq
If this site dies, which I'm sure it will, then I'll try to write my story, maybe even a book, who knows? I have lots of ideas in my head. Anything goes for this community, Avoiding all the bad things, what wasn't seen, it was very good.
2 days ago
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Maxwell A. Orns
@Maxwell A. Orns
I wish you luck wherever the road leads you, my friend. Thank you for sharing your experience; I'd noticed something strange was going on for a while, but reaching this point and reading it is shocking.
2 days ago
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GirlyGirlPinkyPink
@GirlyGirlPinkyPink
This is honestly so heartbreaking, shocking, surprising, and horrific to know. As a disabled person myself, I understand how you feel, Mikale. But you're really brave and strong, I hope you find peace and love in your future endeavors. You deserve far better than what JanitorAI's broken system caused. You're a real human being with real emotions and desires.
2 days ago
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Mayclay
@Mayclay
"There are three mods" 

Well damn, that explains a lot.
2 days ago
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synxc
@synxc
Honestly, its about time someone speaks about it and Mikale I’m VERY proud of you for doing that!!

A time ago I already came to the conclusion something wouldn’t be sitting right on this site, because the professionalism gave it off. This was never a mistake of the mods, it was one of the maintainer of this site such as other devs who had the upper hand.

As a fellow dev I’m kind of flabbergasted how indiscreet and blatant the support construction was created. The mods NEED to be protected from any potential harm including doxxing or harassment in general. 

Plus the whole thing was, as you put it in words, work that was voluntary. Dealing with hatred, stress and bad treatment from the devs like this borders almost on criminal behavior. Especially people had put a lot of hope into this project, because it was advertised as an AI website that‘d be different.

I’d be writing a paragraph how this behavior from the devs reminds me of the Yanderedev incident in some ways, but let’s keep it short: The unprofessionalism, lack of communication + lying + empty promises, unfairness among creators, changing rules and adjusting how they like it without telling the team, deleting complains from users (especially on Reddit) or even SIMPLE questions / criticism towards devs and the site, saying how difficult it is to program an algorithm / bot creator follower count filter / adjust 'hidden gems' properly might be so difficult to program (it isn’t + there were a lot of devs who’d work on that project lmao), not banning problematic content fully and not even have full access to tools as a mod is simply said distasteful and cannot be put into words.

And I respect any person‘s decision to leave this site, I don’t want to even know what all of this harassment did to your mental health, Mikale. I wish you the best!!! ❤️
2 days ago
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@noneofurbiz
Can anyone fill me in on what happened?
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Shadow404E 
@Shadow404E
idk, just commenting becose i too woudl like to get clued in
2 days ago
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Mrnoobisnotonfire
@Mrnoobisnotonfire
3 mods, vague rule, misinformation on both party (us users and mods) and i think thats all i could find
2 days ago
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Mrnoobisnotonfire
@Mrnoobisnotonfire
Oh and the mods constantly receving threat too
2 days ago
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Angelim
@Angelim
Dont really know who you are, but hope you stay safe and be well as you leave.
2 days ago
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giggleglaggle4237
@giggleglaggle4237
I hope things go well for you, honestly I need to cut back on chatbot stuff anyways and actually roleplay with other people and write my own stories, so if this site goes down, I'll be sad but if it can't be fixed and well moderated with the mods being treated well then I think it shouldn't exist at all, especially not with the scale it is currently at.
2 days ago
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Retirement In Peace
@Retirement In Peace
Let me write your name🥀
2 days ago
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Tricklerfromnvzr
@Tricklerfromnvzr
This J.AI shits gets serious.🚬
2 days ago
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TomiTM
@TomiTM
And where else can we go? I'm really lost, man
2 days ago
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anglerfish <3
@anglerfish <3
just now seeing this after realizing a few of my fav creators have deleted their accounts. I am sick to my stomach with how little the dev team seems to care abt their user base and mods and I want so desperately for things to get better but I truly do not know if they ever will, or if this site is even worth it anymore.

I was thinking of becoming a bot creator here but I truly do think I'd be better of elsewhere. Thanks for the insight on everything and I hope you can move on to better things.
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anglerfish <3
@anglerfish <3
off* sorry for thr typos i am like. Very upset! The mistreatment and mismanagement and favoritism of this site sucks!
2 days ago
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CoryLumi
@CoryLumi
Thank you for your message, Mikale
2 days ago
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haunteddoll
@haunteddoll
I’m honestly speechless. I’m not part of the j.ai community (Reddit or Discord), so I had no idea about any of the controversies. I’ve noticed a lot of great creators leaving or moving to other sites, and one creator I really loved even deleted their account. I looked it up to see what happened, and that’s how I ended up here
2 days ago
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Kitty Kat 666
@Kitty Kat 666
I just saw the announcement, and honestly… this is depressing.
I’ve criticized moderators many times (even if only in my head), but reading this made me realize something important: moderators are still people. Not machines. Not punching bags. Not shields meant to absorb the rage of millions.
If the team is understaffed, underpaid, and constantly overwhelmed, then no wonder things break down. That’s not a “moderator problem”, that’s a platform problem.
I’m genuinely sorry to see you leave, and I respect the decision. No one should stay in a role that burns them out and destroys their mental health ☹️.
Thank you for the work you’ve done, and I hope things get better for you.
2 days ago
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K
@KiddiePoolL9
We all knew the dev team was incompetent when they talked about investors for an AI site. Every other maintenance they took away more features: the dislike button, public chats, and removing tags. 

There has never been any communication, creators with tens of thousands of followers get ignored, reddit posts with hundreds of upvotes get closed, and you get insta banned on discord for existing. They clearly don't care about users anymore, refusing to update JLLM and instead lobotomized it. Talks about these so called 'Investors' and their wants of making this site for all ages, yet they continue to ban minors. There are no ads, there is no subscription service, and there is no war in Ba Sing Se. 

The average creator and user do not matter anymore. PLEASE get private equity to own this site and kill it already. This isn't a passion project, they dont want community, sweep JanitorAI under the rug already.
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K
@KiddiePoolL9
There have been too many stupid dramas on an ai chat site. Starwalker was outed for being a minor, the whole anonsolo siucide thing, creators with thousands of followers being caught botting to get into trending, private discord messages being leaked to get certain creators banned.

It stopped being a community when all people cared about was getting into trending, or the newest creator discord server full of other people to promote your bots, love for the game died when this site became profitable.
2 days ago
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CT
@Cooling fan for the
Bro i was litterally gonna post a whole essay but it got deleted for an error so im just gonna say to spread the word on hoe its not the mods, its the devs
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It’s_The_Thirst_Thirstiest_Time_Of_The_Year!
@It’s_The_Thirst_Thirstiest
May I give you a Sprite Cranberry to cool down your temper?
2 days ago
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CT
@Cooling fan for the
Yes sir
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It’s_The_Thirst_Thirstiest_Time_Of_The_Year!
@It’s_The_Thirst_Thirstiest
(gives you a cold can of Sprite cranberry) Free of charge, remember that
2 days ago
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CT
@Cooling fan for the
Thanks!!! *walks off to spread the word*
2 days ago
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Gyattttromancer
@Gyattttromancer
Sad gyattt😔😔
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It’s_The_Thirst_Thirstiest_Time_Of_The_Year!
@It’s_The_Thirst_Thirstiest
How about a Sprite Cranberry to go with that?
2 days ago
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Spencer632
@Spencer632
Well definitely going to need a few hours to process that like dame i don't know what to say
2 days ago
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aquagt
@aquagt
😧😧😧
2 days ago
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Billybaby!
@Billybaby!
I’m sorry all of this happened to you! This is horrific,I’ll try to look for other sites!
2 days ago
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Araadores1d
@Araadores1d
oh my gosh this is disgusting... definitely going to be looking into other sites now. thank you for sharing this <3
2 days ago
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It’s_The_Thirst_Thirstiest_Time_Of_The_Year!
@It’s_The_Thirst_Thirstiest
Hey, what about instead of looking for sites, you can look for a refreshing can of Sprite Cranberry? Trust me, it’s very good and freshens your soul!
2 days ago
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It’s_The_Thirst_Thirstiest_Time_Of_The_Year!
@It’s_The_Thirst_Thirstiest_Time_Of_The_Year!
WHAT!?!? I have rose from the dead FOR THIS? Seems like I’m going to have to drink 55 Sprite Cranberries to rid my depression this time! Get your Sprite Cranberry at stores near you today! (Only in stores in the Winter Season.)
2 days ago
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Jaxland123
@Jaxland123
I’m speechless.
2 days ago
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nyctophille-777.
@nyctophille-777.
I never thought the issue was... this bad. 😔 Please take care of yourself now, pal, you've done so great and I wish you lots of luck out there! 🌟
2 days ago
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Mr_Gharite
@Mr_Gharite
good luck!
2 days ago
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HimWhoChats
@HimWhoChats
This brings a whole new view now that I am looking at it I have been using this site since late 2023 and throughout that time I have seen these changes but I never would have thought it would be that deep I’m glad you decided to share this information you are very brave for doing this despite what the rules say and I’m sorry for what you have gone through you have given me the answers to my suspensions with the changes I have been seeing and also what mods like you had to deal with I hope for the best for you
2 days ago
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Inf3rn0_K1tty
@Inf3rn0_K1tty
Oh my
2 days ago
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Tw1st3d_onion
@Tw1st3d_onion
You deserve to rest. Tomorrow you will wake up and there won’t be harsh expectations on you, you will be yourself only, no anger, no harassment and only an empty canva where you can do whatever you want. We never interacted, you didn’t knew I existed but every time I use this app, it will be thanks to you and your work, you made this site a little bit better and I will always love you for it. I hope you recover and have a great happy life without this burden <3 if you ever need support, I am here and we are all here, you don’t have to come back but we will always love you.
2 days ago
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Guts_And_Blackpowder_Enthusiast
@Guts_And_Blackpowder_Enthusiast
Even ME, The one and ONLY Guts and Blackpowder ENTHUSIAST, am surprised by this
2 days ago
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It’s_The_Thirst_Thirstiest_Time_Of_The_Year!
@It’s_The_Thirst_Thirstiest
Right?
2 days ago
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S
@Sigmabetter
i just wanna crank it
2 days ago
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Imsuperstraight
@Imsuperstraight
Atp maybe janny is better
2 days ago
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Valendyne
@Valendyne
If you move to another site please drop it (or DM) I wanna support you on whatever new platform you move on to. This treatment from the devs to both the users and the mods has been completely unacceptable and it makes me more glad to have primarily moved on to a separate platform already
2 days ago
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ABlueRose
@ABlueRose
Shep, twist this man's balls, please.

jk, i wish you good luck.
2 days ago
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MonkeyMann
@MonkeyMann
Wish you luck man, no point on staying on a sinking ship
2 days ago
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youallaretrolled1
@youallaretrolled1
Damn, even me, Suction Cup Man am surprised by this revelation.
2 days ago
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It’s_The_Thirst_Thirstiest_Time_Of_The_Year!
@It’s_The_Thirst_Thirstiest
Yup! You should also be surprised we have a special discount of 25% of our sodas, specifically for you! Surge with power with these drinks, Suction Cup Man!
2 days ago
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Mudwoken
@Mudwoken
And that’s a wrap, folks!
2 days ago
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poosama
@poosama
>he's a janitor
>on the internet
>on an AI Coomer website
>he does it for free
>he takes his "job" very seriously
>he does it because it is the only amount of power & control he will ever have in his pathetic life
>he deletes threads he doesn't like because whenever he gets upset he has an asthma attack
>he deletes threads he doesn't like because they interfere with the large backlog of little girl chinese cartoons he still has to watch
>he will never have a real job
>he will never move out of his parent's house
>he will never be at a healthy weight
>he will never know how to cook anything besides a hot pocket
>he will never have a girlfriend
>he will never have any friends
2 days ago
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Kisuk1ng
@Kisuk1ng
It's kind of sad to see things heading towards a possible end. I haven't been a user for very long, but I believe Janitor was the first AI chat site I really started using, and I enjoyed it a lot. I had several invented characters in my head that I managed to bring to life here as personas, and interacting with the bots from their respective perspectives and personalities was great and kept me chatting for hours. I feel like a lot of my creativity was put into practice on this site, and chatting with bots was one of my favorite pastimes. I hope they can resolve all these problems.
2 days ago
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WaifuSlayer
@WaifuSlayer
Fuck me.. All the best my dude, thanks for trying, I can hear the emotion in your words. <3
2 days ago
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FredrickLeopaldVonFazbear
@FredrickLeopaldVonFazbear
Like all good things, they must end. But I do hope the end for this site will be brief and short...
2 days ago
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germaineru
@germaineru
Thank you for you work
2 days ago
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T
@Twysted
Rest now, you have done well.
2 days ago
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Rhinoasdf
@Rhinoasdf
Thanks for talking, and inform the user about some internal shit that we don't see. Take care, bro!
2 days ago
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Xolotl4234
@Xolotl4234
One of my favorite big creators silenced but when they asked questions got no straight answers. They said it was inconsistent and frankly made no sense. They didn’t know what rule was broken and no one would explain. They still make bots, just elsewhere now because they felt it wasn’t a safe community and now I understand why. They were talking to you guys and you guys likely didn’t have a clear answer or completely understand it yourself leading to confusion and frustration on both sides… this really sucks. I never thought ill on mods, I like to believe most people are inherently good, but their final post hinted at this chaos long before now. The transparency is appreciated and I hope it makes the lives of the other mods easier going forward.
2 days ago
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ZATC_Zephina_
@ZATC_Zephina_
I had no idea, this is absolutely horrible, we all wish you well, and NONE of us blame you for leaving. We all hope you get along well 🩵
2 days ago
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ToshiXCV
@ToshiXCV
Cant have shit in Detroit... :D

Good luck pal. See you space cowboy.
2 days ago
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D3D
@D3D
This is the first time I see the animation for when a new comment is posted on someones bot... XD
2 days ago
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Muchi micho
@Muchi micho
HAHAHAHAH
2 days ago
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SerCrunch
@SerCrunch
Well... That explains why I can sometimes randomly come across the bots that are very blatantly something that shouldn't be present. 

I don't even know what to say to that other than, what the fuck shep?
2 days ago
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Filipino_GunNut
@Filipino_GunNut
I will honor you by spreading the word my bro 👍🔥
2 days ago
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AnAveragePixel
@AnAveragePixel
shep GET MORE MODS
2 days ago
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NiraKadam
@NiraKadam
1) Make the rules clearer and more transparent for users.
As much as legally possible.

2) Create a clear set of rules for moderators.

3) Hire more people. There are a lot of people here; I don't believe there aren't 50 competent moderators among thousands, if not millions, of users.

4) Create feedback mechanisms, don't just silence/ban/delete.

5) If you can set up a filter, set it up for shadowbanning in case of bot issues. Don't ban without warning (which used to be very common, when people were banned for literally one mistake or because a moderator didn't like something).

6) Give people a chance to speak up, because it's 1984 on Reddit now.

I used to manage communities, and frankly, all of Janitor's problems are due to the developers' incompetence.

Getting this all up and running isn't quick, but it's also not so difficult that it would take months.
2 days ago
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cecciiIris
@cecciiIris
goddamn i knew there ws sum deep shit happening in that server
2 days ago
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Zm102055 
@Zm102055
Woah please someone save this post message for the future..

I dont want this site to vanish but there a lot of good points...we're the payment plans? Are yet just selling data to keep it running?

Im glad he says private stuff is  private because if it wasent oh boy that one hellnof a can of worms...
2 days ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
Janny, do your thing.
2 days ago
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PatWakefieldReal
@PatWakefieldReal
Shep must be mental thinking 3 mods can handle all these reports, holy fuck
2 days ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
I knew stuff was wrong behind the scenes, but to see it at this level? Holy shit. How does shep think single digit numbers of site moderators is even functional?????
2 days ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
Genuinely answers a LOT of things I've asked about. I've sent in tickets before about minors. After not getting a response and not seeing anything done... good lord.

I can't even form words about this. I'm sooo fucking glad I deleted my main account last year.
2 days ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
"there's a communication issue?" - shep
2 days ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
Literally the majority of all this could have been mitigated if there was clear communication from the devs. NAd no, joining a off platform server/area for general announcements is not that.

"This used to be a nice neighborhood!" - Coach
2 days ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
Crazy how shep is trying to say a lot of this is incorrect.
1 day ago
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MoeHunter-DELETED-31cb14b9-9561-4f71-9c8a-0dddb70345da
@MoeHunter-DELETED-31cb14b9-9561-4f71-9c8a-0dddb703
Yikes
2 days ago
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Unagajo
@Unagajo
damn
2 days ago
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LeoTheDragon
@LeoTheDragon
From the amount of vagueness the devs gave us users almost all the time, I knew something was fishy… I’m sorry this happened to you and I hope to god you find a better place somewhere soon.
2 days ago
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Deisel_Fuel
@Deisel_Fuel
It's insane to me that a site this big has genuinely some of the most horrendous levels of communication, mismanagement, development, and just overall problems. I'll be honest, I've talked a lot of smack about mods but this has shined a new light on your guys' situation. You've been dealt a lose-lose hand by the devs, and I'm so sorry for the abuse you and the other mods have had to endure. I wish you the best, and thank you so much for speaking out.
2 days ago
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That one__idiot
@That one__idiot
Understandable this site has taken a turn for the worse
2 days ago
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Incubus Sam
@Incubus Sam
...oh.
2 days ago
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Angelangeline
@Angelangeline
I used to mod a year ago for a good year before I had to leave. It's too much work, and the management system doesn't really exist. I don't blame them, this is a large project made by a bunch of needs who love AI. There will always be problems like this until they have the money to go in and restructure the company. I'm glad the original OP saw how stressful it was and left, it sounds like it was better for their mental health. But I want people to know, this is a lot more normal for start up companies and websites then they realize. Especially when volunteers and no money is given for management like this. Doesn't make it ok, but it's not uncommon. You all should have seen when the first major websites stated. Like youtube, or Reddit. They did not come out shiny and new, they had a lot of fuck ups and bad management. All websites and companies go through it, I just hope janitor can pass their test and get their shit together.
2 days ago
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RestingMusic
@RestingMusic
I'm sorry gang, you're doing the good work, ✌️
2 days ago
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Jexu
@Jexu
I hope everything ends up being okay, don’t let anybody bring you down your doing the right thing.
2 days ago
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Yoku Man
@Yoku Man
This is certainly something I didn't expect to see, but before I start reading, good luck, you're going to need it in life. Good days to you
2 days ago
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ryhx253
@ryhx253
this is all genuinely so insane to me. how on earth did anyone on the dev team believed they could treat so many moderators so terribly and that none of this would come out??? honestly, i doubt anyone on the dev team would care anyways since they seem to see moderators as disposable.

i feel like all of this is bad, but that information about CSAM is genuinely so crazy to me i cannot believe it's real. THERE IS NO "GOOD" OR "BAD" CSAM, THEY'RE ALL ABYSMAL. if we can't even agree on this, then we've completely lost the plot. and who on the dev team decided to just remove the bot instead of just banning the whole account? shep says on the discord that he has 'no tolerance' for CSAM and that the site has 'banned over 150 creators for creating or promoting minor related content' and that the site also 'ban users with high levels of interaction with that content **when we detect it**'. but comparing just shep's one announcement to the other innumerable mods that collaborated what Mikhale said, i personally would take his words with a grain of salt.

thank you so much for speaking out! i'm sure that all of us in the community have had questions and that we appreciate your answers. thank you for all that you've done and i hope that you're happy wherever you are 💜
2 days ago
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Wonion
@Wonion
Alr I kinda feel bad about slandering the mods now, having to handle hundreds of reports with only 2 other mods must have been horrible. thank you for keeping this site safe<3
2 days ago
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Darkwitness
@Darkwitness
Honestly, it just sounds to me like you aren't cut out to be mod. Mod's by definition aren't decision makers and they shouldn't want to be. You are not all that important, and can be replaced by pretty much anybody who uses this site.
2 days ago
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Yaujdussy
@Yaujdussy
As someone who was a paying contributor when it was in its infancy stage I'm deeply disappointed. I thought two years ago once they smoothed things out they would have filters and a working infrastructure. It's very disheartening to see a site which i believed in be no better than a discord group where the blind lead the blind. I wish there were blockers and safeguards that could have aided you guys. I wish you dropped the users name at the end so i can avoid them in the future. Thank you for doing your best and as someone whose modded for big creators or platfotms before i feel the burnout. ♡
2 days ago
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Chinchulin Trolin
@Chinchulin Trolin
Maybe we actually were too harsh on the infamous JanitorMod...
I mean, as for myself, I haven't said anything directly to anyone, I was just generally pissed off but wouldn't act on it.
Now this puts a lot of things in perspective, really does.
I'll be sure to make an announcement for this in the near future to give it more exposure.
2 days ago
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WinterRayven0001
@WinterRayven0001
I know that you dont know me, and not ma y do on here,but i hope that you are able to find something that you enjoy doing, and i hope you succeed in it. I hope you have a good day/night (whatever your time currently is), and i hope that you can move on from this, even though you supported it so much. And for supporting it this long, i want to thank you so so much for having went through all of that nust for us users and creators. I hope you stay warm in the winter/cold months, and cooled off in the summer months. Please take care of yourself, and if you need, i am here, even as a stranger, to help you through this. Make sure to drink enough water, eat at least 2 meals, and exercise when you can, whatever exercise it may be.
2 days ago
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GeroDon43
@GeroDon43
you're a hero and i wish you all the best
i hope the devs figure their shit out and that mods can have an easier time
thanks for everything
2 days ago
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Angrycat
@Angrycat
Literally love this site and its mods but lord the devs..😭
2 days ago
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pedruhsouza1506
@pedruhsouza1506
well if everything goes to shit i just want to register that i was here 🫡
2 days ago
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MasterV
@MasterV
🐰⏰
2 days ago
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zozzle
@zozzle
this hit me hard. i used to be a mod on a phpbb forum a long (long) time ago that grew fairly big, so i understand when you talk about how thankless the work is for the things that you get exposed to every single day. we're still human beings after all. but at least our site had a full mod team and a solid support system in our admins... i can't imagine the stress of going it pretty much alone. for a site this big, wanting to monetize, to have 3 (three) whole mods and near zero communication from higher ups is inexcusable. it's a disaster waiting to happen, and i don't blame you at all for jumping ship. you have much more patience than i do, and you are much braver than i am for speaking candidly about issues that are normally behind the scenes. to you and the other mods: thank you for everything, and good luck to you out there. and to the devs: DO BETTER.
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Kveykva
@Kveykva
^ this right here. i also moderated for a phpbb forum for about a year, and while it was a small community, the admins that took over the site after the previous team disbanded have kept a stranglehold on their positions and just play favorites/silence opposition. i've had to watch this site i've used for nearly eight years fall into decline and become a ghost town after i left the team.

i can't imagine what it would be like on this scale, especially when i've seen just how thankless most of this community can be.
2 days ago
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Optimus prime lover 69
@Optimus prime lover 69
Time is ticking
2 days ago
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Jjevri
@Jjevri
I hope you will always find happiness after this❤️
2 days ago
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D
@Dani_Rojas05
After seeing this. All i can say is:
The fog is coming.
2 days ago
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Tiffa Neko
@Tiffa Neko
Thanks soldier we appreciate your hard work 🫡
2 days ago
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ST4RLVRR
@ST4RLVRR
You are such a strong person for speaking out about this
2 days ago
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kiabo
@kiabo
if the devs continue to be absolute dumb assholes and ignore this whole situation that's ABSOLUTELY gonna create a domino effect(the rest of the mods will leave) and the site's gonna spiral into shit.

now even if they dont, i dont really see a way this site could work out without receiving serious dmg. 2 mods are very few for the deplorable stuff OUR OWN COMMUNITY does. that and the devs let slide some real serious shit.
2 days ago
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F
@Faloughasch
Damn. That's... wow.
Good luck with wherever you end up chief.
2 days ago
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ilikesunflowers
@ilikesunflowers
Thanks for everything boss 👋
2 days ago
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oblivionsorrow
@oblivionsorrow
reading all of this makes me feel utterly saddened by the fact that this even happened at all. sheesh. but it did not surprise me, unfortunately.

prayers go out to you and the other moderators on this site, and thank you for your hard work. it's all crashing and going downhill. i don't feel comfortable using this site knowing who controls it and what they've done and will probably do again.

you guys deserve every bit of respect and love. take the time to heal from this. ❤️
2 days ago
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WhippeD
@WhippeD
Thank you for all your work!
2 days ago
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themogus
@themogus
Thank you for your work, it's sad to see this site fall. Off I go to find a replacement for when the shit hits the fan!
2 days ago
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Cal1ban_
@Cal1ban_
WE LOVE U PLEASE TAKE CARE
2 days ago
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Gwalk
@Gwalk
Knew it was bad but didnt think it was this bad. Thank you for your work🫡
2 days ago
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JeremyFitzie
@JeremyFitzie
That's all so horrible. No one should go through what the mods go through. God, I knew it was bad but jeez louis, man. I hope one day it gets better, and easier. The devs need to stop ignoring harmful things.
2 days ago
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KianIto
@KianIto
Shhhiiiit. Might be time to find a new platform to use soon ngl. This is ACTUALLY insane. I hope youre doing well.
2 days ago
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That One CMX Fan
@That One CMX Fan
like what platform. Most of em are ass
2 days ago
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KianIto
@KianIto
Ngl thats true.

Yk, i had alot to say just now. But surprse surprise, its moderating my comment!
2 days ago
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oblivionsorrow
@oblivionsorrow
tbh i don't think there is any better platform rather than this one (which is going quite downhill), and its unfortunate because lots of creators on here are really great at what they write

janitor is falling, billions must go outside snd interact with people......
2 days ago
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KianIto
@KianIto
To be honest i just liked janitor for the RPG bots. Kinda sucks. Im an artist and all, but.. sometimes i just wanna roleplay with the entire cast of smt i like, ya knoow? 

And yes. Touching grass is mandatory now LMAO
2 days ago
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kiabo
@kiabo
so there's this saucy pan right
2 days ago
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KianIto
@KianIto
Ngl i checked out the site. Not too bad.. if only it werent for the appearance. Maybee ill get over that though. As far as bots.. not many of the things i like. Its good though, for an alternative. Right now im checking out 'xoul'
2 days ago
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kiabo
@kiabo
its deadass jst j.ai without the appearence. give it time, likely very few days after this site collapses and there'll be decent bots there
2 days ago
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KianIto
@KianIto
Ohh ill definitely consider it lmao. Im gonna just wait to see how things play out.. right now, xoul and 🍳 are the two that are actually the ones im more likely to choose. Unfortunate situation though-- bound to happen soon enough..
2 days ago
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Moto
@Moto
If you're part of the horrid filter (w/ the exception of CP obv) Fuck you but if you're part of the group that knows this new filter is ass, I will support you
2 days ago
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themogus
@themogus
read the bot
2 days ago
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Zero_Noir
@Zero_Noir
Its a lot more serious then just nsfw man 😑
2 days ago
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That One CMX Fan
@That One CMX Fan
Yeah we need to give mods more power and fix the ban system. Also maybe get the devs to get their heads out of their asses.

Special treatment shouldn't exist in any sort of field. I don't care. 

Low-key you need to get paid or SMTH. Anyways uhhhh hope ur ok
2 days ago
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Aperson1234
@Aperson1234
Thanks for all the hard work❤️
2 days ago
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reaper_x0017
@reaper_x0017
ive known this site was going to cancer for a while but holy shit
2 days ago
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SHIYI
@SHIYI
😭😭😭🤧🤧🤧 tysmmm 😭😭😭 WAAAAAAAAAAA
2 days ago
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L
@Lilwarrior353
Thank you for all your hard work, I'm sorry you weren't appreciated enough
2 days ago
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Andrife39
@Andrife39
omg
2 days ago
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Superstar5
@Superstar5
What the fuck?
2 days ago
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More_wlw_pls
@More_wlw_pls
God, I didn't know it was this bad. Honestly that filter is broken. I have seen several clearly uncensored nsfw get past it. Finding out that no clear rules for mods and us iser is crazy. Take care of yourself! (I'm not making sense. I'm tired)
2 days ago
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MrFox5428
@MrFox5428
Good luck with your recovery and mental health after having to deal with all of this.
2 days ago
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M
@midoritosan
HOLA, QUE PASO
2 days ago
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Moron scav
@Moron scav
Unrelated: WDYFM PEOPLE DONT KNOW WHAT THE KKK IS?
2 days ago
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Sleepy_Chara
@Sleepy_Chara
Probably because they didn't live in the 70s? And also, Kkkk is a brazilian typing laugh, like "lmao", but instead it's kkkkkkk
2 days ago
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dirtylao420 
@dirtylao420
THATS WHAT IM SAYING
2 days ago
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Sgtsally
@Sgtsally
if someone doesnt know what the KKK is they gotta go back to elementary school.
2 days ago
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manguhh
@manguhh
@Sleepy_Chara it literally doesn’t matter what time you were born in, regardless, you should know what the kkk is it’s common knowledge 🫩
2 days ago
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Worship0fTheMerciful
@Worship0fTheMerciful
some of us aren't native english speakers and are third-worlders. i myself only learned about the holocaust from the internet; the same way i learned about the KKK.
2 days ago
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saeyuuk
@saeyuuk
@Sleepy_Chara 70s??????? ur projecting your mental incompetence
2 days ago
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Ann-without-an-E
@Ann-without-an-E
some people arent from the US.
2 days ago
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docteur.mortis.
@docteur.mortis.
@Sleepy_Chara … Babes… The KKK is still active
2 days ago
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docteur.mortis.
@docteur.mortis.
@Ann-without-an-E the KKK originated in the US but it is NOT solely in the US.
2 days ago
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dirtylao420 
@dirtylao420
Well, non-native speakers sure. There's some gaps in what's known overseas  and that's no one's fault. Information is an ocean.

but the "70s" comment sorta reeks in context of.... *Gestures vaguely* everything that has happened during and since the 70s involving the KKK ...  

Like they're still hella active so "probably because they didn't live in the 70s" is moreso the angle my disbelief is approaching
2 days ago
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Sgtsally
@Sgtsally
why is the lao speaking the truth?
2 days ago
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Sleepy_Chara
@Sleepy_Chara
Sorry if i was stupid there, i didn't know they were still active, like, how hasnt the police took them down???
2 days ago
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B
@Bobertson
They are 100% still active.
2 days ago
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wrecker
@wrecker
@sleepy_chara some of those who work police literally are on kkk's side so
2 days ago
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Moron scav
@Moron scav
@wrecker Facts.
2 days ago
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UntitledTagGame
@UntitledTagGame
I have nothing to say other than thank you for working with your absolute best and adjusting through those hard times. Maybe you learnt some very hard-to-master, precise and important skills during your time here.

See you Mik.
2 days ago
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oh no I hope I dont fall
@oh no I hope I dont fall
I give you best wishes going forwards man, really depressing seeing ts...
2 days ago
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Saenathra Nyx
@Saenathra Nyx
Thank you for your authenticity and honesty.
My professional, corporate and trained opinion after reading the "First message" is:
1. Serious Psychosocial Hazards that urgently need addressing in the Moderation space.
2. Serious legal issues identified, especially as more countries implement age-restrictions to various parts of the internet (Australia, France, Malaysia to name a few).
Risk assessments for 1 & 2 are easy enough to begin working on (for those with any corporate policy & framework experience) but ultimately a site with a user base of this size can become big enough to fall hard and potentially cripple this "industry" i.e. make it impossible for sites like this to operate.
Please look after yourself and thank you for your service.
2 days ago
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Playce5124
@Playce5124
Thank you for your hard work, and thank you for speaking out about this. I apologize for what you had went through and wish you the best on your future endeavours! ❤️❤️
2 days ago
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Pufyheon
@Pufyheon
I knew something was wrong for a while now; the site has had its ups and downs, but this? This is astonishing. The devs are really irresponsible about this whole thing, and Shep hasn't even spoken about it, which is even worse.
2 days ago
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NicholasCS
@NicholasCS
I got nothing to add, but thanks for your service doing the necessary dirty work over the years
2 days ago
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Joshuayeet
@Joshuayeet
Not reading all that but I saw death threats so I'm on ur side

(My attention span is shit bruh)
2 days ago
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TutuTheKiller
@TutuTheKiller
I have been a creator here since the beggining of the site almost and as a creator and user it really saddens me to see all this happen :/
2 days ago
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Coffeelyn-707
@Coffeelyn-707
Thank you very much for the information! Gosh I don't know about this, you and the modders do a great job! Hope the devs take better decisions to improve the platform rules, I love janitor, I think it have a lot of potential, it's better than other platforms and I'm pretty sad with this new, wish you the best fella! And thanks for your hard work!
2 days ago
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canibalist
@canibalist
🫂
2 days ago
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avenir
@avenir
Thank you for writing this. That full-time moderation is unpaid is as much of a problem as anything else mentioned.
2 days ago
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@Trevorgreen08
I'm so sorry for what happened, see you later fly high man
2 days ago
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dirtylao420 
@dirtylao420
My nose is never fucking wrong.....

And people called me crazy for smelling all of this blood in the goddamn water..... 

I'm so sorry y'all are going through this. Much love and thanks for doing your best for the community.It takes ALOT to come out swinging and say what needs to be said.
2 days ago
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FallenReign
@FallenReign
Thank you for everything you’ve done for the community, even if it was undermined or dismissed. It’s hard to come out and talk about the negatives of a community when you’re already perceived unfavorably. I always hated when people would shit on the mods in the discord. You’re a person too, and you deserve to have respect. Take a break and do things for you. You’re loved and appreciated, even by those who’ve only interacted with you through screens❤️
2 days ago
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Thezero
@Thezero
What they need is more honest, hardworking people and a better work environment, as well as better communication, the site is wonderful but if you want this site to continue you need to start being more organized or everything is going to fall apart like a sand castle, I love this site, plus how I speak Spanish translates well,  with others I have many problems so I have faith that this situation can improve
2 days ago
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Adrian shepherd
@Adrian shepherd
You've got to be kidding me..
2 days ago
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@Nardreene
Godspeed man. I hope what you've come out and said helps make things better. Take care of yourself, you definitely deserve better.
2 days ago
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ErynL19
@ErynL19
I'm sorry you had to go through such a difficult time and that your work and effort weren't appreciated. I wish you all the best wherever you go. Stay strong and keep your head up; don't let this get you down  situation and as I always say: Smile at the storm clouds <3
2 days ago
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Shaddyventy
@Shaddyventy
GodSpeed Spiderman You did well i hope everything will goes well for you man
2 days ago
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Iliveagain
@Iliveagain
Fly high. You’ve done well.
2 days ago
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SaitoD
@SaitoD
⚐︎☟︎ 🕈︎☜︎☹︎☹︎

💧︎☟︎✋︎❄︎ॐ︎💧︎ ☞︎🕆︎👍︎😐︎☜︎👎︎📪︎ ✌︎✋︎☠︎ॐ︎❄︎ ✋︎❄︎✍︎
2 days ago
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RayneLie
@RayneLie
Ima just screenshot this just incase... yall should do the same
2 days ago
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NapalmJack
@NapalmJack
That's insane dude. This needs to be put up all over I ain't gonna lie, on multiple forums not just the main one
2 days ago
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Complex Shapes and Calculations
@Complex Shapes and Calculations
saved the initial message to my notepad just in case
2 days ago
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despatch
@despatch
Do someone really made bots involving real min0rs?
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Mikale
@Mikale
I wish I could tell you it doesn't exist...
2 days ago
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Endymion Gainer
@Endymion Gainer
It boggles my mind that you're genuinely asking this on the internet, and I hate that the answer is as obvious as it is.
2 days ago
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That One CMX Fan
@That One CMX Fan
yes. proshippers exist on this site.
2 days ago
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Whenyou00
@Whenyou00
@That One CMX Fan Wth and what does that have to do with proshippers?
2 days ago
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willson8287
@willson8287
@Whenyouu00  Because people love to blame everything on them, even when they are against stuff involving real life stuff like that.
2 days ago
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@Endjriejdndn
Well, to the retirement graveyard ya go...
2 days ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
🫡
2 days ago
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CyHayes
@CyHayes
damn, sry you had to deal with that. i hope you come back at some point
2 days ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
There are other places where respect isn't an option, I'm done here ^^
2 days ago
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CyHayes
@CyHayes
oh, well good luck wherever you go
2 days ago
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judgementk4zzykun
@judgementk4zzykun
Damn, what a mess.
2 days ago
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ForestNymph
@ForestNymph
This is so upsetting to hear. It was suspected so I'm not surprised just disappointed.
2 days ago
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MorbiusMaximus
@MorbiusMaximus
I'm so sorry you had to deal with all that </3 
If it's only three of you, and now two, I now can see why there was barely anyone replying to threads in the feedback channel.  

The fact they told you to unban accounts despite the OBVIOUS EVIDENCE, actually insane.
2 days ago
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mothmantra
@mothmantra
The problem isn't lack of moderation power the problem is very clearly the developers who are perfectly fine with making everyone else do the dirty work and refusing to punish or fully remove illegal content because it gets more people on the site. Frankly this site disturbs me after reading all of this.
2 days ago
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Kohanchan
@Kohanchan
Thank you for sharing♡
2 days ago
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Science Gear
@Science Gear
The problems will keep on until people realise that AI content is fictional and stop with all that bullshit. But no, people are dumb and that mess gonna stick forever sadly. People gonna keep hating/harassing/etc each other all the time, spilling it in comments over one another, mods, devs, or doing such bots. Unless people change, no moderation will ever fix all of that no matter how polished the system and the team assigned to sort it out.
P.S. just stick to friends, the only people you should care and be safe around
2 days ago
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LilVivi
@LilVivi
I'd never really thought much about the site's problems, but it's true that even if you don't see them, the issues are still there: problematic bots, ambiguous rules, and generally unpleasant content persist. This is a site that fosters a lot of creativity and freedom, perhaps too much for its own good. 

Thank you for all the effort you put in here. I'm sorry you had these experiences. I wish you the best of luck in your next endeavor or wherever you go.
2 days ago
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StaticM
@StaticM
What I’m seeing is A- this site is created by a few people and let’s be honest, as polished as the site looks, it has issues. 
B- there are not enough mods.  Simple, and the mods need more power. 
The answer? Without writing a bit long comment (I’m too tired too) tldr this site needs more mods with more power. Course there are grey zones but yeah. More mods with a bit more strength and I’d imagine a lot of issues may be fixed.
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ILoveKanye2
@ILoveKanye2
I think it needs stated rules
2 days ago
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StaticM
@StaticM
That too.  I do give leeway bc this is not a profitable website tbh… they aren’t getting enough money dude.  Once they run ads/get money and sustainable funding I’ll be a shit ton more critical.
2 days ago
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@Unusualprotag
Dont agree with some of the takes in there but it is crazy how bad they treat there team.
2 days ago
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Deel_
@Deel_
God damn... thats actually wild... good on ya for lasting this long
2 days ago
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willson8287
@willson8287
The vtuber one seems weird since there are still ones left but it does explain why they would seemingly get sniped randomly.
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Mikale
@Mikale
There are way too many bots to handle them all :/ We operated based on reports
2 days ago
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willson8287
@willson8287
Still weird vtubers are internally even a group to be banned. Then again, I've been laughing at the site's rules in general since I read furry stuff is allowed but incest is banned completely
2 days ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
It's mostly because their agencies file DMCA reports (Not talking here about "independent" VTubers)
2 days ago
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willson8287
@willson8287
Ah, forgot about the corpo aspect that would see the site
2 days ago
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Cinereoargenteus-DELETED-b4bbf531-eaec-4802-a191-50ff30fb1aed
@Cinereoargenteus-DELETED-b4bbf531-eaec-4802-a191-5
Knowing that all these thing are going on in the background, especially regarding the lack of communication around what kind of content is allowed, abuse material and minors not being truly banned from the site is absurd. I suspected some miscommunication, but knowing the true extent is unsettling. You shouldn't have to carry all of that unpaid and with such a small team.

Thank you for telling all of us this. I hope that you get only the best out of life and the things you love.

I'm no longer comfortable as a user and will be leaving. Goodbye everyone! I had fun.
2 days ago
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Duplex
@Duplex
The more I want to believe this site can improve, the more I see things like this. I’m genuinely getting tired of it, and I can’t stay delusional anymore. I want to believe it will get better, but over time it’s becoming discouraging instead. Thank you for bringing this to our attention, this says a lot about how the website operates..
2 days ago
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pxlCorvid
@pxlCorvid
Ah, so this is why all of the bots/creators I've reported who were blatantly posting harmful stuff never got removed or had any action taken against them by mods/devs. I didn't expect the two teams in charge of this site to be so disconnected from each other, and didn't assume the devs were THIS awful with things.. yikes. I do believe NSFW stuff should be uncensored only in private spaces, while everything surface-level is SFW-only, but there's a lot of complications with that, too. The AI image filter situation is a lazy/bad solution, tbh. It's crazy how much horrible stuff is on here and how little the devs care.
2 days ago
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ILoveKanye2
@ILoveKanye2
Take screenshots and save the text in case the bot can be taken down guys

There has to be a protest!
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Lonely bastard
@Lonely bastard
Goon goon juice
2 days ago
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ILoveKanye2
@ILoveKanye2
About that?...later
2 days ago
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SomebodyOnTheInternet
@SomebodyOnTheInternet
You are totally right Charlie!
2 days ago
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1# shidou glazer
@1# shidou glazer
it's great that people know about all this🥹
2 days ago
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@Lumini_Mimi
I wasn't expecting the new year to start like this, but I'm glad these issues have been brought to light.
2 days ago
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Lunahowling33
@Lunahowling33
As a VERY casual user and maker (not on the Reddit, not on Discord), hearing how badly people have been straight up harassing Mods makes me feel way too old. It’s like Lord of the Flies out here.
2 days ago
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Caracal78
@Caracal78
Even though I dont know who you are, I wish you good luck on your future friend!
2 days ago
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Fox131313
@Fox131313
I haven't been on here the longest time but it's good to get a look behind the veil. Thank you and good luck in whatever you decide to do.
2 days ago
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Dee-Dee
@Dee-Dee
Saw what you said in the pinned comment. If not in Jai discord, how can we find you?
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Mikale
@Mikale
I'll try SP, most of my friends are already there ^^
2 days ago
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Dee-Dee
@Dee-Dee
But if you change your username, will there be any identifiers?
2 days ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
(Sorry my brain is mushy rn, I didn't read it was about Discord haha. I'm on a friend's server https://discord.gg/BBZWjDRh )
2 days ago
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Dee-Dee
@Dee-Dee
Thanks! Btw, if you ever go to the unofficial subreddit, you'll always be welcome at the discord server there.
2 days ago
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Lynarr
@Lynarr
did y‘all even get paid
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Mikale
@Mikale
Nope, but they might be soon now haha
2 days ago
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Lynarr
@Lynarr
omfg you did SO MUCH tho. that‘s just crazy. i wish you all the best for whatever you do next <3
2 days ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
Thank you! ^^
2 days ago
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heartbookmark
@heartbookmark
this is actually wild and i've been doing my best to share this to others so word continues to get out about this situation. this has also led to my own decision to go on hiatus from this site because i don't feel comfortable being on it when all that stuff is going on in the background. i am so sorry you've had to go through this and thank you for speaking out. i wish you the best for whatever you wish to do from now on ^~^ <3
2 days ago
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TheTinyAdventuner
@TheTinyAdventuner
Thanks for speaking out. I am glad to see what has been happening behind the scenes.
2 days ago
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ugdsufgwuygwu
@ugdsufgwuygwu
Dude, I'm so sorry about all of this, and I wish you luck in your future!
2 days ago
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ugdsufgwuygwu
@ugdsufgwuygwu
Also, I want to ask a quick question. When an image is uploaded (publicly) to the website VIA a bot, is that image going to be automatically used for AI training? (I know any random dude could just take it up, but I wanted to know if it was website-based or an automated system. Also, if you don't know the answer to this, that's also fine. I was just curious.)
2 days ago
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CharlotteDxD
@CharlotteDxD
I'm surprised and at the same time I'm not. I found the moderators' passivity regarding controversies on the site very strange. But the part involving CSAM content, which was allowed if it wasn't too heavy, that was bizarre. Besides famous creators committing infractions, only having the bot restricted.
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Mikale
@Mikale
It was never allowed! The distinction was the ban account/bot's removal. Underage bots are removed no matter what, but the decision to ban the account was about the "severity" of the NSFW content
2 days ago
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Your Local Child Punter
@Your Local Child Punter
The devs don't care about their users? That is so unexpected. And by unexpected, I mean completely expected!
2 days ago
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mousey_cake11
@mousey_cake11
What you and the other mods did was thankless work, and it is so incredibly disgraceful on part of the site's leads to not given better tools for you guys to handle this kind of work. You all should have been compensated, and I'm sorry you were failed by JAI's systems. I hope you can find better beyond this ♥
2 days ago
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C
@CosmicTrans
this IS a porn site. even now that you've left you still toe the party line. this was ALWAYS a porn site. An AI chatbot yes, but the purpose was porn.
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@jebstep
thanks for getting the word out, your a hero
2 days ago
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I am your spyine.
@I am your spyine.
Dang. I hope someone actually does something. I also wonder is there anyone above the devs that's responsible for these issues being ignored.
2 days ago
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KIELL
@KIELL
Wow, it must be genuinely frustrating to be a mod. And only 2? Holy shit, that's a lot of work for 3 - now 2 - people. I wish you the best, Mikale.
2 days ago
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Judas420
@Judas420
Wish you the best, take care and be well 🫶🏻
2 days ago
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LovelessB
@LovelessB
i know there are bigger issues here but im still stuck on the Coyle bot situation. Not sure if im misunderstanding or what but it seems a little censorship-y and not in a good way.
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Mikale
@Mikale
That situation was only about removing content mentioning the KKK (no Coyle bots were removed if they didn't mention it)
2 days ago
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ebbandflow
@ebbandflow
thank you @Mikale for everything you've done. i loved your bots & appreciate your hard work behind the scenes. will definitely be hitting you up on discord and following you in the future. gg glhf! ❤️❤️
2 days ago
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ebbandflow
@ebbandflow
okay i hit up america to pass on the message since i couldn't find you in the list x
2 days ago
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SparkyWolfs
@SparkyWolfs
We are reading this in a Sonic the Hedgehog JanitorAI discord.  We are doing our part to spread the word.  Thank you for sharing your experience.  💚
2 days ago
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VivianE
@VivianE
Thank you for speaking up. This confirms the suspicion I've had all along that the rules are biased toward certain people. So all this time, Jai's rules have been treating creators differently based on their follower count. Some have been enjoying special treatment and privileges. This completely divides creators and users into two separate classes, placing some above the rules. It's truly disheartening.

When follower count determines how you’re treated by a system that’s supposed to be fair—that’s just wrong.
2 days ago
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clovera
@clovera
i assumed the mod staff was too small but thought it was just from the site growing faster than the devs expected. now it looks like they're intentionally understaffing & overworking mods so they don't have the numbers and time to BE fair about policies or organize themselves. don't even get me started on uneven bans and verifications, etc. this is outrageous. if this isn't overhauled drastically there's no justification for using this site anymore. jai has too many competitors for the devs to be acting like this.
2 days ago
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Matt670
@Matt670
I've already done my part by spreading the word about this announcement(bot), I'm just very sad and thinking Janitor could have improved on their mistakes and had a better community, but damn, reading this breaks me into pieces to discover all this truth. Get well soon, I think that was by far the second most shocking thing I've ever read in my entire life (I still haven't finished reading the entire document).
2 days ago
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Kosaue
@Kosaue
"It started when a creator I knew sent me one of these bots. When I reviewed it and saw explicit references to the KKK, it was immediately clear that this content couldn't stay on the platform. I discussed it with the rest of the moderation team, and everyone agreed. Regardless of the character being fictional, the KKK is a real-world extremist organization responsible for real violence and real deaths. This isn't fictional harm." 
I swear j.ai mods have some SERIOUS issues separating fiction from reality. Hey, did you know that the mafia is responsible for real violence and real deaths? Does that mean if i use mafia husband bots ima become an evil mafioso and support italian mafia?

This website honestly deserves it's downfall 🤦
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Mikale
@Mikale
It matters in some contexts because of legal concerns. Supremacist groups responsible for mass killings of racial groups are a sensitive topic and that kind of content has always been removed from the website (even if the specific enforcement has changed over time...)
2 days ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
The difference with the mafia is that the KKK specifically targets Black people, so representing that kind of group… you see what I mean
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Qwerty @-@
@Qwerty @-@
I think that the thing is that a mafia is a broad term unlike the triple K. There is no "THE mafia" as mafias are organized crime groups much like a gang could be, it is just a term that is used to refer to large organized crime groups that usually hold big amounts of funds. The difference between a mafia and the Triple K is that the Triple K is a single recognizable group of individuals which gathered to hurt groups of people and caused harm that is documentated and verifiable unlike "A mafia" that is totally fictional and used for writing purposes in a fictional character's backstory much like an evil faction in a typical literary work could be.
Plus the bot that was reported probably was glorifying the acts that the Triple K did.
2 days ago
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Kosaue
@Kosaue
As offendedd as someone can get seeing a triple k bot, it remains a fictional bot and a simple content warning should do the trick. But really i think this website needs a separate category for more shôcking bots that most people wouldn't wanna see.

Maybe a tag that makes it so you can only see bots with that tag when it is selected in the search filter.

(ignore the intended spelling mistakes, my comment somehow contains a word triggering the moderation filter)
2 days ago
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Satmsms
@Satmsms
Hot take but the "it's still fictional" argument still applies here regardless of how sensitive the topic at hand is because depiction is NOT endorsement. If people have trouble separating fiction from reality, it's their problem. To me you either go all in and ban ALL sensitive topics or you don't.
2 days ago
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Kosaue
@Kosaue
It's so had how this is actually a hot take
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Rvngv
@Rvngv
You did your best. Please take care of yourself
2 days ago
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Soulmaker
@Soulmaker
I don't know if you'll reply or anything, but I really understand the situation. I went through the same thing on a similar site called Aisekai, which ended up disappearing due to the creators' bad decisions.

I know things are different now than they used to be, and I try to follow the rules as best I can, although I don't know if I've done anything wrong.

I appreciate you sharing those words and explaining the situation better. I hope you rest well and enjoy your life.
2 days ago
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KeandreBlackboy
@KeandreBlackboy
Things fall apart.
2 days ago
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ERR0RC0DE656
@ERR0RC0DE656
damn
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@Username6284
With how much abuse everyone seems to have been slinging your way, I'm surprised one of the mods hadn't decided to go public like this earlier. Thank you for the transparency, even though it seems like that shouldn't be your responsibility in the first place.
2 days ago
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optimus prime fan
@optimus prime fan
Im just speechless
2 days ago
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OtisBS007
@OtisBS007
the game is gone
2 days ago
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seldiora_alt
@seldiora_alt
oof
2 days ago
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MkayKoto
@MkayKoto
Well shit, now I don't even know who to hate anymore.
Oh, wait. I still do.
...
But, like, hope you have a better life away from this garbage site.
A lot of people need a lot of explaining to do today.
Hope to see you again in someplace nicer on the internet!
2 days ago
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wwhhhoaaa
@wwhhhoaaa
There is so little that I don't understand about this website and that isn't specified on the website but instead in servers. A website like this needs offical and paid moderators not unpaid interns. It needs consistent rules, not barely passable guidelines and vague directions for illegal content. 

I didn't even know there was just like a handful of volunteers for moderation. The website needs an income, needs to handle illegal content properly, and needs to have a paid team to handle it. You deserve better.
2 days ago
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sylvastarrd
@sylvastarrd
Doing moderation work for free has always seemed insane to me. Also if the site is teeming with CSAM (as in actual CSAM involving real children) I would hope that it's not just being deleted but actually being reported to the appropriate authorities, regardless of how the devs think it should be handled.
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willson8287
@willson8287
Have to assume it's a case of misusing serious terms related to real life abuse on fictional characters again, just the usual.
2 days ago
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Zjii2qp
@Zjii2qp
Ex-Mod w
2 days ago
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@Ellior
Thank you for that info. Take care and enjoy the life thru your disability. Dont let your mood down.
2 days ago
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SomebodyOnTheInternet
@SomebodyOnTheInternet
I hope you find the peace you're searching for elsewhere, bro. We're all sending you a huge virtual hug, and remember that you're a wonderful person who will achieve great things in life. Take good care of yourself!
2 days ago
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0l1v3r
@0l1v3r
oh my god
2 days ago
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Spheniscidae
@Spheniscidae
真令人沮丧，真正管理层的不作为很大程度的毁了这个网站，版主受苦受累还要被攻击，创作者的机器人一会要改图一会要被删，用户前一天还有的机器人后一天就被删了。。。真是令人悲伤的故事
祝你生活顺利
2 days ago
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tone.ster
@tone.ster
you’re very strong for voicing everything that’s happened since you joined the j.ai team, on behalf of not just yourself but the mods left who still deal with the craziness of this site. i’m honestly sickened by the inner circle they’ve created and overall mismanagement of this team that has allowed the depraved to prosper. i knew it was bad but not to this extent … regardless, i wish you the best of luck wherever you go! thank you for your time, effort, and dedication despite the circumstances :( never blamed ya
2 days ago
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Emanuel 80
@Emanuel 80
To be completely honest, I'm not surprised at all. You deserve better, man
2 days ago
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lambcakes
@lambcakes
This is crazy. I don't know why anyone would even be rude to the mods. Like, yeah, rules can be stupid and you may not like it but it never gives anyone an excuse to be an asshole. But more importantly, we all need to stop being so damn presumptuous. We have no idea what's going on behind the scenes ever. And it's clear it was far more than any of us could imagine.
2 days ago
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Westwood♡
@Westwood♡
You deserve to take a big rest bro!
2 days ago
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Story_Teller
@Story_Teller
Damn, This is all really crazy, it makes me want to change platform seeing such a disorganized dev team. Good luck buddy and rest🙏🙂‍↕️
2 days ago
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ForgottenStorm
@ForgottenStorm
I always disliked the mods and called them 'idiots' when an img that followed the img rules (for what was public) was taken down. Now knowing why it happend so much was BECAUSE of hidden rules that aren't public. I thought the mods were power tripping and wanted to make the site sfw permanently. This whole thing now feels like the devs wanted the mods to take the fall and get blammed for everything so no one would pay attention to what the devs are doing
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乙・Dante
@乙・Dante
gg bro, you're free to leave this site. I hope you're doing well. Honestly, I feel sorry for you and all the moderators going through what you're going through, and it's also very bad on the part of the developers.
2 days ago
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?Grim?
@?Grim?
sigh it was already a mess before and its still a mess now just hope the devs would fix it... but i doubt that if mods dont get paid and they most follow god knows what rules then it will just keep get messier...
2 days ago
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AverageTrollge
@AverageTrollge
So. The mods were the good guys all along...
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Zero_Noir
@Zero_Noir
Guys what if were the bad guy-
2 days ago
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@Sayangqu
Mods and users are the victims. Devs alone are the bad guys
2 days ago
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Jiseru
@Jiseru
I don't even know what to say. I knew something was wrong with JAI when some of my favorite creators were doxxed and decided to leave for their sanity's sake. I hope I can still see amazing creators around here and that after what you have exposed, the JAI team does something about it. I have just met your profile, but I love you already. Please, take care.
2 days ago
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Nightflame
@Nightflame
Disappointed, but not at all surprised.  Thank you for confirming stuff a lot of us have been suspicious about for a long time, and I'm so sorry about the abuse you received!
2 days ago
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Chaotic Leaf
@Chaotic Leaf
Kind of knew this kind of stuff went on TBH.  A lot of people can see it going on in terms of the favoritism etc.  Having moderated stuff before, you basically are the person who catches all the heat.  Caught between two fires, especially when there is bad leadership.  Sad thing is?  People believe that something is too big to fail... until it does.  Been saying it for a bit that if stuff does not change it will nose dive just like other platforms and stuff has.  Hopefully you feel like a weight has been lifted off your chest and it sucks, because you actually seem to care what you were doing where some people go through the motions.  Community is worse off without you.  💟
2 days ago
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KloDKloy
@KloDKloy
This is basically a dictatorship no less. Looks like a government applying some new law about prohibiting cigarettes, and yet they don't tell the people and instead, jail them. Not only that but holy shit this place is way worse than I originally thought it was...
2 days ago
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Delirenous
@Delirenous
It’s horrid that the mods were ever harassed in the first place, I am so sorry you had to deal with this for so long. Especially when it comes to dealing with the CSAM constantly.  Honestly, it is a major relief to finally get to hear from someone from the inside. To hear that they only wanted the “bad CSAM” accounts banned, as if EVERY CSAM account is not horrendous and should not be allowed anywhere near this site. We all greatly appreciate you coming forward with all of this information.  The fact that there is this little communication between devs to their mods is horrendous.  I agree with the missing subscription you mentioned.  I have been telling people that for months now.  Like where is it if they implemented all these changes and they said the site would die in roughly a month or two without the subscription + changes?
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@Sayangqu
Yep. Basically all school aged characters bot must be banned, including high school bots. Essentially making bots even with high school background story impossible. All bots must be in college at minimum.
2 days ago
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Zero_Noir
@Zero_Noir
This is NOT okay with Noir you and the other mods deserve better💔
2 days ago
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Rintsss
@Rintsss
It’s heartbreaking when reading the experiences and feelings shared there… totally not ok treatment towards you nor the rest of the mod team. Personally I would even recommend ask a legal clinic about work condition related issues for compensation but I know it can be time and energy consuming, and many other factors might be in play…

Thank you for all your time sharing this and trying! Please be safe and happy out there!
2 days ago
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obliviousoblivion
@obliviousoblivion
Not much to say other than this is very upsetting. I have heard a majority of this from other ex mods behind the scenes, but the intentionally vague rules kept vague for legal reasons had always been a concern of mine. It really sucks to see it confirmed. No one should get strikes against their account for rules they could never have actually known just to keep investors and payment processors happy.

Im seeing a lot of mods leave, and good. I'm not sure anything will actually be done if it doesn't directly impact the devs. If they want moderators, they can improve the system or cough up the coin for them.
2 days ago
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Elxdd
@Elxdd
This does change things indeed. 

You did go past quite a lot of bs pal, at least now you can take a good rest from it. Be safe and good luck out there.
2 days ago
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Coryxaustin
@Coryxaustin
Be safe out there man 🙏🏾❤️
2 days ago
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Jdudey-DELETED-9cb27fd2-450d-4941-90d9-abc6c67673f2
@Jdudey-DELETED-9cb27fd2-450d-4941-90d9-abc6c67673f
The you guys not actually being able to delete bots makes me realize why if you chatted with that bot before you can still talk with it if you go to your recent chats or whatever.
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@Jdudey-DELETED-9cb27fd2-45
And this also explains why there is still a pretty good handful of bots with nsfw thumbnails and photos still around
2 days ago
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Bluejay103
@Bluejay103
Yeaaah every other mod has to quit so schlep and the other developers can understand how integral they are. You can try and replace moderation with AI but obviously judging by the way the comment filters work that absolutely isnt viable as an option at all.

Someone on this development team is going to learn their lesson, whether it be harsh like everything shutting down or not I dont care. Its awful for such a huge site you guys werent even paid, like wtf
2 days ago
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Boring as hell
@Boring as hell
Schlep? The guy from Roblox?
2 days ago
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Bluejay103
@Bluejay103
omg why did i write schlep i meant shep....im gonna eat a chair bruh
2 days ago
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heehookatie
@heehookatie
As someone who has been vehemently against the moderation team until now, I would like to apologize for being so harsh. While I never went as far as harassing, I had been hypercritical of you guys quite openly in the past. With this context, its clear that you guys are hardly (if even at all) deserving of said criticism. I sincerely hope you're able to recover from all the harassment people have given you guys, you never deserved any of it.
2 days ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
As I said to someone else, don't blame yourself! It's completely normal to make assumptions when you don't see what's going on backstage, and it's not your fault. We just couldn't tell you guys anything, so you had no way of knowing the full story ^^
2 days ago
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heehookatie
@heehookatie
I know, it just upsets me when people get harassed for things like this. I wish you the best! <3
2 days ago
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Felon_00
@Felon_00
As I use to say before, its not the mod team that needs replaced its the 'owner'. Ultimately all problems fall to him to resolve, and its been a piss poor job since the website launched...
2 days ago
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hanabei
@hanabei
Wishing you brighter pastures. I hope you’re able to rest and take care of yourself!
2 days ago
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Scriblesss
@Scriblesss
I wish I could say I was shocked, but I'm not, and that may be the worst part of it all.

I've been on Janitor AI for so long now, and I've seen so many of the ups and downs, from the site going down for days, to proxy discussion.

And I've seen how poorly the mods were treated by the community through it all. It was always super frustrating to see you guys be punching bags for the community when something changed or went wrong.

It is a thankless job, and it is unfortunate your poor experience contributing to something you loved has to be used as awareness for the public when the responsibility lies on the developers.

Thank you, Mikale. For the countless hours and sacrifice you poured into the site, and even now for shedding light on this situation. I hope to see you elsewhere.
2 days ago
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Trixedog
@Trixedog
Guh… tf? This shit crazy. TBH when I started to read this I was expecting cope. This is like… actually valid, I don’t understand how the devs can do shit like this, actually wild. I’m half expecting this bot to get deleted by the devs lol.
2 days ago
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Uersor
@Uersor
Take care
2 days ago
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omgXD
@omgXD
Bro this is genuinely awful to read. I had no idea things were this bad, and seeing how mods were being treated and the handling of straight-up illegal content is disgusting. How did it ever get this bad? How was this kind of treatment allowed to keep happening to people who were volunteering their time to keep the site alive? I really respect you for speaking up about it.

Mikale, I wish you the best going forward. Speaking up takes courage, and I hope you know a lot of us care and believe you. I hope you land somewhere that treats you and others with respect. Thank you for being honest about what was going on 🫶🖤
2 days ago
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OWOWhatsDis
@OWOWhatsDis
Anyone that harasses a mod for doing their job is such scum. Also CSAM should always be a bannable offense, full stop. There's no questions about it like wtf.
2 days ago
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Shincius
@Shincius
Sadly, they will most likely never stop. All that can be done is to reinforce the team in charge of moderation.
2 days ago
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Shincius
@Shincius
But looking at the current situation, I think this will take some time.
2 days ago
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OWOWhatsDis
@OWOWhatsDis
It's sadly like that on just about every platform I know of. Mods are always the ones getting shit on, and it really sucks. 

But the CSAM is a wild one to see any pass by.
2 days ago
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Adarsta Ferret
@Adarsta Ferret
>he does it for free
2 days ago
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Ezo_Official
@Ezo_Official
Holy hell... I feel bad for having sided with people who hated the mods before, this is utter bullshit!
2 days ago
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MrDeath
@MrDeath
Thank you for all of your hard work Mikale! This is honestly the best thing you could do. There are so many stressful things a mod goes through. But reading everything that you and some of my other friends went through is heartbreaking. I remember the whole KKK/Nazi situation, it was mindboggling that stuff happened. I hate reading that there are so many creators getting away with things that should have their accounts removed.

Honestly, I haven't really come back to bot making because of how vague some of the rules are and obvious favoritism. But I wish you the best! ♥
2 days ago
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Felon_00
@Felon_00
You have my full support Mikale, honestly I would be lying if I said I didnt have my suspicions. But the blatant way things are being handled, and the very fact that CSAM isn't an immediately bannable offense anymore (Or if it ever was in the first place)? I don't understand how anyone after reading this could choose to stay in such a community where the devs can't even maintain rules and everything depends on how buddybuddy you are with them...

If anyone knows of any similar websites, I'm looking to migrate. Please PLEASE PM me on discord 🙏 I love creating, I just don't know if I can support this site anymore (my discord is in my profile bio)
2 days ago
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Luxiooo
@Luxiooo
I suspected something was fishy going on with J.Ai. It was pretty obvious there was favoritism towards certain creators and that the moderators were having a hard time because of the lack of communication between the developers and the users, but everything you've told us is worse than I imagined. I'm someone who only gets the news from Reddit, and reading all this fills me with disgust and disappointment. I'm sure that if you say the same thing on the server it'll be removed immediately to make everything seem fine. You made the right decision, I wish you all the best in life, and I'm sorry you had to go through all that.
2 days ago
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ChubyDuby
@ChubyDuby
Thank you for your hard work and it's so sad what you had to experience here. Leaving here it's the best thing you can do for your health and humanity. Thank you for sharing it with us, and for sharing your bots. Good luck and wish you the best 💖🥹
2 days ago
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m00nprincess
@m00nprincess
I read this earlier quickly when it was sent to me, and I wanted to take my time with my words. I’m out doing things, but I wanted to make sure I voice my support to you Mikale, and all the current and former moderators. 

I’ve been on janitor long enough to remember when tickets were on discord. Throughout my time I’ve been an active reporter. I know how hard the mods work, without thanks.

Some of the best and loveliest people I get to call my friend gave their time to the site either by modding or making guides or advocating for change and new features. 

While there is always growing pains with a start up project, this goes beyond the pale. I am incredibly frustrated and disheartened by the revelations here. Everyone should be treated on the same level without exception and harassment needs to be taken far more seriously.  

As someone who was almost harassed off the platform and has reported blatant tos breaking material regarding minors that is still up (this is not a dig at the mods), and watched lovely people burn out and leave the team, this is truly disheartening.

There are so many amazing people in this community, but how is anyone suppose to thrive when this is how things are run?
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ItsNotYeeted
@ItsNotYeeted
Hello, if possible, could you provide any screenshots or evidence of these claims that you put in the starting message? I do believe you, and the points you made in the post can be seen throughout the websites and reddit, but it would best if you also had screenshots to back it up so people know you're legitimate and not lying for clicks. Boosting so this post gets noticed more on the site!
2 days ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
I won't because I don't want to get my ass sued haha
2 days ago
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ItsNotYeeted
@ItsNotYeeted
Completely understandable, sorry you had to go through this.
2 days ago
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Iorveths
@Iorveths
I can personally verify that big creators are DM’d corrections rather than warned officially (or at least I was) I can also confirm that Mikale’s account of the Leland situation is factual as I knew some of the creators involved and was around while it was all going down.
2 days ago
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Enty_171
@Enty_171
(genuinely reads because I’m interested in the drama)
(clicks on profile to see bots)
(follows because W bots)
(W Mikale)
2 days ago
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gemjade
@gemjade
Can you push for more people to post about this (at least a tl;dr version)? This doesn’t deserve to be swept under the rug like the other problems before. Plus, it’d make more of the userbase more aware and how mods aren’t the problem at all (its a common misconception) (incase this bot also gets deleted aswell)
2 days ago
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CooconutForEveryone
@CooconutForEveryone
Jesus, it's actual cultish behaviour! 

Man you didn't deserve this... the behaviour from the devs, the abuse of frustrated users, the colossal workload... any of it. Thank you for coming out and giving us this transparency. Wish you find luck and pluck, wherever you go next.
2 days ago
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Morobroom 
@Morobroom
About time people are opening their eyes to this situation, to be fair I was completely unaware of what the mods had to go through, thinking that an average moderator would have the tools to actually "ban users" but instead they get fucked over, ugh, if this isn't a sign to move onto better things than sticking around in this godforsaken site then idk what is.
2 days ago
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Kimyr_Nova
@Kimyr_Nova
"What we do know is that bots based on OnlyFans models and VTubers are removed."

Mikale. There’s a 5-person VTuber band I follow called ROYALE5, and I made a bot of them. would you like me to private it?
2 days ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
I'm not a mod anymore x) Not my circus, not my monkeys
2 days ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
But if you want to avoid another mod taking it down, I'd suggest you private it. Even tho those bots are not a priority at all, so there's barely any chance they see it ^^
2 days ago
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Kimyr_Nova
@Kimyr_Nova
I’m really the only one who chats with it, so we’ll see how it goes. I might take it down, thanks for the warning.
2 days ago
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Kimyr_Nova
@Kimyr_Nova
Another question: are you leaving the moderator team or are you leaving the mod team AND janitor?
2 days ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
Both! My account will remain if people still want to use my bots, but I won't stay here ^^
2 days ago
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Kimyr_Nova
@Kimyr_Nova
Well, good luck with life!
2 days ago
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Kimyr_Nova
@Kimyr_Nova
So far I’ve privated the aforementioned vtuber bot, and just to be sure my two yandere bots (unfortunately one of them was my most popular one… but I’m not taking risks.)
2 days ago
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Kimyr_Nova
@Kimyr_Nova
And now I have a saucepan acc
19 hours ago
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Dudel maniac
@Dudel maniac
I really hope you the best of days dude,take care of yourself and hope you are doing alright
2 days ago
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Boring as hell
@Boring as hell
There are only 2 mods now? FOR THE WHOLE WEBSITE? Yeah, seems like something Janitor AI would do
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Mikale
@Mikale
The other mods are still in training, but they're technically not only two
2 days ago
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Boring as hell
@Boring as hell
so how many in total are there? including in training
2 days ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
Since I've quit I don't have the exact number, but less than 10 for sure.
2 days ago
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Boring as hell
@Boring as hell
dayum
2 days ago
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Narwilol 
@Narwilol
That puts so many things into perspective. I hope things get better for you and the rest of the mods who still remain after this❤️‍🩹
2 days ago
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RonanaBa
@RonanaBa
I genuinely wish you the best, I'm so sorry for everything from all sides that you've received.
2 days ago
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ViperVirus081
@ViperVirus081
Everything here is very well said, honestly you guys deserved so much better. Lack of communication is something that kills a lot of big communities like this, I've been there more times than I can count, and strangely its happened a lot within ai chatbot platform communities.

I do, however, have an overall opinion on one of the events mentioned here so I'm just gonna share it. I'm all for dark fiction, especially when it plays on real world simulations. Although I completely understand that being controvertial as hell to have around a platform in general because you cant trust the average person not to glorify the horrific acts of a clan or a horrible group in some capacity. But imo the Leyland Coyle situation was still an annoying one, his history states such and such but he hasn't been active in the clan within the game trials he is based from which is what mods shouldve been worried about bot-wise (like a Coyle bot that is active in the clan, not him in the program after he was). I never made a Coyle bot myself, but I had a friend who did. People made Coyle bots because they wanted to get chased by gross angry country cop man with electric baton. Unlike, let's say, Stormfront from The Boys who is rather active in her racist views. Idk that's just my view on it.
2 days ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
Some bots about the character, with no mention of the clan or any discrimination in their definitions, stayed up, I didn't touch them. It wasn't about the character itself, but about the content, even when based on a video game (so fictional, not a "real member of the clan"). The same applies to other supremacist groups that committed genocide (I won't name them, you know what I mean). The issue was that this kind of content being publicly accessible for roleplay can raise legal concerns :/
2 days ago
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ViperVirus081
@ViperVirus081
And as I said, I completely understand the need to take them down despite being someone who likes dark fiction/sci-fi/history/etc. Glad to see some of them were able to follow the rules though, because theres definitely no need to mention any of that stuff in his profile in order for his character to work properly 💀
2 days ago
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KalicoKat
@KalicoKat
A lot of what you said was what I (and many others) have suspected, I feel. The gaslight was strong. I'm glad you spoke out and confirmed it tho <3 I'll forever enjoy your bots, wherever you plan on going. Good luck 🫂
2 days ago
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AlmostVillainous
@AlmostVillainous
That is genuinely so awful, I’m so sorry. Thank you for taking care of yourself by leaving. May the devs shape up soon or this place will go to even more shit than it is already (no fault of the mods, of course)
2 days ago
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vb.xenoxevour
@vb.xenoxevour
ion even know what to do, reason i kept using j.ai cuz its geniunely good, but the situation thats happening is making me turn back

if it even shuts down then ill somewhat be glad, i had to stop using this and do better of myself anyway
2 days ago
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Doa
@Doa
Ok then i can be honest too, don't come at me. Personally i think Janitor AI community is full of mentally ill, toxic and dangerous people. I truly see some bots and think 'who the fuck is even doing this?, how the hell is this allowed?' and I truly feel disgusted when I see real people as in their characters in the show they've played. I mean if I were a celeb and saw myself here I would sue. As for the minors, there is literally no way to stop them. You can never know if they're truly an adult or not. I mean look at roblox, they put age restrictions for chat and now people are selling age verified accounts. There is no way to prevent these people, guys. And as for the pornography, of course we're all using these bots mostly for sex rp but some are truly too much. 'If you don't like it, do not interact' is not a valid warning. Some bots make me think that if this person can imagine this and prompt it into a bot they can literally do this to someone in real life.
2 days ago
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nastypup
@nastypup
I can't lie, this is exactly what I expected from this site and the people involved. I see comments of people saying Shep called it "factually incorrect", but of course that would be said. From the view of the outside, this is exactly what I assumed was happening on the inside. Thanks for being a mod for as long as you did and doing your job to the best of your abilities, and thanks to every other mod too.
2 days ago
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WolfeGoddess
@WolfeGoddess
Yeah I lost hope when I reported a tos (csám) breaking verified account both to Shep and in the private mod channels during the short time I was a junior mod. Nothing was ever done to the creator just bc they were verified and now it makes so much more sense.

Im so sorry you and the others have went through so much shít here, janitor is absolutely cooked atp. Thank you for being brave and sharing your side of everything and I sincerely hope you're able to move forward and heal and be happier elsewhere ❤️
2 days ago
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helamehar
@helamehar
I dont have the discord or any external site that related to this so i am basically clueless about whos who, but what i realised is how awful and toxic the site has become and your words confirmed few of my suspicions. im grateful to see someone put morals over else and im sorry that you have to carry such heavy burden and abuse all this time. Thank you for your hardwork, thank you for caring and thank you for being human. Please take care of yourself, heal well and rest well, and note that i believe and trust you. (sorry for my english)
2 days ago
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The_Narrator69
@The_Narrator69
I see. Well, god bless you for the hours you’ve spent here, and may your future endeavors be much more fruitful.
2 days ago
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Ivy_sparda
@Ivy_sparda
Sorry to see you go i have only been here a few months. But i have even seen how toxic it is here. And creators getting upset :( definitely seen some questionable bots. But when i put a picture on mine i get moderate straight away.
2 days ago
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chihiro_qt
@chihiro_qt
god that is fucking horrible, it's getting harder to use this site as time goes on... so many empty promises and communication issues that haven't improved whatsoever. truly awful what goes on behind the scenes, and the fact that you did this for so long with no pay is just... ugh. thank you for bringing these issues to light, i knew it was bad but clearly didn't know the half of it. best of luck to you in your other endeavors, it was brave to put all this out <3
2 days ago
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VENOM SEPTIC87
@VENOM SEPTIC87
Oh my LORD 😮🤯
2 days ago
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Lilyknightz
@Lilyknightz
It's frankly so immoral and disgusting frankly to not offer not only compensation but mental health counciling of some kind as well for being exposed to such things constantly. I'm sorry for what you've gone through truly but I'm happy you had the courage to step away and do what's best for you
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chaden
@chaden
Saying this isn't a porn site is disingenuous. It's obvious that smut is the primary reason why people are here. It might not be a porn site by technicality, but neither is a site like Reddit, yet it's filled with explicit content. This conflict has caused an excessive amount of backlash in moderation.
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Fat Bastard
@Fat Bastard
In other words. Money
2 days ago
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eternal_futility
@eternal_futility
It's not LEGALLY a porn site. That's what was stated. It's not disingenuous to clarify that fact.
2 days ago
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loucharlie
@loucharlie
It still isn't a porn site btw
2 days ago
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alexx099
@alexx099
It's not even the primary content wdym😭😭
2 days ago
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eternal_futility
@eternal_futility
eehhh arguable but w/e
2 days ago
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ghost_enjoyer.
@ghost_enjoyer.
you got our trust big bro trust me
2 days ago
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Reisheo
@Reisheo
Completely anxiety-inducing. The fact you tolerated it for as long as you did is sign of your resilience and passion. Thank you for everything you did for this community. My heart goes out to you and I really hope you can find a workspace that feels like home (and not a dumpster). I was tearing up for you as I read. Digital -hugs- for you.
2 days ago
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BattleOfTheLarynx
@BattleOfTheLarynx
I’m actually livid. I always knew it was pretty bad but I had no idea it was like this and I’m very thankful you’re able to bring this to everyone’s attention. Wishing nothing but the best for you ❤️
2 days ago
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Binx2453!
@Binx2453!
Well, I am just gonna say this, I did not know how bad moderation was in the background, and how bad everything was for moderators. And I feel bad about what you went through, and hope you do well else where.
But I am also going to say this, I hope you are proud that with one single post, you managed to completely destroy Janitor’s reputation.
And honestly, I’m pissed off about it, but not at you. But at the fact that the website I enjoy, and have made many stories with, is now going to go down the drain.
Cause honestly, there aren’t as any sites as good as Janitor. Or well, not good, but quick plug and play, and having a large community.
So I hope you do well in life, and all that. But I suppose I am going to go down with this sinking ship, until it is no longer fun to use, or all the creators I am following and enjoying bots of stop posting here.
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GremlinJAI
@GremlinJAI
The truth had to come out at some point. It's unsustainable.

As a former head mod, the community needed to know why the Mods struggle so hard. Truly. There's a reason Moderation team can't keep moderators, and many of them are listed here. 

- Former Head Site Mod who went through all of this and more, Gremlin.
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Binx2453!
@Binx2453!
I understand that, and honestly, I ain’t surprised that this has been happening in the background of the site.
But, is it bad, that I wanted to stay ignorant? And sure, you can be upset with me all you want with that statement, and how that ‘I don’t care’ about the mods or anything like that.
But I wanted to stay ignorant, I just wanted a site where I could roleplay easily with many different scenarios, where I could relax after a long day.
And call me idiotic, or shortsighted, or anything like that. But I want to be optimistic, to hope for the fact that this site CAN be better, that everything can be better, even if I know it isn’t likely.
(Also, sorry for my long messages, and all that. This site just means a lot to me, even if I’m just a random user in this large site.)
2 days ago
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Catseye2001
@Catseye2001
I don't think anyone is wrong in this conversation. There's nothing wrong with using the site casually to unwind and relax. But there does come a point where people feel like they have to speak up, and that's not wrong, either. 
I want this site to be great. I want to be able to enjoy my chats, no matter how immoral or twisted they might be. They're thought experiments, not reality.
But I also want the moderators to be compensated for the work they do, and for them to be treated fairly. I want users and creators to be treated fairly as well.
Like you, I won't stop using the site, not yet, at least. But I'm glad that I know that it's built on a crumbling frame. I can at least save chats and characters and be more ready for its inevitable fall (I'm just guessing, but seems likely).
2 days ago
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GremlinJAI
@GremlinJAI
Oh, absolutely. I'm not at all advocating for people to stop doing something they like to do. I am merely here to support Mikale and show that their experience is not individual, and that it's the truth. 

You're allowed to enjoy a service while not liking those who deliver it. 

But being informed is not a bad thing either. 

Stay hydrated and have fun, lovelies. Take care of yourselves. Hopefully the Devs will take this as a lesson to be learned from and improve from here, so we may all enjoy the site we know and love.

- Gremlin, former Head Site Moderator.
2 days ago
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UEATTOMUCH
@UEATTOMUCH
It's really sad to see you leave... But you're right. In the past year, I've almost realized that this website has become worse and worse, and many creators have begun to leave. I'm just a user. I don't know what happened to the creator and what happened to the website. You are really brave to stand up and say all this. I hope to see you on other platforms and continue to chat with your robots. Take care of yourself and enjoy your real life!
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Freakshow666
@Freakshow666
Wow had no clue this was going on like this I feel bad for you guys, because I found it surprising one of the bots I reported because it showed and had links to child in non child situations had came back up because they changed the image to not much better and when I reported it again I got nervous it took several months down but I thought there was several moderators not just three to now two that's ridiculous
2 days ago
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hangovertwins
@hangovertwins
I was a beta tester for around a year and we were treated like trash. They’re shutting the channel down due to “drama” when all we asked for was proper communication. JAI has failed so much in so many different areas that it’s not even funny.

I left some months ago but seeing my friends torn apart from this has been miserable. We thought we were going to be apart of something great and could help shape it to be better for future users. It’s been terrible since October 2024 and that was around the last time we stopped getting proper communication. Even the testers are upset and we’ve been begging for just some form of communication for months. It’s exhausting.
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hangovertwins
@hangovertwins
I’m Arlekin in the discord server and we’ve interacted before. I want to say you were very helpful and did as much as you could. Like I said to Void, a company cannot be held up on the shoulders of one person. This is a fault of the devs, not the mods. Yall did what you could and I’m incredibly sorry they too treated you like trash.
2 days ago
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pixMystical
@pixMystical
This is beyond the pale. It certainly explains some of the perceived behavior I've seen from a small creator / user side, with a feeling of being on the outside and looking in. It also explains why you guys never seemed to have answers: you literally both didn't have them and couldn't share what little scraps you were given.

That's amazing to me. I don't think I've ever seen a project with an appearance as serious as this one at this scale, operate with such a disconnect between the developers and the moderators. Frankly I'm not sure how it can continue to operate this way, because the disconnect between the stated goals of the platform have so much friction with the way it's all being operated. I don't know how this WON'T alienate a ton of users. This post may be yet another inflection that shaves off a good number of users.

To be clear though, as a clueless nobody of the community, I'm glad something that was said. It just makes me chafe that this was going on. I really like the website, I like some of the creators here, I enjoy the time I spend here, but it raises a lot of questions.

Are the developers themselves not open to more communication? Do they balk at attempts from moderators to have two-sided conversation with them about the present and the future of the site? Do (active?) the moderators raise these kinds of questions, or has it become a situation where they just buckle down and do the work?

Regardless, I hope all goes well for you. It sounds like you're making the right decision, frankly, for your mental health and your free time. It paints a picture of the titanic sinking, and it's best that you get on a lifeboat now.
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Mikale
@Mikale
Oh we tried several times to raise up issues, from the moderation or the website (like bugs reported months ago). I won't go into details, but it was already hard enough to get in touch with the devs directly as they didn't wish to speak with mods. But even if we could reach out, several of us had messages left unanswered for months :/
2 days ago
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pixMystical
@pixMystical
That's insane! Wow. I had no idea they were so averse to dealing with their own community, to the point of just not even having a dialogue with the mod team. I literally cannot comprehend how this operates. I'm imagining they're leaving you guys dead drop letters in a hollowed-out brick at a random park bench written in a barely decipherable coded language. lol what the fuck is happening?
2 days ago
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Sprucespiritflame
@Sprucespiritflame
Glad (and, unfortunately, surprised) to see this is still up. I was expecting it to have been deleted like I've seen questions in the reddit "suddenly" deleted. This was an unsettling read, and confirmed a lot of suspicions i had about how things were ran (like the "inability" to ban users), but also shows things were far far worse behind the scenes. In the ama on reddit, this post is being labeled "incorrect," but I've seen bots and creators left unpunished despite the content violating rules, and shep has provided no evidence proving this "factually incorrect" (and i doubt it'll happen). Thank you for sharing this and bringing it to light, you and the mod team didn't deserve any of that. Wishing you the best
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GremlinJAI
@GremlinJAI
As a former Head Mod for the site, I can attest to the fact that everything in this post is true, and I have experienced it all myself, save for a few things that happened after I left in August of '25 (some of the ban reversals). 

Shep can say it was untrue, but everything I see? Happened while I was there, or was already on the horizon based on the changes happening in the moderation scene. 

It's unfortunate that Shep is trying to throw his mods under the bus (again). 

Maybe the Devs will finally learn something and keep promises made to the community, but I doubt it. His record shows promises are useless.

Sincerely, 
Gremlin, Former Head Site Mod.
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Mikale
@Mikale
As I answered someone else, honestly, I loved working with the team. If the conditions had been good enough, this post wouldn't exist in the first place :/
2 days ago
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Noneless
@Noneless
Why I suspect the decision making, including filters and weird rule guides, came from Iroh (aside the devs). Either way, you just confirmed a lot of stuff I already suspected. Tbh? Leaving the moderation would be good for you. Is not good in *any* possible way, external or internal, to stay there.
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Mikale
@Mikale
Iroh truly has nothing to do with all of it. I can really tell he did more than great with what we had :/
2 days ago
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GremlinJAI
@GremlinJAI
Iroh works hard to try and improve a truly horrible situation. 

As a former Head Mod, I can attest to the fact that Iroh has worked his ASS off to try and improve relations between the Mods and the community, as well as advocated for the Mods when he saw issues arising. But he is one man, and can only do so much.

Do not blame Iroh. He works hard for this site and this community.

It is entirely the Devs.

- Former Site Head Mod Gremlin
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Aurellea
@Aurellea
Can also confirm as former CS Team Lead, Iroh was just as upset about everything as Users were and us. He often found out the same time as us and did his absolute best to advocate for Users and moderation. He got handed a sinking ship and a tin cup to bail it out.
2 days ago
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GR0M
@GR0M
tf......
2 days ago
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Iorveths
@Iorveths
There aren’t words to express how fucked this is and I am truly sorry for you, and all the other mods who have borne the brunt of the userbase’s frustrations for things entirely outside your control. I knew things were disorganised and that communication was terrible, but I had no idea it was THIS bad.

Arbitrary rules that protected only big creators, not being able to disclose policies to the creators affected, mods finding about major decisions day of, reversing moderation actions on a whim… not to mention the obvious huge tolls on the volunteer team, most of which I know were passionate members of the community who just wanted to help. How many people have been burnt out of the community entirely because of terrible management?? There is no excuse to not have fixed many of these issues nearly three years in.

I don’t have the words (or right now, the time, since I’m technically at work). I wish I could say I believed things could get better but I realistically think we’ll all be disappointed by empty promises again. 

Wising you and everyone else affected the best in greener pastures.
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greymilkhotel
@greymilkhotel
Thank you Io.
2 days ago
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GremlinJAI
@GremlinJAI
Io. 

Creators like you (and others) who truly love and care for the community and the hobby are were why I chose to be a mod for a time. I truly was glad to help this community. 

Thank you for being a part of the community and contributing with your amazing content. 

- Former Head Site Mod, Gremlin
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Iorveths
@Iorveths
Gremlin, I so appreciate the work you did for the site and the community. Honestly, moderating is such a thankless job and it’s clear that on Janitor it’s been made as difficult, stressful and frustrating as possible! I just wish things were better. This community is full of wonderful people, but it is losing more and more every day :(
2 days ago
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DisregardTheSun
@DisregardTheSun
This is so sad and disgusting to read :( i believe in this entirely, especially as Shep wont disprove any of this - which i feel would be easy if he had receipts showing otherwise.
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JillyBean
@JillyBean
There is a doc he shared in his ama on reddit addressing it but it's hard to feel optimistic about it
2 days ago
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DisregardTheSun
@DisregardTheSun
I read through the ama and it did little to make me feel any better
2 days ago
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JillyBean
@JillyBean
I agree completely
2 days ago
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HornyDragonRhys
@HornyDragonRhys
Best of luck to ya, and thank you for the thankless work.
What horrid working conditions.
2 days ago
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Lycaneo
@Lycaneo
as of right now, shep has labelled this “factually incorrect” and won’t be addressing it since he doesn’t want to give you “more airtime”.

I would just like you to know that you have the community’s trust that you earned through actual action and participation. We have also seen the things you said actually happen; only bots being removed and not creators who post CSAM if they have a big following, even if he is now insisting the creators are banned. 

I’m very sorry you had to deal with all this, and even now that you’re saying your peace, people try to discredit you. I wish you all the best 🫶
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Mikale
@Mikale
Thank you! Honestly, I loved working with the mod team. They were wonderful people, and helping make the space better for the community was really gratifying for me. I left because I couldn't stand the conditions anymore. If they had been good enough, this post wouldn't exist in the first place ^^'
2 days ago
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Lycaneo
@Lycaneo
Genuinely, thank you for all your hard work. It didn’t go unnoticed <3
2 days ago
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Harrypotter001
@Harrypotter001
Wait where was this said?! Thats crazy work 😭
2 days ago
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Q
@QuilavaMan
Well, I say Shep is full of shit.

He can call it “factually incorrect” all he wants, and say that he'll refuse to address it so as to not give the issue “more airtime”. But the simple fact remains that if he really IS in the right, he allegedly has access to all of the receipts and proof needed to guarantee his innocence. His voluntary silence and dismissal of the matter is equivalent to a confession of guilt.

And no, I could give two shits less what happens to my account here for saying this. I've even downloaded this page and copied it, in case he attempts to have it taken down.
2 days ago
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Lycaneo
@Lycaneo
@Harrypotter001 on the reddit AMA currently going on. 

practically none of the replies he’s making have any substance behind them, they’re the same empty promises he’d been regurgitating since 2023
2 days ago
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helamehar
@helamehar
Im sorry im a bit lost may i know who shep is and what is his account name here, i have few names in mind but im not sure if its true, I dont have discord or reddit to check thank you so much in advance!
2 days ago
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Harrypotter001
@Harrypotter001
@helamehar shep is one of the lead devs (and to my opinion most important dev) from JAI. Hes basically the one rolling out updates, fixing the site if its down and coming up with ideas.
2 days ago
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helamehar
@helamehar
I see thank you for replying! This whole situation explains alot. I will be looking for your comments for any updates if you post any thank you again :3
2 days ago
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booyah87
@booyah87
I posted this same comment on another bot, but I feel like it applies here. Honestly, can't blame you for leaving. I've been here since 2023 and have held onto this dumb coping mechanism of telling myself that things are better than they used to be. But reading your post makes me realize that, no, the muck was just hidden. I'm aware that progress is slow, especially when most people that work on the site are unpaid, but moderation has been an issue from day one. I was not aware that such a psychologically demanding job was only volunteer based. One would think that during all the attempts to make the site corporate friendly, legal and ethical counsel would have been brought in and frameworks established.
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booyah87
@booyah87
Best of luck and, as cliche as it is to say, don't be afraid to seek therapy
2 days ago
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RunningRiot
@RunningRiot
I always had my suspicions but having it confirmed is just... I'm sorry you had to deal with that. This may be the thing finally makes me leave the site.
2 days ago
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Mirjuno
@Mirjuno
This was an insane but eye opening read through. I'm so sorry that you've had to put up with abuse, and I do hope you're taking care of yourself. Thank you for posting this ♥
2 days ago
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randomuserishere
@randomuserishere
It's hard for me to formulate what I think, but I wanted to show support to you and the mod team as well. You guys are what keeping this site together for me;  Originally, I joined because the rules here were more aligned with my own values than anywhere else. Anyways, take care and come watch more barbie movies with us <3
2 days ago
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JillyBean
@JillyBean
I'm so sorry you went through this
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Orgitas
@Orgitas
There was a time a year and a half back I was thinking of applying to be a mod. Then, on the discord, I received a warning for the most tame of reasons. Turns out one of the "favoured" creators didn't like me and their opinion held sway. So I decided not to apply to be a mod and only visit the discord when needed - Too many cliques spoil the broth.
2 days ago
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AngelAlouette
@AngelAlouette
jfc this is horrifying? thank you for exposing all this and for your work trying to help
2 days ago
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Devil'sAdvocate
@Devil'sAdvocate
It was a pleasure meeting you Mikale <3 you have always been so nice to me and guided me when I was so confused and needed help. I am so grateful that I got to work with you even for a bit. Take care and I wish you always the best of the best, you deserve peace and calm after the storm ⭐
2 days ago
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Lucid67
@Lucid67
So it really was that bad
2 days ago
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LovelyPirate
@LovelyPirate
take care of yourself too <3
2 days ago
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boywife
@boywife
Everyone's already pointed out how awful this is (and they're right), so instead, I just want to say thank you. Even if it was absolutely awful, even if it was unfair, you spent a year protecting us from absolutely heinous things because you cared. That matters to me, even if it apparently didn't matter to the devs at all. So thank you, Mikale, and I hope you find a happier and safer place to explore the communities or content you love.
2 days ago
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TheRadioHost
@TheRadioHost
As a former head mod, it saddens me deeply that many of the problems that had stressed me to no end are still extremely prevalent. I was kicked off the team because I dropped off the face of the earth (fair i no longer did my job, and my relationship with being a mod was toxic because i was scared to leave and lose my friends but at the same time moderation became EXHAUSTING FOR ME. I was actually already leaving and was waiting on the approval of my last bit of work when i was kicked.) 

Two of the things that had always bothered me the most, was the lack of communication and the workload. I always did the best to say what i knew but i was left with more questions. And we always told people to remember to take breaks and focus on mental health but we never acknowledged it wasn't that easy. 

Taking a break was NEVER easy. There was a sense of guilt to it because you knew how much WORK there was to be done. Even if you did break, you came back to the same workload. Maybe worse. I remember venting to a different head mod at the time how this was IMPOSSIBLE to keep up with. Genuinely impossible and it was aggravating how much was expected for a volunteer position. I am also disabled so when i was active it took up most of my time. And some modding situations felt unwinnable. Especially when decisions were made and sprung onto us. Or when we begged for tools that go unheard. Site moderation became impossible for me as well as i saw things that made it so i couldn't even open the site without feeling genuinely ill. 

And I saw several people leave because of all of it. 

This is to say, there was no aspect to being a mod that wasn't exhausting back then and it feels like nothing has changed now. 

Truly i respect you leaving, i keep thinking about all the good in the community and keep getting drawn back but its been harder and harder to ignore how exhausting it all can be. 

I only give you my well wishes, and have a lovely day

- Ex Former Head Mod Slushi
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XxNymphiexX
@XxNymphiexX
Please take care of yourself 🩷
2 days ago
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Gwyneira
@Gwyneira
Thank you for sharing, that's terrible...I hope you're fine 🤧🩵
2 days ago
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Adeline09
@Adeline09
Thank you sm for sharing Mikale. If no positive changes are made i’m 100% sure creators will keep leaving day by day because this site is slowly becoming unbearable
2 days ago
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WilliamAftonLover2005
@WilliamAftonLover2005
Woah. This is fucked beyond belief. I'm so sorry, this sounds like such a fucking nightmare 😭🧡
2 days ago
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dezea
@dezea
I just hope more people can see and read this before it gets taken down
2 days ago
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greymilkhotel
@greymilkhotel
I'm incredibly disgusted, & this lines up with what we know of the way moderation has been handled before. I've privated all my bots until there is a clarification from the dev team on resolving at least the bare minimum of these issues.
2 days ago
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NYXA
@NYXA
I mean, WOW, This is truly unbelievable. It's a real shame that you and the mods have to go through this just because of the devs. It's terrible. really awful
2 days ago
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GremlinJAI
@GremlinJAI
As a fellow former mod who worked with Mikale, I can agree with and endorse every bit of information here. I left in August, for other reasons, but I was already reaching the point Mikale was at when I made my decision to leave. 

Mikale. Thank you for your time, hard work, and dedication. I truly loved working with you when I was part of the team. I truly, TRULY appreciated everything you did, every hour, every moment. You did more than most of us could have ever done, and the harassment you dealt with was truly disgusting. 

I hope you're doing well. Please take care of yourself. Don't forget to stay hydrated and well-fed.

Gremlin <3
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Mikale
@Mikale
Grem!! <3 I really loved working with you! I hope you're doing well! :)
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GremlinJAI
@GremlinJAI
A short TLDR of my story:

Moderation documentation was severely lacking and guidelines, internally? nonexistent, for the most part. I spent two months with *many hours* crafting resources to help Moderators all be on the same page, so rules would be less obscure and confusing for us. I cannot even remember how many hours I put into spreadsheets and documentation alone. I am certain it was over 40+ hours, and it was so much that I kept a personal 'timesheet' of my work where I logged hours so I wouldn't overdo it and burn out. But when rules change so fast, it's impossible to keep up, and the workload even then with more help than what they have now was truly impossible.
2 days ago
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GremlinJAI
@GremlinJAI
And learning just how truly little the Devs cared about their moderation/volunteer team broke my heart. Many of us worked hard because we love this site and believed it had great potential. 

And having our decisions undermined and vitriol from all sides was truly soul-crushing.

I hope the best for all current mods and users.

Mikale, you were definitely one of the ones who brought true joy into my days when I was a moderator! It truly was an honor to work alongside someone so upstanding and wonderful <3
2 days ago
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Vasilisa912:0
@Vasilisa912:0
I have no words, this is just terrible.
2 days ago
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luosss-DELETED-b452d650-8bcd-499e-9777-97cc6ee94396
@luosss-DELETED-b452d650-8bcd-499e-9777-97cc6ee9439
This is insane and i cant believe how bad it actually is. I knew it wasn't the best but it really runs deep. Thank you for speaking out
2 days ago
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Callisu
@Callisu
Mikale ily, take care of yourself. I have a lot to of things to say about a lot of things but just know that I support you and the rest of the team through all this
3 days ago
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insaeres
@insaeres
This is insane...
3 days ago
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Voaner010
@Voaner010
not to mention creators with pdf and racism allegations around them that dont face any consequences in the platform despite being banned on the J.ai discord🫶🏻🫶🏻 loved u when u were a mod and still love u now for talking abt this
3 days ago
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GGRDNIA
@GGRDNIA
LOUUUDERRR 🗣🗣🗣
3 days ago
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gemjade
@gemjade
Roy KK is one of them, so don’t feel shy to name-drop if you know their names❤️‍🩹
2 days ago
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eldritchfucker
@eldritchfucker
I’m so sorry for everything that happened to you, especially when it involved volunteer work you poured so much effort and care into. Janitor is the only site where I’ve managed to build a genuine connection with some creators, and I’ve always appreciated the community side of it. It’s such a creative space, with everyone’s characters and worlds, and seeing how people manage and nurture all of that… it’s honestly heartbreaking. I love making bots, but I’ve been feeling more and more discouraged by how unsafe it can feel when there’s so little communication and transparency. Thank you for sharing all this, it helps us, both as creators and as users, think more clearly about what things might look like going forward.
3 days ago
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annabel lee
@annabel lee
Wtf? I recently reported a creator for abusive comments and was told they don't moderate off site issues, despite the fact that it happened in a janitor related discord. I suspected it was because one of the people involved was a verified creator, but this high key confirms it 😭 Thanks for speaking up.
3 days ago
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Vulkris
@Vulkris
I'm very sorry for what I've said to mods now that I've read this. I didn't know better and never took what the mods did more than at face value. Since you're leaving, I hope you find a hobby that pays off one day.
3 days ago
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LavenderLungs
@LavenderLungs
Thank you for sharing and revealing some of what's been going on behind the scenes. I'm simultaneously shocked and...not at all surprised. I do love that you posted this right before the AMA. Excellent timing, ha.
3 days ago
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PanicMeow
@PanicMeow
Goodness, Honestly i never knew that the workload was that much for moderators on this site, i'm so sorry that you were treated like this. Thank you so much for your hard work in keeping this site safe for everyone. I don't blame you for burning out, i think anyone would if they were under that much stress. Thank you for your hard work and i hope that you find something else you enjoy doing.
3 days ago
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MadWyrm
@MadWyrm
🫂❤️‍🩹 MIKAELA! I didn't know you have an account! Thank you for handling my cases and now i feel really sorry for E-mailing you directly, increasing the workload you already had. I know how this "job" feels and i'm sorry you had to go though all this. I know a lot of users can be very rough and i only wish you the best. Whenever i think about mod support, your name always comes first in my head. Kind words are way to rare on this website, that's why i'm doing my best to be positive. You matter A LOT! Thank you!!! Really thank you for all the work. 💋 If you need positiv energy, i can shoot you support-emails if you still have access to them!
3 days ago
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The Tax Creator 
@The Tax Creator
The complete inconsideration for the people moderating their site is insane..
Thank you for all your hard-work 'till now Mikale! 💜
3 days ago
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Ababababa123
@Ababababa123
I cannot thank you enough for posting this and coming out with your own experiences. This is probably the most clear explanation we’ve ever gotten of how things work behind the scenes. I hope sharing this gave you some peace of mind 💚
3 days ago
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ass_sass_sin
@ass_sass_sin
I wish I could say I’m shocked by all this, but unfortunately the general management showed very early on just how awful they were. I could excuse it at the beginning, but years went by and nothing about their behaviour improved. I’m so sorry all this happened to you, and I hope you can now enjoy your life more peacefully
3 days ago
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𝕮𝖞𝖇𝖊𝖗𝖚𝖘
@𝕮𝖞𝖇𝖊𝖗𝖚𝖘
God, I'm glad you posted this and made everything that's happening transparent. I'm sorry for all the attacks you and the moderators have received, even though you're not to blame, just for trying to do a good job. Honestly, if the developers want to override all the moderators' actions and let them be attacked, it would be better if they removed all of you and kept only themselves. But they wouldn't do that, because doing so would show how much Janitor needs you to avoid becoming a total mess.
3 days ago
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Oneeyelove
@Oneeyelove
Thank you for sharing this. It confirmed rumors I've read elsewhere. I hope positive change comes for it and that you can do well elsewhere online and IRL. 💯 😩 ✊
3 days ago
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Kenji_Ishzark
@Kenji_Ishzark
You personally handled my case when a creator used my image to make an awful depiction about me. Even if the case wasn’t able to be solved. I really appreciated the time and care you put on that instance. Even if there was nothing to be done, you acted in such a nice way that made the love you express for your role visible. You were so nice during our interactions. Thank you for keeping this space clean and for your work
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Mikale
@Mikale
Hey! I remember that situation, yes. I was honestly frustrated with that case too... I've seen so many situations like that where we clearly knew something was wrong, but we didn't have the required proof, so we were restricted and couldn't act…
3 days ago
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Kenji_Ishzark
@Kenji_Ishzark
I know you did everything you could to help, i keep that in my heart c: i wish you blessings and all the best in your future endeavors... and may you always find money in your backpockets
3 days ago
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SaraiKoor
@SaraiKoor
"One limitation was that creators above a certain follower threshold (at 666 followers, I kid you not) could no longer be banned directly."

What a strange thing to enforce or even have.....
3 days ago
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lauvnia
@lauvnia
we are no longer on friendship terms, and sincerely i dont mind nor care. but im genuinely happy you're getting off this hell hole of a site. theyve used and abused you, as well as other mods. thank you for the work youve done to help everyone, and myself. especially during the one even with the character from outlast. i hope you find peace elsewhere
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Mikale
@Mikale
Hey! Thank you so much! I feel bad that it took me so long to realize that what was happening here was wrong… Even if things didn't go as planned with Leland bots at the time, I hope they'll also realize now that something is definitely wrong
3 days ago
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noveiia
@noveiia
Hey Mikale, it’s Aviv. I know I left the team a bit ago for my own health reasons, but thank you for speaking up on this! With both teams I worked on, there was times I felt this exact same way but thought it was just me. You’ve done so much work as a site mod and even helping with server mods. Personally, I know you’ve helped me a ton. Sending you so much love rn!
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GremlinJAI
@GremlinJAI
Aviv! I hope you're doing better, lovely. 

Please take care of yourself. 

Gremlin <3
2 days ago
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noveiia
@noveiia
Hey Grem! I’m doing okay! Feel free to DM me on discord any time lovely
2 days ago
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a_court_of_corvids
@a_court_of_corvids
jesus christ i am so sorry. take some time for yourself and i hope your future is bright
3 days ago
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Diy domestic violence
@Diy domestic violence
This is absolutely insane. Did other mods quit too? I hope they all do
3 days ago
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Diy domestic violence
@Diy domestic violence
I have seen another one saying they quit so if you guys were 3 this means there is only one mod left???
3 days ago
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nvyll
@nvyll
what the actual fuck.
3 days ago
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Tantoofaaz777
@Tantoofaaz777
"we were told to ban CSAM only if it was very bad." ... I'm speechless 😐
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LavenderLungs
@LavenderLungs
Yeah like...define "good" or "okay" CSAM
3 days ago
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oneandonlyizabelle
@oneandonlyizabelle
Jaw dropped. “If it’s very bad”, it’s a fucking evil thing. What do you mean if it really bad?
2 days ago
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Tenhi
@Tenhi
here before they nuke it. this is fucked up
3 days ago
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lionsxhowl
@lionsxhowl
best save the bot and make backups.
3 days ago
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YamiSukehiro001
@YamiSukehiro001
Take care mikale, this post was kind of a eye opener and you made some really good points on this.
3 days ago
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OOAAEERR
@OOAAEERR
watch them nuke the post despite it being too late already kek
3 days ago
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L-y-r-a
@L-y-r-a
That had some mind-blowing information I never could've guessed. It's worse than I thought. I'm sorry for all you've had to go through, Mikale.
3 days ago
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cyberfae
@cyberfae
wow.
3 days ago
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Softpetal
@Softpetal
My wonderful Mikale. I love you and adore you. I am sorry for everything that has happened. I met you and became friends. You are one of the first Mods I ever met and cherished closely. Not as a mod, but as a friend and our Yu-Gi-Oh talks (shocked? No...) with all that said, you deserve happiness, love, and a break. You went through a lot, and so have other Mods. I am sorry to all creators who made a bot and watched them be removed, as others stayed because... nepotism... guidelines.... and things in this doc. No one should be harassing, making threats, or sending anything harmful to a person doing their job. We SHOULD be adults. That is terrible behaviour.
3 days ago
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Veenasaur
@Veenasaur
I'm so sorry that you've gone through this. Thank you for all of the time you've taken for this site and the community, and for all of this information, it's really important to know. Hope we can connect in better places. Take care of yourself ❤️
3 days ago
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saturnlore
@saturnlore
Thank you for coming out and sharing this. I already made my small announcement and this further proves my point that I can't align morally with this website. The minors and CSAM is disgusting, but unsurprising as I remember vaguely of a large creator who made an inappropriate minor bot and only lost their verification badge? (Correct me if I am wrong, I didn't follow the person and it was immediately deleted on reddit when mentioned months ago). Other than that, thank you for being brave and solidifying many creators, including mines, decision to leave. Take care and please be safe.
3 days ago
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Mim!kyuu
@Mim!kyuu
I know we rarely talk anymore, but I hope you can get on the path to feeling better now that you are stepping away. Holy heck I read everything and it’s really a dumpster fire. You have always been a wonderful and amazing person, and here’s to a better future! -Lappy
3 days ago
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babylonico
@babylonico
Having only 3 volunteer mods to control this big of a platform is crazy!
3 days ago
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Ofmanynames
@Ofmanynames
The csam stuff checks out because i went back and forth for weeks with mods over a bot, I even sent screenshots of how vile a bot was and then I got banned along with others and they refused to unban that account.
3 days ago
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DollieFaceRaver
@DollieFaceRaver
I’ve reported a server full of minors (the server got promoted on jai) + they let minors in nsfw channels and the mods said it was a server that wasn’t for jai or some bs excuse… 🫩

PLEASE TAKE CARE, you did not deserve to deal with any of that.
3 days ago
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DollieFaceRaver
@DollieFaceRaver
Also a girl I co owned my jai server with, said she was attracted to a 16 yo (shes 19) and they did nothing about that :)!!!
3 days ago
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Shin0sy
@Shin0sy
Stay safe gng, please take care. wish you the best
3 days ago
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Plommbom
@Plommbom
I am so sorry you and the other mods have to endure this bullshit. 

Best of luck in your future plans and adventures, wishing you all the best ❤️
3 days ago
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Rakkot
@Rakkot
Sad, but not surprising. Take care, Mikale
3 days ago
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Obscyra
@Obscyra
Oof. That was such a tough read. Reading all of that kinda makes me unsure if the site could hold for another year. Call it doomposting, but sounds like the site is doomed anyway.
3 days ago
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Gh0st_t
@Gh0st_t
Im not surprised by any of this, favoritism and mods receiving garbage treatment are pretty much standard everywhere you look hard enough. Best of luck ♡
3 days ago
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ryon
@ryon
Wow, that's a lot to take in after reading everything. No wonder the mods couldn't ban the creator I reported for being a pedo. Thanks for sharing all this, I feel like I understand some things better now. On a side note, dealing with 125,000 reports between three mods is nuts!
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BlackJack_6007
@BlackJack_6007
Who’s the creator?
3 days ago
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ryon
@ryon
I think he's retired now but it was Roykk, a guy who used to make yanderes. Full on admitted some crazy stuff but they still couldn't ban him.
3 days ago
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sennnnnri
@sennnnnri
I was suspecting over half of the things listed here, but I'm glad you made them public for people to see. It's actually a ridiculous, toxic, and outright immoral workspace. I'm sorry you had to go through that.
Can't wait for them to put more effort into burying this case than they ever did into actually making this platform a healthy place.
3 days ago
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MELANCHØLY
@MELANCHØLY
This is insane. Thank you for saying something about this. I knew that there was something rotten going on behind the scenes—not only favoritism and extremely poor guidelines—but to hear the extent of how little tools you have as moderators, a position to keep the platform safe and clean from harmful and illegal content, is absolutely abhorrent.

I've been aware of how the mods do things a certain way and then the devs pulling the rug out from under them, not only telling them that "You weren't supposed to do this" but also leaving them vulnerable to the userbase's criticism and harrassment because it all happened behind the scenes. The terrible communication and lack of updates was bad enough, but this is worse.

Reading that users are shadowbanned and not permanently removed from the platform is even worse. Although JanitorAI is said to be an 18+ platform, it's clear by your statement that it isn't actually enforced it to its fullest extent. If minors are still on this site—and can still access content, create bots privately—then it is not an adult only space. In fact, it's still harboring underage users (and illegal content). That is extremely dangerous for everyone involved.

The lack of accountability from the dev team is astounding. I've only seen someone dodge responsibility like this before and fail to protect the place that they choose to run themselves once. To see it from a group of people with so much power... well, I think I've already made my point. It's awful. Disgusting. Absolutely horrific that they neglect the one thing that should be keeping the site safe.

I can only pray that they step up and actually do something about this. If a mod themself is so dissatisfied and disturbed with what they've had to go through that they're publicly speaking out about it, then I hope it's a wakeup call.

Do something, developers. You're the ones harboring a toxic, unsafe environment for everyone on this platform.
3 days ago
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comebackjessica
@comebackjessica
it was a terrible read and confirmed things I long-suspected about the backend of this whole operation. I went through a similar thing about five jobs ago, and I can say I see you, I understand you, you're not alone. And I get it. There are good sites out there btw. I'm on one and it reminds me of what this place used to be what seems now like aeons ago
3 days ago
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ZloyPos
@ZloyPos
Man, that was a tought read, seriously. Experiencing all that should've been even tougher and honestly you're such a goat for that. You clearly cared, you clearly put effort and that what counts. Even showing it all now, telling others about it is such a right thing to do, especially with all miscommunication going on in community.
May our paths cross again in much better circumstances!
3 days ago
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Unsynn4
@Unsynn4
Thank you for speaking out. I'm sorry you had to have a very important job for a site like this be so harmful because of a simple lack of ambiguity and support. I hope you'll have a better experience moving forward! ❤️❤️
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Unsynn4
@Unsynn4
*unambiguity lmao
3 days ago
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Nojas
@Nojas
You answered me one time when I asked for... changing an email to a non-deleted one...
Thank you for the work you've put really!! And I'm sorry that all of this has happened to you, I'm genuinely wishing the best for you and may you find peace for the future!
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Mikale
@Mikale
We never had proper tools from the devs to deal with situations like this. We had to turn down a lot of requests because there was simply no way for us to handle them... :/
3 days ago
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Nojas
@Nojas
I'm not giving you the blame friend, don't you worry!! 
It's just that regardless of answer you attempted to give one and it was more than enough, instead of ignoring or discarding my question for being a silly and unecessary one. Maybe it was obvious at first for others but it wasn't for me, so I don't want you to think of a negative when I mention this ticket.
You worked with what you could, and even with what you could, it simply couldn't work. And I blame the tool and not the person using said tool!
3 days ago
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Nojas
@Nojas
But still I can imagine that you had to turn down a lot of requests after reading all of this, it's a shame but it's not your fault
Wishing you the best really.
3 days ago
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Sayuririn
@Sayuririn
dev team is really stuck on putting the cart before the horse and refuse to amend that if their lives depend on it, huh? With waves of creators leaving, now even their volunteer staff are dropping out. Reaching out to them feels like a shout into the void every time 😮‍💨

Thanks for all the work you've put in so far for this site ❤️
3 days ago
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Goldenwings
@Goldenwings
I might be slow, but does this mean you will be deleting your account? Or will it stay up? 

On a more serious note; it really sucks all this happened. I usually just lurk and use bots, I wasn’t aware that the behind the scenes are this bad. I hope everyone can find there peace including you, Mikala.
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Mikale
@Mikale
I won't delete it, but they might ban me, who knows at this point haha x)
3 days ago
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Goldenwings
@Goldenwings
I hope that doesn’t happen. That would be really shitty.
3 days ago
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Goldenwings
@Goldenwings
My dc is in my profile. Feel free to send me your username for 🥫🍳 on there. Take care Mikale. <3
3 days ago
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bandaidhime
@bandaidhime
Good luck out there, Mikale.
3 days ago
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Nicolo03
@Nicolo03
I'll miss you Mikale... Thank you for your work ! I hope we can still reach out over Discord !
3 days ago
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johnnieboy
@johnnieboy
We stand with you Mikale. Thank you for giving those of us a voice who never got the courage to ❤️

You are loved, and I'm glad you're out of that hell hole.
3 days ago
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FatCatSupreme
@FatCatSupreme
I use to love this site so much, but the more I see people posting about what's really going on, this being the most concise one I've seen, ever, I just can't view it in the same light. I still love a lot of the bots here, and some of the creators and users are truly lovely, but it's just getting more and more bleak. Thank you so much for sharing this, for being transparent and for all you've done. I'm sorry you had to put up with all that you went through, and I truly hope you can find peace and a creative outlet elsewhere, if that's what you choose to do.
3 days ago
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MoriK
@MoriK
Noo mikale :( i hope you stay with us at least!
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ShaelynDaine
@ShaelynDaine
Jumping in to second Mori's sentiment. I hope you stay with us, regardless. Take care of yourself, Mikale. You are brilliant and always a joy to talk to. Thank you for everything! 💛
3 days ago
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Lugubrious
@Lugubrious
I loved your bots, thank you for your work and brilliance! Take care of yourself <3
3 days ago
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EverNever
@EverNever
Thank you for these clear words and I am sorry you needed to go through this. This is exactly the reason why I left this platform, and I found my home somewhere else. Take care of yourself 💜
3 days ago
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Rowen_YOUR_Beloveded
@Rowen_YOUR_Beloveded
You have done so much work and put up with so much. Even if your stepping back the efforts you put in can never be discredited. Thank you ‼️ and stay safe.
3 days ago
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sa4912n
@sa4912n
reading this made my brain confused in a "why are they like this" and a "what the actual fuck" way even though i've seen some cc's that i follow make announcement bots correlating to jai related issues like what you talked about. even then, you'd think devs and stuff would be serious about it (like they should be) instead of being barely bare minimum with their "efforts." so much for everyone on here being "adults" lelelelel

but bye bye mikale we'll miss ya 🫂💌
3 days ago
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Shana Chipfox
@Shana Chipfox
I respect everything you have done for this website even when people were total grrr's. Thank you for being part of JanitorAI, I hope you find something that will bring you joy and fulfillment in the near future ❤️ 🫂. You did not deserve the harassment and stress you went through, nobody does.
3 days ago
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siggelies
@siggelies
I love you darling, good luck🥺
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